On the surface, there's very little that the Ford Fiesta ST and Toyota GT86 (or the Scion FR-S that is sold in the US, or the largely similar Subaru BRZ) share in common. One is a hatchback with power coming from a turbocharged engine routed to the front wheels. The other is a coupe with power coming from a naturally aspirated four-cylinder boxer engine routed to the rear wheels.

Thing is, both of them are reasonably priced performance cars aimed at a similar segment of the automotive marketplace, so a comparison isn't out of the question. It is with all of this in mind that we direct you to the video below, in which the blokes from Evo pit the two manic little machines against one another on a race track. The result? Well, it can be summed up this way: Fast versus fun.

See how the track battle goes down in the video below.


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      Master Austin
      • 2 Years Ago
      What I did come away with is being impressed that for a normal car like the Fiesta was given the ST treatment and turn it into a pretty capable and amazing sporty car. I'm not a fan of FWD but I do give credit where it's due. As for the 86, like the fact it's RWD and more fun to drive, but it was BUILT to do just that, so I'm not as impressed by it as I am with the Fiesta.
      Ross
      • 2 Years Ago
      Was this the same magazine that when they did their first review of the gt86 said all sorts of things like how unbalanced the car was, it was scary to drive, the transmission and steering sucked, etc? Pretty sure it was. I'm also pretty sure they claimed the car was so unbalanced that it wouldn't stop under steering.
      Hazdaz
      • 2 Years Ago
      Its a shame that at least one of the twins didn't get turned into a hatchback. Would have really helped differentiate them and increase practicality by quite a bit.
      domingorobusto
      • 2 Years Ago
      So the car with a better power to weight ratio, better tires, and very capable handling was faster than a car with better handling but a worse power to weight ratio and tires. Surprise...? But an enjoyable comparo none the less. I really like both of these cars, but they're obviously targeted for different purposes. The Fiesta is significantly cheaper, more practical, and faster (stock for stock), simply because it is a highly modified people pusher. The 86 is by design far and away the more inherently capable vehicle and it's ultimate limits are a ton higher after light mods, but it's more expensive and less practical because of that inherent (read: expensive) capability. So things played out as everyone expected. Choose which suits your specific needs and sensibilities and have fun, because either is an awesome little rocket.
      Termin8
      • 2 Years Ago
      Seems to me that better tires would pretty much make the Toyota perfect. Everybody whines about more power regardless of whether it's really needed or not. It's kind of a reaction that almost every bench-racer just can't help.
      NamorF-Pro
      • 2 Years Ago
      The GT86 is meant for fun ONLY. It's not a geek's car but an enthusiast's one! It's not about the numbers. Numbers aren't fun unless you're some kind of a nerd. The Fiesta is a great little car but I would never take it over the Toyota, ever.
      regytra
      • 2 Years Ago
      Interesting, here is a video comparison: Ford Focus ST vs Subaru BRZ. Ford Focus 1:29.27 Subaru BRZ 1:30.32 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3oapP8qzehI#t=497s
      • 2 Years Ago
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        m_2012
        • 2 Years Ago
        You got voted down by every FWD kid in here. I gave ya a big RWD thumbs up. FWD is for new drivers, once you master a RWD car you will never go back.
          Dean Hammond
          • 2 Years Ago
          @m_2012
          Ive had numerous of both, yes they drive differently, but BOTH can be an absolute blast....so, should we throw SEGWAYS and Motorcycles into the mix?....
        • 2 Years Ago
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      zoomy
      • 2 Years Ago
      Anyone that picks the Fiesta over the Toyota based on this idiotic comparison needs to have their head examined.
        rem
        • 2 Years Ago
        @zoomy
        Can I pick the Fiesta over the Toyota because it has a bigger, more accessible back seat, more cargo room, much better fuel economy (compared to the manual Toyotbaru), costs less, is usable in winter climates and is still a ton of fun to drive?
          A_Guy
          • 2 Years Ago
          @rem
          @zoomzoomzoom: Mini-vans don't "get much better fuel economy" or cost less.
          rem
          • 2 Years Ago
          @rem
          Eh, if I want a fun RWD car, I'm not all that interested in fuel economy, reliability or depreciation. I'd probably get an S2000, RX8, E36 M3, Boxster S, etc... If I want something as practical and compromised as a BRZ, I think adding slightly more compromise and getting a much more practical Fiesta ST makes a lot more sense. It's much more justifiable as a DD, and the weekend cars will always be less compromised than the Toyobaru anyway.
      Frisky_Dingo
      • 2 Years Ago
      FWD hot hatch vs RWD sports car?? I got no problem with it. It was an entertaining watch, and while I can't speak for the Fiesta, the Focus ST is wildly fun to drive. As is the FR-S. They go about it in separate ways, but the end result is the same- a huge smile you can't wipe off your face. People need to stop hating and be open-minded. Not every car is built with *you* in mind. All the cars that contend in this general segment are solid, and you can't really go wrong with any of them.
      • 2 Years Ago
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        m_2012
        • 2 Years Ago
        See the name, vote down, move on. As usual, nothing coherent or even close to a meaningful thought. Professional reviewers love both cars. You are obviously stuck in the crowd that cant get past "its only got 200HP". As soon as you say that, your comments are meaningless.
        Scooter
        • 2 Years Ago
        I have to agree that the BRZ/FRS is mostly hype for a chunky price tag of nearly $30,000 and more after financing. You could get a Honda Accord V6 coupe that will leave most cars in the dust (5 second-ish car) and give you tons more features for the money.
          m_2012
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Scooter
          Until fun needs to come into play. What is so fun about being able to go into a corner faster, especially if the car cant handle it. Mash the pedal for 7 seconds in an Accord, and now the car is useless for anything but straight line - it cant turn at that speed, the brakes would turn to dust soon, etc. Some people just miss the point of a drivers car and need to continue to buy minivans.
          72CJ5driver
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Scooter
          ^ totally misses the point.
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Scooter
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          kcroc10077
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Scooter
          Then that's what you should buy. If this doesn't float your boat there's no reason to cast aspersions. Choice is good and I'm sure you'll find something suitable.
        Bryant Keith
        • 2 Years Ago
        So they made a bad car by putting fun tires on it? I'm sorry but if track precision is all your looking for I'm pretty sure you can just change the tires. I've drove both these cars and I can guarantee without the shadow of a doubt that the Subaru BRZ is so much more fun to drive.
        • 2 Years Ago
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      _M7_
      • 2 Years Ago
      stupid video...any one who really knows will take the BRZ anytime
        Deslock
        • 2 Years Ago
        @_M7_
        I chose the BRZ and if anything were to happen to it, I'd get another one. That written, I don't agree with your blanket statement. Every car is a compromise, and some people need the additional utility that a 4 door hatch provides. That written, it's also noteworthy that the BRZ is more practical than some others (that responded to you) gave it credit for: Cayman wrote, "Unless you need to carry more than 2 people occasionally." and ThomasP wrote, "Unless anyone has a family." I switched from a Miata to a BRZ specifically because I have a family and need to carry more than 2 people. I drive my two kids around at least a couple times per week in my BRZ, and I even have 4 people in the car occasionally. MotionDesigner wrote, "Even if you live in a region where it rains often and snows every winter?" Yes. I put snow tires on my BRZ and drive it all winter, taking it out in every storm because it's so much fun in the snow. BTW, I found the BRZ to be a blast on the track. As Jeremy Clarkson said, "He who shall be last, shall be sideways and smiling". I haven't driven the Fiesta ST, but in general I'll take the more fun RWD car that's 99% as fast around the track as a grippier FWD car (if I was going to get serious about track days, I'd want different tires anyway).
        ThomasP
        • 2 Years Ago
        @_M7_
        Unless anyone has a family.
        Cayman
        • 2 Years Ago
        @_M7_
        Unless you need to carry more than 2 people occasionally.
        MotionDesigner
        • 2 Years Ago
        @_M7_
        Anytime? Even if you live in a region where it rains often and snows every winter?
          • 2 Years Ago
          @MotionDesigner
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        • 2 Years Ago
        @_M7_
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