Nissan scored a big win for itself when the NV200 was named New York City's Taxi of Tomorrow, but the compact van has been under attack ever since. The latest setback for Nissan comes from the New York Supreme Court, which has reportedly ruled the deal between NYC and Nissan is "null, void and unenforceable" since the NV200 is not a hybrid – one of the key parts of NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg Taxi of Tomorrow plan.

The NV200 Taxi launches this October. Although Nissan says it is bringing a hybrid version of the van to market in 2015, the New York Supreme Court ruled against Nissan, which opens the door for taxi companies in NYC to drive non-Nissan hybrid vehicles. Despite this setback, it doesn't sound like this ruling will affect the NV200 becoming the official taxi of NYC as a part of the 10-year contract worth an estimated $1 billion.


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      wickedme91
      • 1 Year Ago
      I am pretty sure people who RIDE in the taxies don't care for anything except comfort and cost. NYC should have just dictated a universal tariff rate and let the companies use whatever they want. Maybe promote cleaner vehicles with a rebate etc. The city would have automatically ended up with the most efficient one since the cab companies aren't in charity business. People can say that having a official taxi means less eyesore ad everything but who really cares about that? We just ignore it.
      paulwilson05
      • 1 Year Ago
      What's the point of the partition? Can't have more than 3 passengers?
        lne937s
        • 1 Year Ago
        @paulwilson05
        it is to protect the drivers (who often carry large amounts of cash) from passengers
      mobettermakes
      • 1 Year Ago
      In NYC there is a service called access-a-ride that picks up disabled passengers much like an airport shuttle service. Not to be biased but taxis should be HC accessible but not necessarily with wheelchair lifts that weigh quite a bit that will kill any efficiency gained from hybrid gains. The MTA buses already are fitted to pick up wheelchairs and those with walkers. The whole fleet should not suffer in cost and efficiency because they should be fitted for those that generally would not take a taxi (due to costs). After breaking my pelvis I made it uptown and crosstown to the hospitals via the MTA buses and was elated to do so. I did not and do not feel it was my god given right for public transportation or private medallion taxis to cater to my disability. As for the Americaness of NYC's taxis of tomorrow, it would be a nice bonus but let the best designed and durable product win. These things are painted taxi yellow and the badges can be removed. But think . . . In the long run, will the awarded company actually lose or limit overall sales, being known as a taxi? How many private people desired a crown vic after every cab and cop had one (other than a few retirees from Florida)?
      Hampton
      • 1 Year Ago
      That thing makes the Pontiac Aztec look like a Ferrari.
        Randy
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Hampton
        Walter White makes the Pontiac Aztek cool!
        Spec
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Hampton
        It is a practical functional design. It is not designed to look good, it is designed to work good.
      rollie
      • 1 Year Ago
      One more example of just how whacked out this mayor is. New Yorkers must be dumber daily to keep this joker in office. Nobody could think \"American\" in what is the icon city of the US? Hybrid? Get out.... Just go figure how long a hybrid will actually work here in this type of environment. Dead batterys before brunch.
        waetherman
        • 1 Year Ago
        @rollie
        I can't disagree with your assessment of Bloomberg - he's become a little dictator, especially since being elected to his (improper) third term. But I'm pretty sure you have no idea what NYC living is like, what cars would work well here as taxis, or even what the term "hybrid" means. NYC has had hybrid taxis for years and they are widely praised by their owners for their efficiency in the city, where stop-and-go traffic is the norm even on highways. The "taxi of tomorrow" needs to be hybrid, and it needs to be 100% handicapped-accessible. Bloomberg's decision to give the contract to Nissan is wrong on so many levels, and it needs to be undone by whomever takes office next (I'm looking at you, Bill DB).
          Sir Duke
          • 1 Year Ago
          @waetherman
          Rollie: I also disagree with Bloomberg's contract to Nissan, but you are making a political statement. Living in NYC doesn't make you an authority on the subject. More than half of the folks in NYC who ride the hybrid buses, doesn't even know that they are.
          rollie
          • 1 Year Ago
          @waetherman
          I live in NY.
        jtciti
        • 1 Year Ago
        @rollie
        regardless of politics and cost, city taxis should be hybrids. They drive nearly 100% in stop start conditions, and over so many miles every day that they are actually worth it. In addition, taxis are abused so much that they don't last much longer than 5 years anyways. I agree it should be an american car but lets make sure the hybrid clause stays. the nissan was indeed hideous. i'm glad its getting the axe
          rollie
          • 1 Year Ago
          @jtciti
          jtciti- Ask just how long a battery will stay in service in NYC winters with the kind of service a cab does. Then the battery is dead, and the gas motor takes over, saving nothing. Having lofty ideas should be underscored by PRACTICAL IN USE STUDY, which shows more expense, and almost no benefit to a hybrid in this use.
          Sir Duke
          • 1 Year Ago
          @jtciti
          Rollie: Not sure what your attempted argument is, but none of it is based in fact. NYC and hybrids are made for each other, almost every large metropolitan city should also get on board. Unless, you don't mind seeing your buildings and monuments covered in soot. Breathing an elevated concentration of carbon particles etc. Want proof the hybrids work? Follow this link and EDUCATE yourself. Bone up on the FACTS, not the rhetoric. http://www.afdc.energy.gov/pdfs/nyct_diesel_hybrid.pdf Here is an excerpt of what matters: MTA Operations MTA operates the largest public transportation system in the United States and transports nearly 7.8 million weekday passengers via bus and rail. NYCT’s 4,871 buses carry more than 2 million of those passengers each weekday along 235 bus routes. The buses operate from 18 depots 24 hours a day, average 1,871 miles of routes daily, and travel over 115 million miles annually in revenue service. MTA estimates that, by taking the subway or bus instead of driving cars, New York City residents are already significantly reducing the area’s annual air pollution levels. For example: ■ Hydrocarbons are reduced by 22 million pounds, ■ Soot and particulate matter are reduced by 900,000 pounds, ■ Nitrogen oxides are reduced by 19 million pounds, and ■ Carbon monoxide emissions are reduced by 310 million pounds. Add 13,000+ Taxi cabs, you'll understand why hybrids are important.
          johnnythemoney
          • 1 Year Ago
          @jtciti
          @ rollie since the cabs are as you're all pointing out driven a lot, there is no reason to think the batteries will suffer from the cold as they are kept at optimal temp by the ECU using either its own self generated heat or even the ICE's or cooled down by the car's cooling system.
          johnnythemoney
          • 1 Year Ago
          @jtciti
          12 hours to recharge a hybrid (a plug-in hybrid I take)?! By that time you'd have recharged a full electric vehicle, really. Indeed I think an electric vehicle would be better off for taxi duties, but we're definitely not there yet unless Tesla pulls another magic number. Again, if a vehicle is running at idle to keep the cabin warm, it can also recharge the batteries and/or maintain them at the optimal temp. Charge cycles may be a concern but I don't expect them to be a problem for at least 5 years based on datas from older hybrids. The Prius mk1 is still kicking around with 16 years old battery packs supposed to be dead 6 years ago, and we are talking about 16 years old tech as well. You don't get to change your phone or laptop because of its battery after 2 years even if you /not a specifically programmed ECU) charge them every day not in the best conditions either (not fully depleted, which is a good thing to do at least every 2 weeks with laptops for instance).
        waetherman
        • 1 Year Ago
        @rollie
        Just where in "NY" do you live that you've never seen or ridden in a hybrid taxi?
          Hello, Brian
          • 1 Year Ago
          @waetherman
          Rollie: stop being so myopic.
          Trist
          • 1 Year Ago
          @waetherman
          The Ford Escape Hybrid cab is probably the most common, and then there are Prius, Altimas, c-max, Camry, Highlander, Lexus RX hybrid. All hybrid's, in abundance, except the Lexus which there are only 2 of them in yellow taxi service. They even have the mk5 Jetta, wagon, and Sport Wagon's which are diesels. Gasoline only taxi's are at this point, just the slowly phasing out Crown Victoria's, Explorer's, Siennas and Transit vans. There's a Nissan Leaf or two in a silver/yellow livery that is being used as a pilot program to test electric taxis and the ability to be able to switch or charge batteries in between taxi shifts.
          rollie
          • 1 Year Ago
          @waetherman
          Western Long Island. I also remember the old Checkers. Lots of room, good ride, and tough as nails. True, not good on fuel or cleanliness, but real NY. I don't get this "foreign" thing. Don't we honor dudes who fought these guys for something on this day. Christ, they won after all............makes me sick.
        2 wheeled menace
        • 1 Year Ago
        @rollie
        A hybrid won't work well? Gee, tell that to all the prius owners that have 100k-200k on their batteries..
      lordedardstark1
      • 1 Year Ago
      I don't mean to sound ignorant but this vehicle really should be American. The New York taxi is an iconic part of America. Ford could have offered a hybrid faster than Nissan with their C Max power train in a Transit. I don't like New York gov't because they really didn't listen to the people on this one. Ask New Yorkers and see how many of them like the looks if this abomination...
        Randy
        • 1 Year Ago
        @lordedardstark1
        I agree and also don't want to sound ignorant. I don't have anything against Nissan or the country of origin or its people but NYC is the largest city in the USA amd should showcase American innovations. To me its like seeing an American flag with a tag that says Made In Other Country, regardless of what country that is. But hey, this Nissan does look slick!
          lordedardstark1
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Randy
          Slick, no
          Jack Holliday
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Randy
          new york is not the biggest city in the USA.... you could put 3 new york city's inside Los Angeles metro
          Randy
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Randy
          NYC is largest by population, that's what I was referring to. Its 2.5 times the size of LA. Heck, Alaska has 4 or 5 cities that are bigger than LA in size. LA is like the 11th largest based on land mass. So population was the key...
        lordedardstark1
        • 1 Year Ago
        @lordedardstark1
        sincerely, Everyone
      AngeloD
      • 1 Year Ago
      Is there anything about life in NYC that the overcompensating Liberal sociopath Bloomberg hasn't screwed up yet? Why do NYers tolerate this freedom-hating fascist? Under the sawed-off little fascist Bloomberg, the NYPD continues to use "at a whim" illegal stop-and-frisk and NYers have no apparent problem with it. Do these people even know what country they live in?
        archos
        • 1 Year Ago
        @AngeloD
        NYers have a BIG problem with it. There continues to be protests and there already a trial thats about to end. The city is probably going to lose and the judge will be able to make modifications to the law. That said, Bloomberg needs to RESIGN over the stop-and-frisk abuse. Skin color is not reasonable suspicion of a crime. He should have to walk in court in an orange jumpsuit for what he's done.
        BK
        • 1 Year Ago
        @AngeloD
        Is Bloomberg a fascist (generally defined as extreme right wing), a liberal, or all of the above? The stop and frisk policy of tough police action/enforcement would usually be considered a conservative/right position. So is he a lib or fascist? Maybe you should learn what these things are before you criticize. Bloomberg has used his office to try novel approaches to governing to help solve societal problems. Stop and frisk is constitutional. Whether it is good policy is definitely another topic. Trying to prevent diseases like diabetes which cost taxpayers tend of billions every year is laudable. (Is is liberal or fascist to dictate to people receiving public assistance that they can't use those funds for unhealthy food?). Look at his smoking ban. It made life here SO much better. Then I loved to Chicago where the Aldermen banned foie gras with less debate than smoking in bars!!! Maybe you should inform yourself, and maybe live here, before you shoot your mouth off.
          AngeloD
          • 1 Year Ago
          @BK
          Sorry, you lost me at the BIG LIE of fascism being a "right wing" political philosophy. The fascists, and their Nazi counterparts were well accepted and recognized elements of hard-left European Socialism in the early 1900s. Repeating that lie isn't going to make it true. You lefties brought the world communism, fascism, National Socialism and their astonishing level of violence. Don't pin your history of genocide on the right.
        neilyadig
        • 1 Year Ago
        @AngeloD
        Why do you assume people have no problem with stop-and-frisk? I'm from here and nobody I know is PRO stop-and-frisk... it's absurd. And absurd to think people who live here LIKE the stop-and-frisk policy when its an obvious violation of our rights.
          AngeloD
          • 1 Year Ago
          @neilyadig
          And yet you NYers reelect that venial little overcompensating sociopath over..and over...and over... How many of your fellow New Yorkers are even slightly bothered by the clearly fascist elements of Bloomberg's policies...very few. It's a damn shame VA Atty. Gen. Ken Cuccinelli didn't prosecute Bloomberg for felony conspiracy to violate VA's gun laws when that sawed off NY Assclown was running his incompetent ham-handed and patently illegal "sting operations" at a few mom and pop gun stores. The venial S.O.B. gets away with shredding the Constitution because NYers are too backward, badly educated, and lazy to object.
        Hello, Brian
        • 1 Year Ago
        @AngeloD
        Angelo, I remind you that Bloomberg is a Republican. Many of his policies cannot be considered liberal. Fascist? Perhaps. But, he cannot be both a fascist and a liberal. That would be dichotomous...but that is another debate entirely.
          AngeloD
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Hello, Brian
          @Brian I remind you that Bloomberg was a hard left Deomcrat before switching to the Republican Party for five years in order to dodge the NYC Democratic primary which he couldn't win on a bet. Bloomberg quit the Republican part over two years ago, and good riddence. His brand of hard left extremism, i.e. neo-fascism, is offensive to every Republican not a RINO. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19317522/#.UaKDbUCR_RM
      Koenigsegg
      • 1 Year Ago
      LMAO What the hell is that **** they managed to make the leaf even uglier ROFL someone please help nissan design a better car PLEASE they are polluting the world with ugliness and thats the worst pollution
      Trist
      • 1 Year Ago
      Just another court ruling setback for good old Bloomberg. Trying to ban soda over a certain size, dictating what vehicle will be the taxi choice, and my personal favorite: the warantless stop and frisk of 600k people a year, 88% of which are black/latino with a rate of finding any drugs/weapons lower than randomly pulling people over.
      Rotation
      • 1 Year Ago
      Good thing. That vehicle is completely hideous and I cannot see how the local government telling taxi drivers they can only drove one model is anything but an attempt to funnel money to the city (at best).
      pag@optusnet.com.au
      • 1 Year Ago
      I don't live in New York, so I can only speak as a visitor. In principle The city government should be able to impose certain requirements on Taxi's. Signs, size, comport, features and facilities, fares rates, power-train type, driver competency, maintenance, number of licences issued etc. These are all correct and proper benefits and safeguards for both passengers and the taxi industry. However, no government should choose one manufacturer, and enforce that choice on private enterprise. No automotive maker should have a monopoly. In many ways Mayer Bloomberg has been a very good Mayor, but I just wonder what Thomas Jefferson, or Tom Paine, would have though about unilateral stop and frisk powers granted to Police? A citizen of New York should be able to peacefully proceed about his business without the fear of being accosted, molested and humiliated by Police Officers. I appreciate that New York police probably feel, (and with come merit) that this is a necessary measure, and that it's only exercised very responsibly. But freedoms are are to acquire, and easily eroded in the name of 'necessity'. The Courts decision is welcome news.
        Richard Nygaard
        • 1 Year Ago
        @pag@optusnet.com.au
        Yeah, hes a great mayor. I hope you get one just like him in your town. /barf
      ChrisS
      • 1 Year Ago
      This initial ruling probably doesn't mean a whole lot. The article should read "a" New York State Supreme Court rather than "the." In New York, the trial courts are the supreme court and the highest court is the Court of Appeals.
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