In May of this year, KDVR, Fox News 31 of Denver, Colorado aired a segment in which it tested the effects of marijuana on drivers. At the time of the story, Colorado lawmakers narrowly voted down a law that would have made it illegal to drive with more than five nanograms per milliliter of the drug in your system. So, to determine the effects of driving under the influence of marijuana, the local Fox affiliate gathered up several volunteers, with ages ranging from early-20's to mid-60's, and asked them to hop into a driving simulator after smoking pot. Once participant was not convinced of the news station's objectivity.

Max Montrose was one of the younger volunteers, and he was skeptical about the study, so he brought a hidden camera with him. Following the experiment, he posted a video to YouTube last week, cutting in clips of the new story with his own footage of the test. In one hidden camera clip, Montrose gets a camera operator to admit that the test isn't really that applicable, as well as other volunteers pointing out that the simulator was designed for the CDL test, designed for large semi trucks. He also contends that another vehicle in the simulator acted erratically and crashed into him in the course of his test.

The whole video seemed very damning on its surface, but KDVR has shot back, providing context to many of the issues raised by Montrose. The station explains that the test was conducted by a third party, and though the test was in a CDL facility, the simulator was set for a four-door SUV, a vehicle that would have been familiar for many drivers. Furthermore, the station interviewed a phlebotomist, who stated that effects are different from person to person, and several volunteers passed the test even though under the influence.

The KDVR response basically states that Montrose may have had biased motives from the start of the study, which is a claim that Montrose makes of the privately owned Fox affiliate. The original news report is not very damning for marijuana users, meanwhile Montrose even admits that he "would never advocate in a million years anyone to drive intoxicated on anything for any reason." So, no real conclusions are drawn in the matter, but just like the phlebotomist said of marijuana, this news story apparently affects each individual differently. See the now-viral video for yourself by scrolling below, and draw your own conclusions.


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      Masschine
      • 2 Years Ago
      What the hell does a phlebotomist have to do with anything? Phlebotomists are medical professionals who draw blood from patients for various lab tests and procedures. I've a friend who did it for a summer. The only training he had was how to hit a vein. That's like asking the janitor to tell you what your prescription for glasses should be.
      Andre Neves
      • 2 Years Ago
      Saw this a couple of days ago. Definitely no surprise. If it were any other news network...still, wouldn't be surprised.
        TrueDat
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Andre Neves
        don't act like this behavior is unique to FoxNews and their local affiliates. this is a prime example of modern day journalism. nbc also misleads the people, don't get it twisted. they're all the same. they're all driven by big corporate interests. in this video, they intentionally cropped video footage to support their agenda that "all white people who carry guns at political rallies are racists." FoxNews: the real spin zone. NBCnews: race-baiters. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/busted-msnbc-caught-dishonestly-editing-town-hall-gun-footage/ here's a tip: just stick to your local paper. it's still the best and most reliable source of news.
          GoodLife4All
          • 4 Months Ago
          @TrueDat

          I love your comment because you and I believe in the same thing - Republicans, Democrats, and the media have been completely bought out by corporate interests. 

          Please Google the American Anti-Corruption Act, if you haven't already!

          Andre Neves
          • 2 Years Ago
          @TrueDat
          Perhaps you should learn to read.
      ELG
      • 2 Years Ago
      Local Fox Affiliate is not "Fox News" you'd think a 'journalist' would know the difference
        TrueDat
        • 2 Years Ago
        @ELG
        not a journalist from the leftist autoblog, managed by AOL, owned by the Huff. lol.. c'mon now.
          ELG
          • 2 Years Ago
          @TrueDat
          yes thats why I put 'journalist' in quotes :)
          Lachmund
          • 2 Years Ago
          @TrueDat
          lol a teabag
          dallifornia
          • 2 Years Ago
          @TrueDat
          Or they're just stupid. WIth love, a hardcore socialist who loves objective journalism.
      AngeloD
      • 2 Years Ago
      I'm not seeing any evidence of bogus reporting anywhere other than from the person making the accusation against the news crew. If he wanted evidence of flat out lying in news reports, he should look to NBC Dateline's report on the supposed fire hazard in GM pickups with saddle tanks. They attached road flares before the crash test to ensure a fire. This looks a lot like just another shrill leftist trying to discredit one of the few news outlets that don't parrott the hard-left party line from the rest of the "mainstream news media", like ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, aout 75% of the newspapers, etc. Get back to us when the rest of the "mainstream" news media starts to report any of the Obama Admin. scandals like: the Fast and Furious gun walking scandal, the Energy Dept. loans to Obama cronies, the utter incompetence displayed by Hillary Clinton and Obama in the lead up to the Benghazi consulate attack, and on and on and on where they have covered up for Obama over the past 6 years. Yeah...its definitely Fox news that has the biased news coverage.
        Josh
        • 2 Years Ago
        @AngeloD
        Uh oh, get ready for this.... Fox News is part of the "mainstream media" and consistently proven to be the most biased and inaccurate of news networks. But go ahead and keep ******* on that teet of lies and deception, sheep.
        allstar369
        • 2 Years Ago
        @AngeloD
        Obama won. Get over it.
          The Wasp
          • 2 Years Ago
          @allstar369
          Most of us are not unemployed and are not paying record taxes.
          allstar369
          • 2 Years Ago
          @allstar369
          @LongDuc Sure, you're more than welcome to voice your criticisms. It is a democracy after all. But to blame the entire ills of our country on Obama is no more illogical that the left blaming W for everything. And if you're going to criticize, then at least base it on fact. - Unemployment is now back to pre-recession levels. Actual studies have shown that the stimulus package and the auto bailout did work. Could it be better? Sure, but the bleeding was stop. The current economy is a result of lax de-regulation that occurred under previous administrations, both Republican and Democrat. - Taxes are not at a record high. In fact, taxes are lower now then they were under Reagan. Taxes are the lowest in a generation! - The deficit is a real problem, but CBO studies show the majority of the debt are from revenues taking a punch from the recession, our 2 wars, and the Bush era tax cuts. You can be dissatisfied all you want, but at least be educated with your dissatisfaction. But I doubt any of you will want to listen to facts as you want to stay in your bubble. Everything is a left wing conspiracy to you and Fox news is a bastion of factual reporting and journalistic integrity. I suppose all the polling data they fed you during the election was real and unskewed right? You people are more in denial than Karl Rove on election night.
          AngeloD
          • 2 Years Ago
          @allstar369
          Nope. I don't ever intend to stop opposing or pointing the utter incompetence and corruption displayed by Obama and his administration.
        chromal
        • 2 Years Ago
        @AngeloD
        Was the criticism for "bogus reporting" or was it for a biased study presented as impartial/scientific/factual? I don't think they were being accused of bad journalism, they were being accused of junk science. Unfortunately, a Fox news TV affiliate's base audience tends to be Republicans, who don't generally get passing grades for recognizing what distinguishes good science from bad in national discourse.
          AngeloD
          • 2 Years Ago
          @chromal
          LOL. I'm pretty sure I have a better science backround than you. Just another ad hominem argument from another lefty true believer.
        chromal
        • 2 Years Ago
        @AngeloD
        "LOL. I'm pretty sure I have a better science backround than you. Just another ad hominem argument from another lefty true believer." --AngeloD Okay, Angelo, I get that you are posturing. Now sway me with the strength of your rhetoric and explain why you feel this local Fox affiliate's study was scientifically rigorous. Was is the strength of the peer review? Oh, wait... there was none.
        Klep
        • 2 Years Ago
        @AngeloD
        The sim operator made a car run a red light to crash into Max, then the news concluded that many of the participants did not do as well as they were expecting. Plus they never mentioned that it was a simulator for CDL training, which would explain the clips that make participants appear to be swerving.
      zoom_zoom_zoom
      • 2 Years Ago
      Sorry Ariana Huffington, It appears this Max Montrose character is really stretching things to me.
      Ducman69
      • 2 Years Ago
      Misleading news SELLS. Further, news agencies are often influenced by large corporate and political groups that wish to further their interests and as we all know "create" the news by choosing what to and not to report on, and how to edit the footage to portray the desired result. There is a market for various agendas, and news agencies to cater to this, so it happens on both the left and the right, and its horrible and should not be tolerated. But this is NOT about ideology, its about MONEY, and in this case I believe there is concern by the pharmaceutical industry and others that would be affected by the ability of the people to very effectively self-medicate for virtually no cost using something anyone can grow in their yard inexpensively. And you'd be surprised if you look in detail at monetary contributions and influence how seemingly unrelated groups recognize competition, such as the effect of hemp on the billion dollar cotton and corn industries for example. The almighty dollar > Truth. Yours truly, White Republican
        Ducman69
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Ducman69
        My opinion: 1) Legalize marijuana for all adults, just like you do for alcohol. You'll have loser potheads and alcoholics whether either are legal or illegal, but illegal creates a huge underground blackmarket which fuels crime. 2) People are not carbon-copies, so fixed numbers for ANY substance are asinine. Field sobriety tests are effective and work whether impaired by sniffing paint, abusing aerosol, prescription drug abuse, or just plain exhaustion from lack of sleep, none of which are effectively tested otherwise. 3) Start growing shitloads of hemp again. Its ban has been reversed multiple times during war, and it was once even required by law to be grown by farmers, because its a DAMN useful fibrous crop. Hemp biomass yield (for say ethanol) is far higher per acre than corn for example, and doesn't require as much irrigation and pesticide which is better for the environment. TL;DR? Just elect people like Ron Paul.
        Rob
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Ducman69
        I don't think the pharmaceutical industry is very worried about pot affecting their bottom line. There is legitimate concerns from actual medical professionals about people falsely "self-medicating" themselves and covering the need to seek real care and treatment. We also never recommend driving under the influence of ANY drug, legal or illegal if there is potential to cause an accident This pill bottles from the pharmacy have those stickers about driving or operating heavy machinery for a reason. Clin Chem. 2012 Dec 7. [Epub ahead of print] Cannabis Effects on Driving Skills. Hartman RL, Huestis MA. Source Chemistry and Drug Metabolism, Intramural Research Program, National Institute on Drug Abuse, National Institutes of Health, Baltimore, MD; Abstract BACKGROUND: Cannabis is the most prevalent illicit drug identified in impaired drivers. The effects of cannabis on driving continue to be debated, making prosecution and legislation difficult. Historically, delays in sample collection, evaluating the inactive Δ(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) metabolite 11-nor-9-carboxy-THC, and polydrug use have complicated epidemiologic evaluations of driver impairment after cannabis use.Content:We review and evaluate the current literature on cannabis' effects on driving, highlighting the epidemiologic and experimental data. Epidemiologic data show that the risk of involvement in a motor vehicle accident (MVA) increases approximately 2-fold after cannabis smoking. The adjusted risk of driver culpability also increases substantially, particularly with increased blood THC concentrations. Studies that have used urine as the biological matrix have not shown an association between cannabis and crash risk. Experimental data show that drivers attempt to compensate by driving more slowly after smoking cannabis, but control deteriorates with increasing task complexity. Cannabis smoking increases lane weaving and impaired cognitive function. Critical-tracking tests, reaction times, divided-attention tasks, and lane-position variability all show cannabis-induced impairment. Despite purported tolerance in frequent smokers, complex tasks still show impairment. Combining cannabis with alcohol enhances impairment, especially lane weaving.Summary:Differences in study designs frequently account for inconsistencies in results between studies. Participant-selection bias and confounding factors attenuate ostensible cannabis effects, but the association with MVA often retains significance. Evidence suggests recent smoking and/or blood THC concentrations 2-5 ng/mL are associated with substantial driving impairment, particularly in occasional smokers. Future cannabis-and-driving research should emphasize challenging tasks, such as divided attention, and include occasional and chronic daily cannabis smokers.
      Rotation
      • 2 Years Ago
      Do we have to go through this again? It took a long time for society to finally fully condemn drunk driving. Now we have weed smokers saying "it's okay, I'm good driver when high"? Come on weed smokers. You put up a big front about how week smokers are responsible adults, not just potheads. Act like it, don't write off driving under the influence.
        dallifornia
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rotation
        Do you have any stats on "It took a long time for society to finally fully condemn drunk driving."? My state, Alabama (not exactly known for its liberal social politics, admittedly), has had laws against driving under the "intoxicated condition" since 1911, enacted at the same time as their very first motor vehicle laws. But to your other point, these are not apples to apples comparisons. I do think that some personal responsibility should be involved but driving after smoking marijuana does not have the same effect as drinking and driving.
        Josh
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rotation
        I don't know, weed doesn't really impair your driving like alcohol does. I've driven around the streets high for the past 7 years and not one car accident.
          Klep
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Josh
          It can though. I have driven hundreds of miles high, but imagine someone who is high for one of their first times and doesn't know what to expect or how to handle it. Different amounts of THC would affect different people in different ways which is why I wish there could be more of a push for a specialized field sobriety test for marijuana. That way the amount doesn't matter, but its actual effects on you do. I'm not sure how conclusive the results could be, but I'm sure with time a decent test could be developed.
          Klep
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Josh
          To clarify, I meant it CAN impair your driving, not that it does impair your driving like alcohol. My first sentence should have been more specific.
        torqued
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rotation
        Under the influence does not = impaired. I'm currently under the influence of caffeine. It affects you mentally and physically. Cigarettes do too. But you wouldn't argue to ban driving under the influence of those substances, would you? They don't impair you. The question here is whether weed impairs your judgement, reaction time, etc.
      Armchair Economist
      • 2 Years Ago
      Marijuana can trigger schizophrenia. You should try to avoid that stuff. lol.
        Rob J
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Armchair Economist
        So can Pokemon.
        SloopJohnB
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Armchair Economist
        It's complicated. http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/does-marijuana-cause-schizophrenia/ Key is HEAVY use of marijuana in your teens...not a good idea when your brain is developing.
      montegod7ss
      • 2 Years Ago
      I haven't smoked pot in 15 years or more, and wouldn't again if it were legalized. With that said, I'm tired of paying for people to rot in prison over a plant. Make it legal, save BILLIONS on the false drug war, save more BILLIONS on the courts and prison system, and punish those who are over the limit. Just like alcohol. If you are a do-gooder that just wants everything outlawed, then let me opt out of paying for your ideals to get dealt out and you pay for them yourself.
      windexsunday
      • 2 Years Ago
      So the only real problem here is the objectivity of the guy accusing the local affiliate and Autoblog themselves both of which seem to have a preconceived bias themselves. The headline says "Fox News" when in reality is was a local Fox TV affiliate's news department. If you don't understand the difference between those two things you probably shouldn't have a job writing.
      Generic
      • 2 Years Ago
      Forget personal pro's and cons on the subject of marijuana. I'm surprised more people are okay with a testing people on a truck simulator that haven't even been trained on a truck simulator at all. That would be about the same as trying to pass a flying simulator when you have no ideal what you are doing. Its bad news, its bad science, it biased to one side. THIS is what is wrong with America. More then drugs in alcohol, our laws are based on bad science and what politicians and news medias want to report as the truth, even if it is the exact opposite of the truth. Do I want to share the road with someone that is really stoned? No. Is being stoned and drunk the same thing? No way, not ever. Being stoned doesn't cause loss of motor control, blackouts, etc. In a perfect world, no one would ever drive impaired, but I never hear about anyone causing an accident while stoned on the news or in the paper. They don't have road blocks checking for stoned people. They are looking for drunks because it is impossible to drive drunk. This has been proven by many test that were done FAIRLY and correctly. Anyone who has ever watched the TV show cops can clearly see that drunk people can't even stand or walk correctly, much less drive a car. Stoned people do not have this problem. Chances are, they are too lazy to even make it to the car. It's called delivery time. It would be nice to see a REAL scientific test done on really stoned drivers in real cars on a closed and controlled driving coarse with unbiased motives.
        TrueDat
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Generic
        "It would be nice to see a REAL scientific test done on really stoned drivers in real cars on a closed and controlled driving coarse with unbiased motives." That's why the guy int he video cited the NHTSA study, that found there is no evidence to support the notion THC impairs a person behind the wheel of a car. I agree with everything you said. The media (mainly TV and Intenet) is becoming more and more corporate everyday. Even here at the local level, there is still an agenda, and that is to sway your viewers one way or another. Thankfully, print media is still alive and provides a mostly non-bias product. Sure, newspapers have their columnists that write based on their opinions, but there's far more to a newspaper than that. The best, most honest journalists in the country work for newspapers (not saying they're all honest). This should be a bigger story than it is. It has nothing to do with marijuana (although that's all some people here seem to be able to focus on) and everything to do with media bias. Better were the days when the newspaper was the primary source of information.
          Michael
          • 2 Years Ago
          @TrueDat
          You are right. Manipulation of truth by the media and driving stoned are to different things. Neither one is acceptable. Unfortunately, only one of them is a criminal act punishable by the law.
      ADWilder
      • 2 Years Ago
      "Furthermore, the station interviewed a phlebotomist." Do they not know what a phlebotomist is? A phlebotomist is just someone trained to take blood, not a doctor. They are just using a big word and hopeing most viewers don't know what it means.
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