Bertrand Delanoê, the socialist mayor of Paris, has submitted a proposal to the French capital's city council that aims to ban all cars and utility vehicles 17 years of age or older from use inside the A86 motorway. Buses and trucks 18 years old or older would also be prohibited from inside the city proper. The proposed ban is largely aimed at reducing emissions, though it also includes a stipulation barring motorcycles built before 2004. According to The Telegraph, Delanoê argues that such machines are "the most polluting and noisiest." But opponents of the measure say the proposal would only serve to exclude less wealthy individuals from driving in Paris.

In response, the socialist party has said it would introduce programs to help individuals update their vehicles through a program to swap old machines for new ones. Unfortunately, that seems unlikely given the strict austerity measures sweeping the European Union.

Delanoê's critics, meanwhile, have said the proposal is more likely political posturing than any real attempt at changing policy.


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      Shiftright
      • 2 Years Ago
      So stupid, when you consider that so many studies prove that by keeping older cars on the road longer their higher emissions are grossly offset by the carbon footprint required to produce a new car.
      Paul M
      • 2 Years Ago
      Man, somebody needs to stop these yahoos before they destroy everything... can they not look more than 5 feet ahead of them? Do they not have any concept of what kind of raw materials are required to produce a vehicle, and how much waste and emissions are created in that process? How many hundreds of years of pollution from an old car would it take to match the raw materials and resources required to churn out a new one? Freaking socialist idiots are just that...
        S.
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Paul M
        I think this is a great example of "not in my backyard", or if you don't see it, it doesn't exist (pollution)
        oRenj9
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Paul M
        Way to miss the point. The pollution from operating a car is localized while the pollution from producing a car is not. These cars are produced far away from the city, so their production does not have any impact on the air quality of Paris. Producing fewer cars in Mexico will not reduce pollution in Paris, but driving fewer cars in Paris will. Perhaps these idiot socialists are just too smart for you.
          RWD
          • 2 Years Ago
          @oRenj9
          ...or maybe you just join Mr. Delanoê in thinking that slightly less pollution in ritzy Paris is worth increasing pollution world-wide. Pollution is localized? That sounds like a theory from the industrial revolution. Pollution may be a higher concentration locally, but unless the city is surrounded by a giant glass bubble, it also dissipates into the surrounding atmosphere.
      marspeed8
      • 2 Years Ago
      Some food for thought; under these proposed rules, the following cars are just some that would not be allowed in Paris: 1. Mclaren F1 (all of those built before 1995) 2. Ferrari F40 & 288 GTO 3. Porsche 959
        oRenj9
        • 2 Years Ago
        @marspeed8
        Why would you want to drive any of those cars around in an ancient, packed city full of narrow roads?
          Michael Walsh
          • 2 Years Ago
          @oRenj9
          Paris is an amazing city to drive....both exhilarating and terrifying at the same time. The last time I did it I was in a 1976 Mini Clubman Estate. The time before that a 2002 Mini Cooper S. I preferred the old Mini, because it felt so right. Even though it's very likely I would only end up with a hire-car for future jaunts there, it's sad to think that a classic vehicle would no longer be an option.
      • 2 Years Ago
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      rollie
      • 2 Years Ago
      'Basturds!' At least it's not New York........yet.
      Xedicon
      • 2 Years Ago
      This has "make someone a ton of money through legislation" written all over it. The part that really makes me think that is the "Oh we'll help you upgrade to a newer vehicle!" I'm not an expert so if someone knows please chime in, but I would imagine vehicles that old do not represent enough of the auto population for their ban to really make any difference in pollution and noise. Anyone know for sure?
      montegod7ss
      • 2 Years Ago
      France must be doing quite well for this to be at the forefront of the political agenda. :browses Euro rates: Ehhh, maybe not.
      Avinash Machado
      • 2 Years Ago
      He and Ken Livingston would make a good team.
      Darshan
      • 2 Years Ago
      I'm betting there are other more high priority pollutants than old cars. Someone needs to check how many old cars drive into Paris vs. pollutants from factory emissions etc, then prioritize their rule-making/solutions.
      johnnythemoney
      • 2 Years Ago
      This is happening in a lot of towns all across Europe. Euro 0 cars (generally pre-1994 cars) and Euro 1 cars are already banned in most towns in Italy, and cars older than Euro 4 (pre-2007 iirc) are not allowed in downtown area during one day of the week if air analysis show bad results. Since in most cases these rules are created my local municipalities they vary quite a lot in each town, but this Paris news really is no news.
        56Jalopy
        • 2 Years Ago
        @johnnythemoney
        I just came back from a European vacation, including Italy where I drove a 1975 Triumph Toledo all over for 6 days. I toured all over the place, cities, villages, mountains, etc. Ran three tanks of gas through it and nobody said, "you can't drive that thing here it's too old. In the mean time back here in the USA I drive a 1956 Morris Minor and guess what? Most of the time it's the only old car on the road at one time and I don't think the pollution from it makes a bit of difference.
      Lucky Vanos
      • 2 Years Ago
      Finally a good idea from a politician,should pass the same law here US.
        Evan Hayden
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Lucky Vanos
        You do realize this site is for people who actually like cars, right? If you shun all the cars that were made before 1995, you're missing out on a lot of good stuff.
        Reece Lightning
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Lucky Vanos
        what are you even doing on this site :/
      txdesign
      • 2 Years Ago
      As someone who was born in Germany, now live in the US but spend quite a bit of time overseas on business I get really tired of the "here go the socialists again" comments from Americans. Socialism, the way you think of it, died in 1989 when the Wall came down. Central european governments have a hybrid of socialism (more government services for higher taxes) and capitalism. It may be hard for some of you to understand, seeing how many of you have never been outside of the country, but the automobile is viewed somewhat differently in Europe than in the US. Many of our cities are so congested and polluted that through the use of taxes on cars, emissions and gasoline the ownership of cars is almost being discouraged by governments. Lacking the wide open spaces of the US, mass transit, car and bike sharing programs are the way of the mobility future for OUR part of the world. Please note that I have not elected to turn this into a political post but have simply pointed out that Europe has different transportation needs and solutions than the US.
        TangoR34
        • 2 Years Ago
        @txdesign
        So right. I travel to London from time to time and I can say that I would never ever drive into London unless I have to. The confusion of one way systems and average speed of 2mph is simply a headache and you're better off cycling or take an underground train. People bring up socialism just because the article mentioned about the party is socialist. But hey, any thing can spark an argument on the internet is it not?
        Typhon
        • 2 Years Ago
        @txdesign
        Great comment. I concur.
        AnalogJesse
        • 2 Years Ago
        @txdesign
        Thank you. I'm American, but I've travelled quite widely, and it always makes me laugh when Americans thumb their collective nose at countries with far better education and social programs.
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