Taking a detailed look at the Honda lineup in the US, it isn't hard to see the strength of some models and the weaknesses of others. A recent report on Autoline Daily points out that its five core models – the Accord, Civic, CR-V, Odyssey and Pilot – make up a full 93 percent of Honda's sales in the US. Through April, Honda has sold 419,798 vehicles, and 389,474 of them were from these core models; not to mention the fact that the Accord was the top-selling car in the US last month.

This means that Honda could technically cut six of its 11 models and only lose about 5,000 sales per month. Of course, this is just some data crunching and there is no reason to believe that Honda is planning to kill off any of its models in the near future. In fact, it seems to be committed to the Ridgeline, while Japanese-made models that may actually lose money for Honda still fill unique voids. Scroll down for the video report – fast-forward to the 1:43 mark for the Honda info.


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      King of Eldorado
      • 1 Year Ago
      I was sorry to see the Element dropped a couple of years ago. I had one for 5 years and it was a tremendously useful all-purpose vehicle. The styling was a bit too intentionally funky and was way overdue for a redesign, which I envision as something along the lines of the new Ford Transit Connect passenger version.
        Snark
        • 1 Year Ago
        @King of Eldorado
        No. I've owned one. It was delightful while camping or biking. It was a sorry piece of dook the rest of the time. There are a lot more fun ways to get 22mpg in a slow, utilitarian car.
          straferhoo
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Snark
          And that's why Honda should have applied the same improvements made to the CRV, instead of leaving it the same to die a slow death. i still drive my 2003 Element, and would have bought another to replace it if it had improved like the new CRV.
      Big Squid
      • 1 Year Ago
      The CRZ would be good at double the economy OR double the horsepower.
      al4gg10
      • 1 Year Ago
      The Honda S2000 , Element, Integra are now gone. I much prefer the Integra to the CRZ but that really does not say much ! The Element was a vehicle that also had some great features also prefer it to the CRX. The S2000 was a low selling sport car but as a performance car was great at providing thrills at a good price point. Better than the Maita or Z4 !
      Scooter
      • 1 Year Ago
      Enough with the CRZ to CR-X comments. The CR-X was light weight 90s hatch with nothing more than a radio, 4 wheels and roof. In fact, it wasn't fast by today's standards and didn't offer any real cabin comforts. Sans all the modern safety features, I doubt the car was even safe for a crash compared to the CR-Z, which probably made it lighter as well. Honda made the S2000, a very fast car, so these guys can definitely make a CR-Z with high output. But people are getting the CR-Z completely mis-categorized and downright wrong. Its not a Civic Si. Honda already makes that, its called...the Civic Si. The CR-Z is a green hatchback aimed at young buyers who want a green sporty car, sporty doesn't mean 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, its an overall look and feel in the drive. I'm sorry the CR-Z wasn't aimed at the "fast&furious wanna be street punks" but its just not going to be a street racing car in any production form at the moment. All this comparison to a low tech, barebones, super old CR-X is silly. Trust me, if it was profitable for Honda to crank out a 200hp CR-Z it would happen, but with the current market trend and economic state of affairs, its just not in the cards right now. Btw, the CR-X is inferior to the CR-Z in every category except for a few miles per gallon. Drive a CR-X and a CR-Z in the same day, you would never want to be in the old CR-X again. Most of these guys complaining speak out of a complete lack of experience with a CR-Z. Its actually a blast to drive even if you can't out drag a sports car.
        breakfastburrito
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Scooter
        So many sentences, just to tell us all you're an utter moron... The crx entered and won Many racing contests, beating even corvettes at autocross. It had a double-wishbone suspension, extremely light curb weight, a quick steering ratio, and is still one of the most fun cars to drive. The CR-Z is an oversized, underpowered commuter-mobile. Saying it's "better" than a CRX has every honest track guy laughing at you.
          Scooter
          • 1 Year Ago
          @breakfastburrito
          Were not talking about SI versions. Plus the CR-Z isn't a racer and is never going to be one, so please just get over it. Its a Hybrid with a sportier drive than a Prius. So you love the CRX? Your either too poor to afford something modern and better or maybe your just a "moron" living in the past.
          Matt
          • 1 Year Ago
          @breakfastburrito
          Living in the past? A good platform is a good platform, I don't care how old it is.
          • 1 Year Ago
          @breakfastburrito
          [blocked]
        AcidTonic
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Scooter
        But if we *want* a little "street racing" can we pay a lil' extra? (Grandma's Boy reference)
      Nick Allain
      • 1 Year Ago
      Honda - So instead of making something fast and fun like the S2000, you make, slow, boring, weird, stupid, ugly, and useless models (I'm looking at you CRZ, Crosstour, Ridgeline). In words of Jeremy Clarkson..... SSSSSSTUPPPPID.
        Scooter
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Nick Allain
        If you want fast go buy a Mustang. The CRZ is a hybrid. The Crosstour is wagon version of the Accord, the Ridgeline is a slightly less useable truck. But stop crying about speed, thats such an old argument. If you love the S2000 so much, go buy one and end it already.
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Nick Allain
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      Scooter
      • 1 Year Ago
      As a current Honda CR-Z owner, I appreciate a company that would continue to make niche cars. Most companies want to sell you a segment diluted "universal car". To me, my car is representation of my individuality, I love driving a car that isn't a universal car. Maybe its just me, but as a life long car lover, ( loving cars isnt just about owning a straight line drag winner) its about a connection with your machine, maintaining it and most of all enjoying yourself in the car. Honestly, I'm the kinda guy that has to own something rare and unique. The CR-Z is a great car for me right now, there aren't a 100 highway side dealer lots with 100s of them in neat rows, its not overly diluted and common. Niche cars are great because they turn heads, they excite owners with the simple fact its not a "one size fits all" car. I have no idea what niche car I'm going to own after I'm done with the CR-Z but I look forward to owning another low-market presence unique niche car. Do I like some of the common cars out there? For example, I like the 3 series BMW but its just too typical for me, its a great car but I can't see myself wanting something thats going to be seen everywhere in different colors and trims.
        breakfastburrito
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Scooter
        You're not buying it because it's good - you've bought into it because it's "niche/unique/special like unicorn farts". If you want to be "special", buy a Mini Coupe. Almost NOBODY buys those. The CR-Z is embarrassing, and we should all be upset we don't get the Euro Type R hatch instead.
          • 1 Year Ago
          @breakfastburrito
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          breakfastburrito
          • 1 Year Ago
          @breakfastburrito
          Did you really just type "your an idiot"? wow... If you read the history of Honda, you'd know that Soichiro would NOT be using Macpherson Strut Hybrid slowmobiles to compete with Toyota. I'd bet you have no idea what a Repsol graphic means... 'You're' so fully disconnected from the Honda brand, and yet you try to claim some connection to it? Here's a tidbit for you - my 1984 CRX HF was factory rated at 58mpg, and road tested up to 66mpg, beating your fancy CR-Z at "green" just as well.
        AcidTonic
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Scooter
        Rare and unique..... just like everyone else. CR-Z has people looking because at first they think it may be something sporty or fast..... then they are like "Oh, it's just a CR-Z". The CR-Z owners mistake it for positive attention, but really people are like what th- oh, just one of *those*. Seriously.
          Scooter
          • 1 Year Ago
          @AcidTonic
          Guy in a 2013 Nismo 370 Z pulled me over to tell me how sharp looking the car was, and how he left Honda because he didn't think they made cars that looked this good. This car gets mad attention, everyone loves it, turns heads everywhere I go... Its not my fault your Hyundai Accent blends in with the other junk.
        clquake
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Scooter
        Hybrids are not unique. The CR-Z is only rare because no one buys them. It's like saying a Chevy Chevette is rare. Well, yeah, but not for the reason you think it is.
      CTMechE
      • 1 Year Ago
      This ticks me off. The only Honda I've ever owned is my S2000, and the only Honda I'd want to add would be a plain ol' Accord wagon. If they can continue to make the Crosstour, why the hell can't we get a normal, low-$20k plain-Jane Accord wagon, especially if they don't mind making other low-selling models?
        clquake
        • 1 Year Ago
        @CTMechE
        Agree with you 100%, however, there's no wagon because it would poach from the CR-V sales. Only enthusiasts say they'll buy a wagon, while the rest of the market buys the cuv, so they shouldn't knowingly build a car that they know will lose money. Honda still thinks it can make money on the Crosstour.
        Corey
        • 1 Year Ago
        @CTMechE
        Because its not 1993
        Scooter
        • 1 Year Ago
        @CTMechE
        The Accord Crosstour is a B O A T. Gets really bad fuel economy and is just really too "senior-esque" in appearance. Its almost like a big giant luxury version of a basic accord, and cost the same too.
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Scooter
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        piggybox
        • 1 Year Ago
        @CTMechE
        It's called Subaru Outback
      Legend
      • 1 Year Ago
      Honda needs to start making cars that people under the age of 50 would be willing to buy
      tenspeeder
      • 1 Year Ago
      make a new Prelude. sorry Mr Honda delaer, but no I do not find the Accord coupe a perfect replacement for the Prelude.
        CTK
        • 1 Year Ago
        @tenspeeder
        Why should they make it, you wouldn't buy it new. They sold
      Nickoo
      • 1 Year Ago
      It's simple, drop the hybrid tech from the CRZ, make the civic SI worth buying (that is, add about 75 hp), and redesign the back end/lower the cross tour to be a euro gt competitor instead of an outback competitor.
        Nickoo
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Nickoo
        Oh, and bring back the element, and downsize the ridgeline/lower the price and up the fuel economy to the point it's actually worth buying.
          omni007
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Nickoo
          You have a great point. No one is making small pickups anymore. Honda now has valuable experience making trucks. A compact pickup made by Honda...might be a killer.
        piggybox
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Nickoo
        If the crosstour were an outback competitor, it would sell much better
        Scooter
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Nickoo
        The CR-Z would be a direct competitor of the Civic, since it would cost the same. And the exchange rate is what I've heard prevents this. Eitherway, making the CR-Z an Si type model would weaken Civic SI sales. But I do agree about the Civic SI, although its a solid performer, its never been a pretty car.
      mylexicon
      • 1 Year Ago
      Other than the Crosstour and Ridgeline, what can they actually throw away in the US market? The CR-Z is an important Honda concept. The Insight is in a critical segment. The fit is in a critical segment. The FCX Clarity is in a critical segment. For all intents and purposes, they can only get rid of the Crosstour and the Ridgeline.
        INCREDIBLE BOB
        • 1 Year Ago
        @mylexicon
        Citing lousy-selling cars as "filling a segment" is like telling a friend to date your ugly sister
      PeterScott
      • 1 Year Ago
      The CR-Z as the poster child for killing models is appropriate. I think most of us called that failure. Here is better perspective with real sales numbers for April 2013: http://www.hondabeat.com/news_details.php?ID=552 All the big sellers, sell over 10,000/month The lowest is the Pilot with 10,613, highest is the Accord with 33,500. Now the models he talks about cutting (ignore the Clarity, it isn't really a production car). Fit: 4,286 Ridgeline 1,557 Crosstour: 1,504 CR-Z: 405 Insight: 391 From the bottom: The Insight/CR-Z really should be cut without question. IMO they will be axed globally, not just in the USA, they are both dismal failures. Crosstour/Ridgeline should also be scrapped, though a better pickup/wagon might be introduced. Finally the Honda Fit. Here I disagree. The Fit should survive, sales are much larger (10X Insight/CR-Z) than others on the CUT list, well reviewed, and a we know a new version is imminent with new Earthdreams drivetrain, which should boost fuel economy and sales. The Fit alone deserves to stay on the market.
        PeterScott
        • 1 Year Ago
        @PeterScott
        Also there is room for Fit to grow. Many other compacts are outselling Fit. A new improved Fit could take back market share: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2013/04/usa-small-car-sales-figures-march-2013.html March compact Sample: Nissan Versa: 15,917 Chev Sonic: 6,907 Ford Fiesta: 6,728 Hyundai Accent: 5,669 Honda Fit: 4,602 The Fit is merely at the end of it's run and facing a lot more competition. It needs a new model with better fuel economy and hopefully a 6th gear on the MT for better highway cruising.
          • 1 Year Ago
          @PeterScott
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