The Nissan NV200 is having a rough go of it as New York City's Taxi of Tomorrow. The Greater New York Taxi Association wants the van banned on the grounds that it isn't a hybrid, and has gone so far as to sue the city to keep the NV200 out of taxi fleets. According to The New York Times, the city has responded by proposing to allow taxi drivers to use certain hybrid vehicles. The Taxi and Limousine Commission's proposal would allow any vehicle with an interior volume of 138 cubic feet or more. Unfortunately, that excludes nearly every machine that isn't the size of the NV200.

Technically, Nissan is working on a hybrid version of the Taxi of Tomorrow, but it may be years before that model hits the streets, and the Greater New York Taxi Association isn't satisfied with the city's offer. In a statement, the Association said, "These rules look like they have been created to short-circuit the litigation. We do not consider this to be a serious proposal."


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      John
      • 1 Year Ago
      I'll admit I was rather surprised that these weren't hybrids when they were announced with much fanfare. It seemed very out of step with most of Bloomberg's other initiatives. With many hybrid cabs in a variety of styles in use now, why would they force the change to the new one before its system is ready to go? There must be some back room story somewhere.
        Muttons
        • 1 Year Ago
        @John
        Well, I know Ford's proposal was a modified Transit Connect, which I don't believe was a hybrid either.
        Cayman
        • 1 Year Ago
        @John
        Supposedly Bloomberg fought to require a certain mileage requirement and went to the USSC but lost. I don't get why they could set other requirements but not mileage requirements, although maybe it's because it's not the mayors right to set requirements, but rather the taxi commission.
      • 1 Year Ago
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      rolanie3
      • 1 Year Ago
      Having ridden in every Taxi currently on NYC streets, I'd have to say the best would be the Prius V and the C-MAX, with a slight nudge to the C-MAX- the ride is simply more comfortable. Sure the C-MAX doesnt get EPA numbers, but it sure as hell beats the Crown Vic. Interior volume goes to the Prius V. They need to get the regular Prius, Altima, and corollas out of there - it's simply cramped! I can't imagine a trip to the airport in any of those.
        rolanie3
        • 1 Year Ago
        @rolanie3
        - Forgot to mention, the Transit Connect was amazing as well, but so far I've only ridden in conventional ICE models. If they could get the Azure Electric converted EV version out there or if Ford could whip up a Hybrid, it would be a much better alternative than the NV200.
          Jesse Gurr
          • 1 Year Ago
          @rolanie3
          Too bad Azure Electric went bankrupt. Since Magna is doing the Focus electrics, Ford should have them do the new Transit Connect electrics too. It would probably be too expensive still, though.
      Dave
      • 1 Year Ago
      Bloomberg has Declared \"Because im an American!\" many times for his reasoning to support a certain cause or political decision. His gun control campaign and his anti-obesity campaigns come to mind. Yet, when theres an opportunity to create American Jobs - such as if the company that was going to build cabs in Brooklyn, or give the bid to a company foregin or domestic that would guarantee to buld the Cab of the Future in the US. He is silent. Typical Politician. Money Talks.
      RomanM
      • 1 Year Ago
      I say good idea, NYC taxis should've been all hybrids at the very least, or some version of electric. Those Crown Vics create the most visible pollution in NYC. I certainly hope they'll switch that rule to black Limos as well, they are plenty of hybrids that can be used like black limos, MB S400, Camry Hybrid, and there are a few Large SUVs that are hybrid, or make them charge half price fare.
      Hello, Brian
      • 1 Year Ago
      This is not a "hybrid ban", it is a "non-hybrid ban". Bad title.
      sloanm101
      • 1 Year Ago
      Just from reading the comments below, the Autoblog community could of made a better decision on not just choosing a vehicle for the 'Taxi of Tomorrow' but, also choosing more than one vehicle to meet the wide choice of taxi cab needs. I still don't understand why the city has mandated a requirement that you have to use this taxi cab sounds kinda against capitalist ideals, especially from a city that has capitalism to thank for building such a great city.
        Spec
        • 1 Year Ago
        @sloanm101
        Well, it is a heavily regulated industry and the it is the city's streets so they should have some say in what vehicle is used. The sliding doors were apparently important as that helps minimize accidents and keep traffic flowing more smoothly.
      ksrcm
      • 1 Year Ago
      "These rules look like they have been created to short-circuit the litigation. We do not consider this to be a serious proposal." ROFLMAO I guess when you are a lawyer (that's who usually writes statements for clients), any attempt to kill litigation has got to be a joke. You know, for someone who found the way to interpret even something as clear as "300 ft" it has got to be so unbelievable that it looks like a joke. What a joke of a country we became.
      canuckcharlie
      • 1 Year Ago
      I still think NY should have use an American brand for their taxi fleet. Germany uses mostly Mercedes, Japan use Toyota. For a country with big automotive sector, they should take pride in their own brands...(even if NV200 is build in the US)
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        @canuckcharlie
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          barry.derry
          • 1 Year Ago
          The Crown Vic was not US built. Nor was the planned Transit replacement, which was also not US designed. These are all faceless multi-national conglomerates, there's no home town pride outside of the ad agency, let's just finally admit that for once.
          BipDBo
          • 1 Year Ago
          That really is a dumb statement. That was the main reason why many companies resisted a change. The US designed and built Crown Vic was the most rugged, reliable and easy to repair car available. The new Taurus and Fusion aren't too far behind. This Nissan, not nearly as rugged. Here in Florida, taxi drivers still often use Dodge Diplomats, which went out of service in 1989. These cars had 5 digit odometers so some have lost count how many times they've rolled over. Many with pride, have kept track, and you'll hear it's flipped no less than 5 times, sometimes quite a few more.
          icon149
          • 1 Year Ago
          ... juanb60, that seems pretty ignorant, almost all taxi's in service in the USA are american made, and they have been for years. the Crown Vic of course being the mainstay. that was a comment that has no basis in fact.
          BipDBo
          • 1 Year Ago
          "The Crown Vic was not US built." Didn't now that. Apparently it's been made in Ontario since 1991. Figures. Canadians don't make crap. It seems like everything from there is built like a brick outhouse.
          Cayman
          • 1 Year Ago
          @icon-- Maybe most cabs are American built but certainly not \"almost all\". Where I live, they tend to buy old police cruisers for taxis; so you end up getting crown vics that are on their last leg. But you also get quite a few Altimas and Sienna\'s.
        • 1 Year Ago
        @canuckcharlie
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          clquake
          • 1 Year Ago
          Profits don't go to Japan. They have a lot of taxes on foreign income. Please learn something about international finances before posing stupidity.
      Domenico Monti
      • 1 Year Ago
      They should of picked the Ford Transit, atleast the transit has been updated for 2014 and now and it looks much better than this ugly hunk of plastic. Big mistake Mr. Bloomberg... big mistake.
      Brewman15
      • 1 Year Ago
      Someone in NYC must be getting some massive kick-backs for this hideous thing because I do not understand why they are pushing for it so hard. Why do they not let the cab drivers, you know the guys that will be sitting in it all day everyday depending on it for a living, have any input on the vehicle of choice. Who cares if they use multiple vehicles that the cab driver or cab company chooses. In Chicago, I regularly saw Crown Vics, Escapes, Camrys, Altimas, Prius\', Sonantas, Siennas, Caravans, and a few other vehicles as cabs, and a lot of them were hybrids.
        The Wasp
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Brewman15
        NYC currently also has a mix of many different models serving as taxi. I have recently ridden in Crown Vic, Escape, Prius, Prius V and Nissan Altima taxis.
        jonwil2002
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Brewman15
        I think one of the reasons for the taxi-of-tomorrow is because of a mandate from somewhere that cabs in NYC be able to handle people in wheelchairs and stuff, hence the need for larger cabs that can accommodate them.
          Jesse Gurr
          • 1 Year Ago
          @jonwil2002
          That is true, but not all of these vans will be wheelchair accessible. Only a small percentage will be equipped like that and they have to be requested by the person needing it.
          ChrisH
          • 1 Year Ago
          @jonwil2002
          greens versus disabled rights people is almost worthy of getting popcorn for
      PeterScott
      • 1 Year Ago
      Headline is backwards. There is no Hybrid Ban. There is a Hybrid Requirement.
        Cayman
        • 1 Year Ago
        @PeterScott
        No, there isn't a hybrid requirement. The commission wants a standard taxi cab for NYC, and they've settled on the NV200. Currently they don't make a hybrid and don't know when/if they will. So, it wasn't really a hybrid ban, it's a non-NV200 ban. The change that they are discussing is that they'll now going to allow cabbies to continue using their hybrid vehicles until a NV200 is available in a hybrid.
          PeterScott
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Cayman
          You are correct. I just read quickly because it didn't make sense that there was a hybrid ban, and there wasn't. The headline is still incorrect.
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