These cars are art, complete with imperfections that end up bringing them closer to the physical world.

While games like The Crew and DriveClub certainly had us drooling over the possibilities of next-generation gaming systems, it wasn't until we got up close and personal with the upcoming Forza Motorsport 5 that we realized just what will be possible in a racing simulator. After a brief demo play of the new Forza, as well as a in-depth look at the title from some enthusiastic Turn 10 developers, we're more amped than ever to play the game for real.

To start with, the graphics in Forza 5 are nothing short of mind-blowing; the game-play presentation is far and away the best we've ever seen, and the power of the Xbox One is brought fully to bear in the "Forzavista" mode. Fans of the franchise will remember that Forzavista allows one to walk around and virtually sit in a vehicle; in previous instances, this lavish presentation was only available for a select group of vehicles, but in Forza 5 it'll be on tap for every car. ("Every car" will also include open-wheel racecars, we're told, for the first time in the history of the franchise.)

The expansion of Forzavista has happened, without much doubt, as a reflection of the pride of workmanship from the dev team. Said team has used a concept called "physically based materials" to render details of vehicles that we've never seen in video games to date. Slight orange peel in body paint, grooves on brake rotors, even realistic machined edges on the spokes of wheels all stand up to close inspection. These cars are art, complete with imperfections that end up bringing them closer to the physical world. Scroll down to keep reading and see what we mean.

Driveatar is a cloud-based computer learning and modeling system that allows Forza to do away with traditional AI completely.

Perhaps even more mind-boggling than the detailed modeling of vehicles is the way in which Forza's new "Driveatar" (a portmanteau of "driver" and "avatar") works. Essentially, this is a cloud-based computer learning and modeling system that allows Forza to do away with traditional AI completely. Whenever a player races in Forza 5, the data from that race is uploaded automatically to the cloud. Each driver's style and racing choices (do you like to block or drive casually, apex early or late, etc.) is recorded. With a model of each Forza 5 player thusly recorded, the system turns each individual Driveatar into a racer for opponents across the world. So, instead of racing some finite number of responses and styles, represented by a traditionally programmed "bot," each race in Forza is essentially being run against the quirks and uncertainties of human opponents – even if those opponents happen not to be playing just then. It's radical, nearly creepy stuff that makes sense of Xbox One's "always online" functionality.

The four years spent developing Forza Motorsport 5 has been time well spent.

While we were only on track with this limited Forza 5 demo for one lap in the monstrous McLaren P1, and while the Turn 10 guys admitted that the physics model isn't 100-percent baked right now, we are nevertheless stoked about the driving experience. The team has been working with a super-advanced research lab called Calspan to lock-in true-to-life mechanical modeling that hasn't existed before this. Tire wear, specifically, is both elemental to the feel of a car on the road over time, and particularly challenging to recreate accurately in-game. This is largely because sort of "normal" game events – ridiculously high levels of slip angle, for instance – happen outside the normal parameters of racing and driving, and have therefore never been accurately modeled by groups at performance tire companies. The end result of all of this work is an epic experience in terms of grip under load, as well as a stronger feeling of real mass for a vehicle than we've ever had before.

The four years spent developing Forza Motorsport 5 has been time well spent, if our first go-round is any indication. Scroll down for a look at some gameplay video, and stay tuned for further news of the game as we have it.




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      sp33dklz
      • 1 Year Ago
      As a huge xbox fan, and current 360 owner, I couldn't be more disappointed with MS's choice with the xbox one to make the games untradeabel. Huge failure. I'll pass on this generation.
        spam
        • 1 Year Ago
        @sp33dklz
        Not to mention the Xbox has to be connected to the internet every 24h to work. My apartment has no direct internet connection, and thus, even though I'd badly want Forza 5, no dice for me.
        graphikzking
        • 1 Year Ago
        @sp33dklz
        Just hope that people really speak with their $$ (like I have in the past) instead of speaking on forums and buying anyway. MS won't care about all the blogging in the world if their sales numbers are still close to where they estimate. Now if sales are off 15% or more then they will rethink the situation and talk to developers to push openess. By then it will most likely be too late to pick up enough steam and they will be doing damage control, bundle discounts, and probably push the next generation of console, or a smaller redesigned xbox one to market sooner than anticipated.
      Rob K
      • 1 Year Ago
      Pity that this game won\'t be available for PS4.
        Healthy Chap
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Rob K
        Given it's designed on an X86 console, I expect PC trickery to have its say after it's released.
      sstowes
      • 1 Year Ago
      Microsoft is going to have to drum up quite a bit of excitement with its exclusives to move units. The backlash around the system probably has Sony execs feeling pretty confident, in terms of long-run sales figures (not the almost always reliable holiday debut sales).
        Jake
        • 1 Year Ago
        @sstowes
        Is that the backlash where Amazon is reporting record breaking preorders for the new XBOX?
          Lachmund
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Jake
          after the announcement the PS4 overtook and is actually leading preorders (even in the USA). in the rest of the world noone is gonna buy an XBone anyway. http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1
          ryanandrewmartin
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Jake
          Maybe it's the backlash where Sonys stock prices went up and Microsofts went down. Or maybe it's the backlash where you can't read about the reveal on any forum(aside from Microsoft fanboy pages of course)without having to sift through PAGES of negative comments just to find maybe one or two people with something good to say about it...
      Thipps
      • 1 Year Ago
      Games are getting creepy with technology and power. Many people feel On start is too big brother like? well now game systems stay on constantly connected to the web watching you. We know cell phones spy on us now we have a system that could detect not only the number of people in the room one day (or even now) could be paired with facial recognition software. Yeah I know i will be called a conspiracy theorist but last week we found out officials lied under oath about listening and or recording our phone conversations of over 100 million people and thats just verison. Im sure the rabbit hole goes much deeper than that....Looking at you google/facebook other cell phone makers
      ryanandrewmartin
      • 1 Year Ago
      I'm a long time xbox devotee but I just can't get behind all that Microsoft is trying to pull with this new system. Hopefully GT6 can fill the void as I probably won't experience Forza 5 for quite some time. I can take a little solace in the fact that Forza DLC will remain and absolute ra.pefest.
        Allch Chcar
        • 1 Year Ago
        @ryanandrewmartin
        I hear ya,. I owned an xbox360 and played Forza3 and 4. But with all the problems I've had with M$ and just the fact that most of the people I know are playing GT5, it's just not worth it to move onto the new system. I'm jumping ship this time.
      Riley McGinley
      • 1 Year Ago
      If Forza looks this good on the Xbox One, then I can't wait to see how awesome DriveClub and GT7 are going to be on the PS4! Especially GT's night, weather, and rally effects, since Forza doesn't really do those.
      Peter DePriest
      • 1 Year Ago
      Looks great, but aside from new cars, tracks, and upgraded graphics not much there to excite me. Which is good considering I wont be getting an Xbox One and I dont want to feel like Im missing out
        SublimeKnight
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Peter DePriest
        "..aside from new cars, tracks, and upgraded graphics not much there to excite me." What more do you expect out of a racing game?
      djdaizzy
      • 1 Year Ago
      Can't wait to play this!!!
      TrippulG3
      • 1 Year Ago
      "The four years spent developing Forza Motorsport 5 has been time well spent." Umm...Forza 4 come out in 2011. You mean to tell me that Turn 10 has been working on Forza 5 since 2009 (the same year that Forza THREE was released? o_O
        Lachmund
        • 1 Year Ago
        @TrippulG3
        this whole article is full of marketing speak.
        Brodz
        • 1 Year Ago
        @TrippulG3
        Forza 4 was more of a spit and polish of number 3. A very good spit and polish... but one none-the-less. So I would say that that assessment is quite accurate. the driving physics is certainly not better than GT5, but hopefully Turn 10 have managed to deliver one close too or better than GT's, which will combine with their way of making an immersive car culture like racing game that we've come to love about Forza.
      Jim R
      • 1 Year Ago
      Microsoft can go do something anatomically impossible for what all they're doing with the XBone. I'm getting a PS4 next gen.
      SLR722GT
      • 1 Year Ago
      The new PS4 is a much better value than Xbox one
        MotatoTopato
        • 1 Year Ago
        @SLR722GT
        maybe so, but you cant put a blown shelby v8 in a fiesta with all wheel drive, and then play 'tag' or 'cat and mouse' with it in gt on your precious lamestation now can ya??? no, no you can not. its a GAME, its supposed to be FUN!! you want the real deal, then go out and buy a damn track car!!
      slicecom
      • 1 Year Ago
      Nobody in their right mind would buy an Xbox One with the policies Microsoft has for it.
        Sean
        • 1 Year Ago
        @slicecom
        Go back to Reddit, Kotaku or whatever other site you're coming from. There's nothing wrong with the X1's policies unless you're a paranoid conspiracist, or some young kid without a decent income. I'm one of many people that love the all-in-one idea. I don't care if the Kinect is always on; I have nothing to fear in terms of "spying" or invasion of privacy. I buy games new, never bothered sharing them past my high school days, and I have an Internet connection (like the vast majority of people in developed countries). I'm sick and tired of these troll posts.
          bubba_roe
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Sean
          Lol yes, theres nothing wrong with totalitarianism. Go back to the Soviet Union.
          Sean
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Sean
          Bubba, has it ever occurred to you that your cell phone is far a far more versatile and invasive device that can be used for monitoring. I suggest you ditch your laptop if it has a built in cam as well. Quit being paranoid and grow up. Oh no, they're going to monitor my gaming and TV watching habits, da' government's out to get us dudebro. Please.
          Gorgenapper
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Sean
          I cannot believe people like you actually exist. Have you ever heard the phrase "Those who give up liberty in exchange for security deserve neither?" In this case, you're giving up liberty in exchange for exclusive game titles.
          Feurig
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Sean
          Completely agree with Sean. Do you guys realize you're talking about a video game console? It's not "exchanging liberty of security" or "totalitarianism." Microsoft isn't a government. Please.
          Lachmund
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Sean
          oh feurig, how naive are you?! microsoft is in bed with the NSA
          Gorgenapper
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Sean
          You're both deluded if you think that the consumer should just roll over and play dead because "companies r not gubbermint". Imagine if your local grocery store started a policy of keeping all consumers in the store for a minimum of 1 hr, to encourage more purchases, and also started carrying less brands in favor of the higher profit ones. Would you switch stores, or would you shrug your shoulders and accept it as a part of the shopping experience because, you know, everyone has to eat? XBone is the grocery store. Games are the products. You're the shopper. The other grocery store is PS4 and PC (and Wii U, I guess).
        TrueDat
        • 1 Year Ago
        @slicecom
        tell that to gamestop.. who has already accumulated a record number of pre-orders for any console.
          turboawdftw
          • 1 Year Ago
          @TrueDat
          theyre gonna resell them on ebay
          slicecom
          • 1 Year Ago
          @TrueDat
          They're clearly not in their right mind. ;)
        David Donovan
        • 1 Year Ago
        @slicecom
        The only people whining about the DRM policies is cheap people who don't want to buy games new. I'm all for it. All the cheapskates and ghetto folk who feel the need to blast their music into their headsets will hopefully find their way over to PS4 and leave a more mature crowd for the Xbox
        David Donovan
        • 1 Year Ago
        @slicecom
        As for the Kinect issues with people wondering about it spying on them, I'm guessing these same people must be paranoid with their cell phones since you know........they can do the same thing with them as well
        Steve
        • 1 Year Ago
        @slicecom
        I'm buying two of them AND a PS4.
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