According to a report by France's La Tribune cited by Reuters, General Motors and Peugeot are discussing the possibility of selling PSA Peugeot-Citroën commercial vans in the US through The General's dealership network. While specific models and what brand they may sell under stateside are not immediately clear, the move isn't entirely out of the blue, particularly since GM owns seven percent of the French automaker.

Peugeot and GM already have a joint-venture agreement to ease costs associated with vehicle development and procuring parts, and while the progress of the arrangement has been inhibited some by Europe's difficult economy, the two automakers are looking to expand the relationship. With sales in the dumpster, Peugeot's long-term prospects have looked particularly shaky as of late, and GM could use a modern commercial van lineup to better compete with North America's suddenly modern and Euro-fied competition. Mercedes-Benz kicked off the high-roof trend with its Sprinter, and for 2014, Ford is following with its Transit van (joining its smaller Transit Connect sibling), while Chrysler is leveraging its relationship with Fiat to rebrand the Ducato range of vans as Ram Promaster models.

Peugeot already has a full line of commercial van solutions in its stable, from its compact Partner and Bipper models to the larger Expert and Boxer models, which are available in a variety of cargo and people-carrying configurations.

GM, meanwhile, has been left with its elderly Chevrolet Express and GMC Savana range, though it did recently strike a deal with Nissan for a Bowtie'd version of the Japanese automaker's NV200 small cargo van, dubbed City Express.


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      mike
      • 1 Year Ago
      The Fiat Ducato is the same thing as Peugeot Boxer and the Citroen Relay...they are all the same exact van and were co-developed between PSA and Fiat. It would be funny to see GM and Chrysler competing with products that are mechanically and visually identical.
        Avinash Machado
        • 1 Year Ago
        @mike
        Great sibling rivalry.
          aatbloke1967
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Avinash Machado
          Common practice in Europe with commercial vans. The rivalry doesn't matter because many companies are tied to fleet management companies for their vehicles.
      Georg
      • 1 Year Ago
      GM´s European Opel Movano ... a Mercedes Sprinter class commercial vehicle http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2012/11/cars/2010_Opel_Movano-1.jpg (sold as Renault Master ans Nissan NV400) GM´s european Opel Vivaro ... a VW bus class commercial vehicle http://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/2011-opel-vivaro/2011-opel-vivaro-6.jpg (sold as Renault Trafic and Nissan Primastar)
      LXbuilder
      • 1 Year Ago
      These vans are built by Fiat and used by PSA as Peugeot and Citreon. Ram has already beat the General to the punch as the Ram Promaster is about to show up all across North America. http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/2014/ram_promaster/#promaster/bright_white/mono
      Georg
      • 1 Year Ago
      silly question why should they sell PSA vans in the USA if they are teamed up with Renault since a long time. The GM factory in the UK builds Vans for GM and Renault
        Dean Hammond
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Georg
        acess to a diesel engine perhaps?..
          Georg
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Dean Hammond
          they sell the Vans with diesel engines and GM has with Opel a brand that offers a wide range of diesel engines since 1972...
      zoom_zoom_zoom
      • 1 Year Ago
      Looks like Government Motors is quickly becoming an IMPORTER of all things. Buicks from Germany, Chevrolets from Australia and Korea . . .
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          Justin Campanale
          • 1 Year Ago
          Aaron, I've seen Gua comment, and this guy isn't him.
          FuelToTheFire
          • 1 Year Ago
          Tickle me, Elmo.
          zoom_zoom_zoom
          • 1 Year Ago
          When the GOVERNMENT owns the Stock, they become GOVERNMENT MOTORS. When Barrack Obama told what dealerships could or could NOT sell GM products. It became Government Motors. When the Government ignored the bankruptcy laws and kicked the creditors to the curb, Delphi non-union workers to the curb, and handed over ownership to the UAW, they became Government Motors. They will forever be Government Motors. I will forever refuse to support Government Motots. Now log in and out and downvote away.
          zoom_zoom_zoom
          • 1 Year Ago
          Dang yomamanomo, you only gave me a -8 in 17 minutes.
          zoom_zoom_zoom
          • 1 Year Ago
          Damn yomama, you sure are being busy, now a -12 on the first post, and a -7 in just a few minutes on my next. I'll check back in a few to see how many more accounts you use.
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          Justin Campanale
          • 1 Year Ago
          Aaron, I seriously doubt this guy is Gua. Gua is an ultra-annoying troll who's always spouting off nonsense about China and Geely and whatnot. Also known under the names "Yang Xi Gua" and "fat kid". This guy is a a Honda employee, who seems to patrol all the Honda articles and downvote any anti-Honda comments. He formerly went by the names "invisibleblog","Mary Keana" "none", and "__I__". He now goes by the names "mary.keana", "marykeana2" , "zoom_zoon_zoom", "luigi.tony", "aaromn_mt" , "holy.smokes", "scion_tc"
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      Apex
      • 1 Year Ago
      Wow, what an insightful and Bull Shite article. The Boxer IS a Fiat Ducato, which IS the RAM Promaster here. Kind of unlikely that Chevy/GMC will sell the exact same model. GM would realistically have to have a JV with Chrysler as they are starting to build the Promaster (Ducato) in Mexico along side the RAM HD's. As for the small vans, they already have the Nissan Variant confirmed for NA so really the whole Peugeot JV is a waste of time.
        johnnythemoney
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Apex
        Thank you Apex, I was about to go apesh*t crazy. To complete your post, the whole PSA commercial line up is composed of rebranded FIAT Professionals vehicles. The brown van is called Scudo iirc, and the smaller one is the Qubo (nice little funky box, much more spartan the a Soul but very roomier). It was part of the previous agreement between PSA and FGA. PSA got these commercial vehicles, and FIAT got their consumer vans (Citroen C8, Peugeot 807, Fiat Ulysse and Lancia Phedra). Of course FIAT dropped the ball as soon as they got the Voyager from Chrysler. Even if it's a but too large for Europe, the French vans were getting pretty old (introduced in 2002).
        Chris Paukert
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Apex
        Apex, Thanks for your comment. In the interest of clarity, I never suggested (nor have I heard) that GM will simply start importing Peugeot's existing line of vans, which, as you point out, are all but identical to the Fiat (and thus the Ram Promaster) offerings. Having said that, I wouldn't rule it out – as I pointed out, GM has already decided to rebadge an existing US product, the Nissan NV200, for Chevrolet, and it could conceivably do it again provided Peugeot isn't violating the terms of its agreement with Fiat (or Ram) in doing so. What's perhaps more likely, however, is an expansion of the GM/Pug vehicle development JV to build a new line of vans together. However, that presumes the Peugeot weathers its current economic crisis intact.
          Apex
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Chris Paukert
          Also to the point of re-branding a re-branded Peugeot, that is complete nonsense. Forget about the fact that the vehicle is the same, how could GM be competitive with a EU built van by Fiat, shipped to NA, with a duty and currency premium? vs Chrysler building them in a low cost country (Mexico) and located in NA already? Simple economics there that this is a pipe dream.
        scooter
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Apex
        I thought it looked awfully familiar.
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        Matt C
        • 1 Year Ago
        Hahahahaha. This made me laugh out loud. Yeah it's not winning any prizes for looks.
      ccweems
      • 1 Year Ago
      These vans (1900kg payload) are available in the UK with a 6M transmission, 3.0L 4 cylinder, 177hp engine and A/C for about $30,000. In this form they get about 25mpg (US not imperial) while smaller vans make due with a smaller engine and get about 32mpg. Peugeot doesn’t sell these trucks with automatic transmissions or 6 cylinder engines in Europe. As they are they handle city and highway traffic to the satisfaction of thousands of business owners. Assuming that these diesels can be made to pass US emissions why not bring them over in the time tested configuration sold in Europe and have a substantially more economical offering than MB or Ford? In the interim they can try to find a fuel guzzling 6 cylinder and an expensive automatic transmission to shoehorn into an engine compartment never intended for either and then match the mpg numbers of the competition. Frankly I'm tired of witnessing vehicles of all kinds driving in Europe at 85mph over hill and dale without a problem powered with engines of almost half the horsepower of similar vehicles sold in the states. Where do we get the impression that US driving conditions demand so much horsepower? In 1982 the Z-28 with the optional high power V8 produced a prodigious 165hp and at the time we thought that was high performance. A part from the high temperatures experienced in the Southwest I can't think of any driving conditions in the US that aren't matched or exceeded by those in Europe. Returning to a time when 0-60mph in less than 10 seconds was considered quick and cars turning 12 second quarter miles had parachutes on the back would do us all good.
        ckm
        • 1 Year Ago
        @ccweems
        Four things make the US market very different than Europe: 1. Huge distances - no one in Europe drives 500 miles to go somewhere for the weekend and I've driven that in one day just going from client meeting to client meeting... This is also relevant in terms of population density and the new-ness of our cities (e.g. wider streets, more spread out) 2. Very wide variety of climates, from hottest in the world (Death Valley) to some of the coldest (e.g. 30 below in northern Maine, never mind Alaska). 3. No company cars - Europe, due to tax regulations, has a very strong company car culture, which is pretty much non-existant here, so whole segments of cars don't exist. 4. Larger families - Americans (on average) have more kids that Europeans and they also take much more stuff with them on trips, often including things like boats & jetskis. This requires a much different set of vehicles, which explains why SUVs (and minivans before them) are so popular, even if they are only used at full capacity once or twice a year. Besides, it's not all a one-way street. I was at my mom's farm (in Europe) last year wishing that there was such a thing as a pickup truck.... And also wondered why sh*tty low-end European cars (I'm looking at you Peugot/Renault/Citroen/Fiat) were so expensive, even used...
          aatbloke1967
          • 1 Year Ago
          @ckm
          Geography has little to do with it. In Europe, many cars and light commercials perform similar annual mileages as in the States; in the UK an average annual mileage is roundly considered to be 12,000. Many HGVs and a good number of light commercials in Europe also carry out work between different countries. As for climate variety, that's also a ridiculous argument; if yo live in northern Sweden, chances are you're not going to drive very often to Portugal. Same applies for someone in Alaska who dreams of Death Valley consistently.
          Georg
          • 1 Year Ago
          @ckm
          Los Angeles to New York 2799miles Lissabon (Portugal) west Europe to Moscow east Europe 2867miles (thats not even close to be longest possible east/west distance... from the Atlantic coast in Portugal to the Ural mountains is 6000km 3730miles talking about distance...
          Robert Ryan
          • 1 Year Ago
          @ckm
          These are used in Australia as well we have : (1) Huge distances, more than the US as far as driving goes. Europe has some sizeable distances as well i.e coming from somewhere in Russia to Spain is not a short jog either. (2) Ditto as far as climates got for Australia and Europe. (3) Varies some company cars and private ownership (4) You will find both Europe and Australia pull a lot of "stuff" depends on the individual. Vans instead of SUV's in Europe, SUV's here. (5) Pickup trucks are not a bright idea in Europe. The weather and stealing make it hard to justify one in Europe. Vans and Cab Chassis variants of Vans are much more common.
      q1ford
      • 1 Year Ago
      THATS WHAT WE GET FOR THE GOVERNMENT BAIL OUT, ANOTHER FORIGN PRODUCT. FORD IS COMING OUT WITH A ALL NEW TRANSIT VAN THAT WILL BE BUILT IN KANSAS CITY PLANT. NO GOVERNMENT BAIL OUT. GO FORD.
      collabplan
      • 1 Year Ago
      GM has no shame....seriously.
        Robert Meissner
        • 1 Year Ago
        @collabplan
        by the way...Toyota just rebadged the Peugeot Expert and sells it now in Europe as the all new ProAce http://www.autozeitung.de/sites/default/files/images/bildergalerie/2013/07/Toyota-Proace-2013-01.jpg
      Mike Pulsifer
      • 1 Year Ago
      Bring them over as Peugeots... ...and bring some more Peugeots over here while you're at it!
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        @Mike Pulsifer
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          tegdesign
          • 1 Year Ago
          They don't need a new and separate dealer network just because the truck has a different logo on the front. That's stupid. Hang a lighted logo on the building and call it good.
          Mike Pulsifer
          • 1 Year Ago
          FIAT's doing a good job with it.
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