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Theophilus Chin has been known to wagonize a vehicle or two with his computer skills, so the fictional Tesla Model ST wagon seen above is not a total surprise. Chin took the exquisite shape of the Model S and left the front end pretty much alone. In the back, though, Chin created a station wagon for the plug-in generation, complete with a practical (if range-affecting) roof rack.

We know Tesla is officially working on new models, starting with the Model X CUV, which is based on the Model S, and then a third-generation platform and a next-gen Roadster. As good as Chin's rendering looks, the Model S already has a frunk (front-end trunk) and plenty of storage room in back already. So, does a Model S wagon even make sense? Would Europeans eat these up? How about Americans? How about you?


Should Tesla offer a Model S wagon?
Yes. 1101 (68.4%)
No. 410 (25.5%)
I'm not sure. 98 (6.1%)


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      mikeybyte1
      • 2 Years Ago
      I can see them considering this once they get the Model X and Roadster out, this could be an easy add-on to the Model S. Nicely done.
      Ashton
      • 2 Years Ago
      The model X already looks a lot like the model S....So no, I don't want Tesla to make a-n-o-t-h-e-r Model S-esq vehicle.
      Majerus
      • 2 Years Ago
      I bet that would kill the aerodynamics..
      Ryan
      • 2 Years Ago
      I would rather see them bring back an aerodynamic convertible. Add in the Supercharger and shoot for 400 mile range...
      PeterScott
      • 2 Years Ago
      If any car, doesn't need a wagon, it is the Model S. It already has a ridiculous amount of cargo/people room and wagon will make the aerodynamics work.
        PeterScott
        • 2 Years Ago
        @PeterScott
        Argh, no edit. "make aerodynamics WORSE" Wagon is pointless and literally counterproductive.
      raktmn
      • 2 Years Ago
      One small nit to pick. It looks like he is keeping the down-sloping roof over the rear passengers. Some folks complain that the Model S sacrifices headroom to the down-sloping roof in the rear seats. If you are going to go to all the bother of doing a wagon and blowing the aerodynamics anyways, the rear passengers should at least get their headroom back as part of the bargain.
        ElectricAvenue
        • 2 Years Ago
        @raktmn
        I don't know why raktmn's comment is being downvoted. As he says, surely the point of a wagon is more space! See above re: I don't fit in the back of a Model S. :-)
      RC
      • 2 Years Ago
      With a car that's got so much room inside, what's the point?
        Rob J
        • 2 Years Ago
        @RC
        It doesn't have THAT much room. The sloping roof on the sedan means rear headroom is actually rather poor.
          Joeviocoe
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Rob J
          Karma is a behemoth! And they pay for all that size and weight, with poor efficiency.
          Letstakeawalk
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Rob J
          The "middle" seats of a Tesla Model S have less headroom than a Fisker Karma's rear seats: Tesla: 35.3" Fisker: 35.7" That's mostly because in the Tesla, you sit on top of the battery, while in the Karma you sit next to it. Leg room is a different story, with the Model S having an extra 4" there. So, it boils down to whether you have long legs, or a long torso as to how comfortable you'll find the back seats in either car. Personally (at 6', but having a long torso) I'm less comfortable in a car when I have to keep leaning my head to one side or otherwise hunching my shoulders in order to keep my head from hitting the ceiling.
          ElectricAvenue
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Rob J
          "The regular 3 seats in the middle have good headroom". Define good. I don't fit in the back seat of a Model S (head is jammed up against the roof). Granted, I'm 6'5" tall, but it's not as if that's freakishly rare.
          Joeviocoe
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Rob J
          by rear headroom, you mean for the 2 rear facing child seats. The regular 3 seats in the middle have good headroom.
      Giza Plateau
      • 2 Years Ago
      A thought occurred to me today, has any 40 or 60kWh versions of model S been delivered? If not, how could they possibly have delivered 2 or 3000 cars. And what's the hold up
        kEiThZ
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Giza Plateau
        They got a lot of 85 kWh orders. Especially when you include Performance and Signature nameplates. And they are delivering the bulk of all these versions up front. Exactly why those shorting the stock (like you) are in for a surprise in Feb. They are going to book $80 000 per delivery in the last quarter. If they met the 2500 target, that'll be closer to $200 million (price of the car and deposits no longer listed as liabilities).
        Jens Kr. Kirkebø
        @Giza Plateau
        No 40kWh or 60kWh models have shipped yet. But how does that relate to them making 3000 so far ? Most people opt for the 85kWh anyway, with the performance model being the most popular of them all. They probably have enough finalized 85kWh orders to ship at least 3000 more.
          Giza Plateau
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Jens Kr. Kirkebø
          It strains credibility that after the forced 1000 that 2000 in a row would order 85kWh versions. Of course Tesla Motors could be so behind schedule on the battery variants that they have been unable to deliver other than the 85kWh version. Rather than 3000 cars delivered it seems to me that they started skipping all the versions in the queue that they couldn't deliver, not only 40 and 60s but also equipment variants. I wouldn't be surprised if total delivered is still less than 1000 and I would be surprised if they managed more than 2000. I think they would have announced going past 2000. How they have been unable to do the smaller battery versions is a mystery to me. It should be an entirely trivial variation compared to the rest of the car. Maybe it's a different cell and for some reason the supplier has totally dropped the ball for 6 months. A lot of odd failures going on at Tesla. Failures they can ill afford.
          Grendal
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Jens Kr. Kirkebø
          Giza. Look at Tesla's design page under different pack sizes: http://www.teslamotors.com/models/design It clearly says "Enters production in Jan. 2013" for the 60kWh pack version and "Enters production in March 2013" for the 40 kWh pack version. Sorry that this doesn't fit your conspiracy theory. I'm not an expert in car production but I believe you can't skip VINs unless there is a serious defect post production that removes a nearly complete car from actual completion. There are customers who have received VINs above 3000.
        Grendal
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Giza Plateau
        Tesla has contacted 60 kWh people for their deliveries. 40 kWh people aren't even supposed to begin deliveries until March.
        Letstakeawalk
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Giza Plateau
        None of those yet - second half of January is when many delivery dates are due, so there should be some in new garages in the next couple weeks. (although, today on the forum there were unfounded rumors of a delay)
      purrpullberra
      • 2 Years Ago
      I think Tesla should be offering high end interiors for rich ModelS owners to personalize their cars. It could make money, employ more people and use more factory space. But a new type of car, out of the stated order Tesla set as goals seems counterproductive, I agree with Joeviocoe on that. ~50k more for quilted red leather and monograms, maybe with personalized interior trims beyond what Tesla offers now, there would be so much profit income. IMO. Not a bad looking car, though.
        Echelon Bob
        • 2 Years Ago
        @purrpullberra
        You're spot-on. If they were about making money... it's a celebrity no-brainer.
      Samuel H
      • 2 Years Ago
      It would be a great idea. This would enable even larger items to fit in. As far as the roof racks are concerned, I think owners will accept that if they put anything up there, it will affect their range. The station wagon attracts a different clientele than the SUV crowd which the Model X addresses, and would be a Fisker Surf and Mercedes E-Wagon competitor. The Bluestar and accompanying smaller SUV will address the lower end of the luxury sport market which is currently crowded with gas guzzlers. Maybe there will be a hatchback Bluestar to compete with the Acura TSX and the Audi Allroad. BipDBo: I remember driving around in jump seats was always fun and never miserable, no matter how uncomfortable, and Tesla's jump seats do not look uncomfortable.
        Alex Sandros Cob
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Samuel H
        National Geographic Super Car Tesla Model s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmVtfBBYdZA
      kEiThZ
      • 2 Years Ago
      Just don't see the point with the Model X and the CUV coming over the next few years.
        Val
        • 2 Years Ago
        @kEiThZ
        One would think there is no point in the BMW 5 touring or A6 Avant with all the corssovers they have in their range, but a wagon is a different kind of vehicle. If the costs are not too great (and they shouldn't be), adding another variant will surely boost sales.
        Chris M
        • 2 Years Ago
        @kEiThZ
        ...Which is why this is Mr. Chin's artistic dream rendering, and not an official announcement by Tesla. Mind you, that is a very attractive rendering. BTW, the Model X is the CUV - longer and roomier than the Model S.
      DC_Jake
      • 2 Years Ago
      While I realize that the Model X will fill every functional requirement that the fictional wagon does... I love the form factor so much more on this rendering!!! Love it, sign me up! Realistically I'll never be buying either, or maybe when I retire in 40 years...
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