The US Supreme Court has effectively rejected an effort to block sales of gasoline blended with 15-percent ethanol content (E15), refusing to hear a lawsuit and leaving in place an earlier ruling by a federal appeals court that confirms the fuel is legal to sell.

The attempt to block E15 sales was spearheaded by the American Petroleum Institute – a primary lobbying group for the oil industry –­ that claims E15 may damage aging cars and motorcycles and increase the price of certain foodstuffs. Bob Greco, a senior official with API, is reported by USA Today as having said, "The ever-increasing ethanol mandate has become unsustainable, causing a looming crisis for gasoline consumers. We're at the point where refiners are being pressured to put unsafe levels of ethanol in gasoline, which could damage vehicles, harm consumers and wreak havoc on our economy."

Of course, supporters of ethanol and E15 believe that the fuel can offer a cheaper alternative to non-blended gasoline, which reduces greenhouse gas emissions and lowers US dependence on foreign oil imports. E15 proponents and the Department of Energy have called into question the research that seeks to show a link between maintenance issues in pre-2001 vehicles and ethanol, as well.

For its part, the Environmental Protection Agency has reiterated that the potential sale of E15 does not indicate a government mandate to buy the fuel. USA Today cites Christopher Grundler from the EPA Director's Office of Transportation and Air Quality as saying, "The government is not saying 'go ahead' and put E15 in all cars. The government is saying this is legal fuel to sell if the market demands it and there are people who wish to sell it."

Should E15 be legal to sell and buy in the US?
Yes 3836 (34.5%)
No 6039 (54.4%)
I'm not sure 1236 (11.1%)


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      EZEE
      • 2 Years Ago
      What the HELL? 'Should E15 be legal....?' I swear all hope is lost for this nation. To even askif it should. It isn't up to us. Let the gas stations sell it, not sell it, sell blender pumps. By what right do we have to tell someone if this shold be legal or not? It should not be forced on us, nor should it be banned. Listen to me clearly: This is the United States of America. Are we a free nation or not. This is not like legalizing murder, this is simply a product. And for people to say that it should not be legal to, at least BY CHOICE sell something is wrong wrong wrong. Figure out what freedom and liberty mean. No, the marina boat pumps should not have this stuff, as that is a bad application. I swear you people make me sick.
        m_2012
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        It is a regulated product with known health issues and environmental issues. To say the stations can sell whatever they want might be a little far reaching. They would still be selling leaded gasoline if that were the case. This is not land of the free. Those days are gone. You will buy what is regulated to you.
          EZEE
          • 2 Years Ago
          @m_2012
          I am not saying gas stations sell leaded fuel, or plutonium, but ethanol is alcohol, gasoline has known environmental issues. And diesel? Really? Look, personally, I won't buy it - especially for my boat. But it isn't up to me to say what a person can buy. Smoke, do drugs, drink alcohol, put that alcohol in your car...not up to me. But really...known environmental issues....deep water horizon....Valdez.... And I am a radical right wing extremist saying this! But saying 'environmental issues' - I can marine the oil companies would be making shushing gestures and noises, with, 'ixnay on the nvironmental-tay sues-iay"
        2 wheeled menace
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        Ezee, as a libertarian, almost every single thing i read about politics makes me sick. Totally know what you mean. This country has became what it feared most. The taxes are getting high. We have a tyrannical government. We have an economy that is slowly failing. Our constitution continues to be whittled down whether we get republicans or democrats in office. Voting is a farce. An economic system that is becoming more and more state-controlled hinders innovation and evolution in the market. Corruption is rampant to the point where it is no longer labeled corruption, but business as usual. And we are here arguing whether something should be BANNED or MANDATED, lol. How much longer will the public either not see the problems, or just put up with them, thinking that this is still the best country to live in?
        paqza
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        Not how it works, chief.
        Allch Chcar
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        Why is no even an option? Would the same people that voted no vote to ban E85? There is no mandate for E15 nor is there one for E85. They can't mandate it. The case was dismissed people. Dismissed!
      knightrider_6
      • 2 Years Ago
      At a time when we are suffering from obesity epidemic, when 2 out of 3 Americans are overweight or obese, this is not a bad idea. But first we need to cut all corn subsidy. I'm sure Big Corn can survive without a trillion dollar handout.
        • 2 Years Ago
        @knightrider_6
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          m_2012
          • 2 Years Ago
          The subsidies do not keep the prices down, they have only attributed to record profits. In fact, corn subsidies have kept prices UP since growers dont need to grow as much to make money. Why grow when you can cash the check instead?
          Aaron Dingfield
          • 2 Years Ago
          The corn subsidies pre-existed the use of corn for various and sundry purposes. It was specifically in order to take advantage of federal corn subsidies that companies developed and began to produce HFC, corn-based ethanol, animal feeds, etc. If you take away the subsidies, the cost to produce these products will increase, fewer people will purchase them in favor of other, cheaper alternatives. In short order there will be a large surplus of corn, and the prices will drop. Ultimately, corn will likely be retained for feed and maybe even HFC, but I suspect corn-based ethanol will largely disappear (ethanol currently trades at roughly $0.70/gallon with approximately $0.45/gallon subsidies).
          raktmn
          • 2 Years Ago
          So you are against allowing grocery stores to sell sodas and candy (and practically everything else they sell) that contains corn syrup, or other corn products, because the gov't subsidizes corn crops? The same with all meat products that are fed with subsidized corn feed? I'm trying to figure out the logic of wanting to ban E15 because it contains 5% more corn, when you don't object to grocery stores selling stuff that is up to 100% corn.
          Allch Chcar
          • 2 Years Ago
          I just imagined the federal government as a colossal squid. Thanks johnbravo6.
          paqza
          • 2 Years Ago
          Ready to pay more to eat real food. Hell, I already do it.
      stonehunte
      • 2 Years Ago
      I wouldn't mind this as much if they also required a dedicated E0 pump at every gas station. I'm tired of ethanol effing up the carbs on my small engines.
        Greg
        • 2 Years Ago
        @stonehunte
        E0 isn't available anywhere within 400 mi of my home. There is exactly zero chance that E0 would ever be a universal option.
      RobbieAG
      • 2 Years Ago
      I don't mind it being legal to sell as long as it's not mandated. Ethanol free gasoline should also be widely available for those who don't want to ruin their older cars, motorcycles, and yard equipment.
      threefortyduster
      • 2 Years Ago
      So I wonder what one is supposed to do if they drive a car older than 2001? Not that it affects me directly, but it affects millions of Americans.
        raktmn
        • 2 Years Ago
        @threefortyduster
        There is no E15 mandate, and all stations that sell E15 must by law also sell either E0 or E10. So folks with older cars, and motorcycles, and folks with small engines will continue to use whatever fuel their state has right now. There is no change in what fuel they use.
          raktmn
          • 2 Years Ago
          @raktmn
          There is no such thing as an E15 tank. Gas stations have an E10 tank (or E0 tank) and an E85 tank, and they blend for E15 at the pump.
          Greg
          • 2 Years Ago
          @raktmn
          Yeah, that requirement to also sell E0 or E10 is really going to last. Station owners will complain that the requirement is a burden to them, and keeping will drive them out of business. Then, it will be relaxed and E15 will be the new E10, i.e., the only thing available.
          Israel Isassi
          • 2 Years Ago
          @raktmn
          I can see gas stations deciding that yes they sell all 3 options, but their E0 and E10 tanks are empty most of the time.
      Todd Fleming
      • 2 Years Ago
      they can sell it but you better force the insurance companies to cover said problems that come along with it.
        Allch Chcar
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Todd Fleming
        That's not necessary. If it's covered under warranty it may lead to a recall. But only if there are enough issues to warrant one. Only 2013+ Fords and 2012+ GMs are warrantied for E15. Unfortunately that's the one thing the EPA didn't test enough, automaker's opinions. Bad move EPA.
      ammca66564
      • 2 Years Ago
      At very least E15 had better be properly labeled so that I can avoid putting in my 1999 car. At present they never tell you how much ethanol is in your gas - the signs always just say "there may be some corn likker in your fuel, we aren't telling you how much, ho hum." Now that the stuff is actually moving into potentially harmful territory, we need actual numbers.
        raktmn
        • 2 Years Ago
        @ammca66564
        You are in luck, that has been taken care of. All E15 pumps must be clearly marked. There are a number of articles on autobloggreen showing what the labels must say. Any fuel sold with ethanol must either have the E15 required labels, the E85 required labels, or contain 10% or less ethanol.
        Rybak
        • 2 Years Ago
        @ammca66564
        In Boston and Tampa I see signs on distributors that state "May contain up to 10% Ethanol"...
      • 2 Years Ago
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      knightrider_6
      • 2 Years Ago
      If E85 is cheaper than E10, people will use it. This is no different that the checked baggage fee charged by airlines. Everybody wants to buy the cheapest ticket, but complains when free baggage is not included in the price of ticket.
        EVnerdGene
        • 2 Years Ago
        @knightrider_6
        What if you get 30% lower gas mileage from your most excellent E-85 purchase? Would you still be so enthused?
          m_2012
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EVnerdGene
          True, but gas mileage goes down considerably. Plus no matter the design, E85 is not good for fuel system parts. I use just enough E85 to run at the track, then get that $hit out of there. Even at that rate, I am already on high pressure fuel pump #3 for squeaking seals.
          AcidTonic
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EVnerdGene
          What if you learn that E85 is basically 105 octane and allows for more ignition timing before detonation meaning you can gain horsepower and torque all over the rev range? Still *not* enthused? E85 is a 40hp to the wheel upgrade for my car..... (tuner 2.0 turbo)
          m_2012
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EVnerdGene
          damn you comment system.
      RioRyan
      • 2 Years Ago
      What's with the minimum 4 gallons?? My motorcycle tank doesn't even hold that much. I've filled up within 1 gallon. Is that illegal in the US!?
        raktmn
        • 2 Years Ago
        @RioRyan
        The 4 gallon minimum is for blender pumps only. Every gas station that has one of these is also required under the E15 rules to have a non-blender pump that is dedicated to dispensing just E0 or E10. You can fill up with as little as you want at the non-blender pump that the gas station must have as a condition of having a blender pump.
      Andre Lavoie
      • 2 Years Ago
      Ah yes the American Petroleum Institute. I'm sure their analysis isn't biased, nope..............
        IBx27
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Andre Lavoie
        They run the refineries, they know the costs and the corrosiveness of their products. If they say this gasoline will destroy old and small engines, which has been supported by numerous other sources, do you honestly think the EPA or the SC knows better than them? With all their nonexistent extensive experience in petroleum products?
          EZEE
          • 2 Years Ago
          @IBx27
          Hey Rak! Below I had a rant about the fact that any 'E' should be optional - up to the gas station owner. Someone responded with, "no, because there are known environmental issues with Ethanol." He said this...when we are looking at gasoline....and he is concerned about environmental issues with Ethanol. I had to restrain myself... :D I so wish he would have said that to you. Your insults can be so creative....
        travisjb
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Andre Lavoie
        interesting how comments are being voted on - this forum is full of industry folks, including me my 2 cents, fuel blends should be up to the people... having more choices serves us
        Allch Chcar
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Andre Lavoie
        Why were you downvoted? Sarcasm?
      WILLIAM
      • 2 Years Ago
      Thousands of lawn mower, trimmer and leaf blower engines have been screwed up by ethanol. But let's not let that get in the way of DC Pork going to the corn industry.
        raktmn
        • 2 Years Ago
        @WILLIAM
        For the ABG crowd that this story is cross posted to (AB regulars can stop reading here) -- There are better and better battery electric alternatives for many small gas motor tools and mowers. If you actually care about green issues, swapping out an electric mower for a gas mower is probably about as big a bang for your green buck as you can get. Gas mowers are very bad polluters per gallon of gas burned compared to modern gas cars.
        carney373
        • 2 Years Ago
        @WILLIAM
        I'd rather fund the corn industry than the terrorists. It wasn't corn money that radicalized, recruited, and trained the 9/11 hijackers. Get your priorities straight. And if the weed whacker industry wants to control our energy policy and geo-strategy, wants to keep us locked in to jihad juice rather than spend a few extra bucks per unit, too bad. They survived the transition to unleaded just fine, they'll survive this. Time to stop whining and sniveling and do what's right for America.
        paulwesterberg
        • 2 Years Ago
        @WILLIAM
        Thousands of lawn mower, trimmer and leaf blower engines are crap made in china junk. They fail if you look at them sideways regardless of what type of fuel you try to burn.
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