Good news or bad news?

That's what some electric-vehicle advocates may be asking after the Renault Twizy mini-car was reported to be Europe's best-selling electric vehicle. The two-tandem-seat Twizy moved 7,895 units between its March debut and the end of September, Business Insider reports.

That the Twizy tops the European EV sales chart speaks as much to the challenges of selling EVs as it does to the popularity of the comparatively cheap Twizy, which has a $12,300 base price plus a $75-a-month battery-lease cost. The 17-horsepower quadricycle is 92 inches long, or about a foot shorter than the Smart ForTwo.

Renault's all-electric Zoe will debut later this year. Earlier this month, the Zoe won the Royal Automobile Club's (RAC) Future Car Challenge in the UK.


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      American Refugee
      • 2 Days Ago
      I've yet to see one of these on the streets of Amsterdam, only on a sales display at the airport. With the wet cold winters here, the lack of windows is a deal breaker. Even the Canta LX has windows!
        • 2 Days Ago
        @American Refugee
        I've seen a few Twizy in the suburbs of 't Gooi, about 15 miles east of Amsterdam. It looks like they're used as a fun vehicle, or as a promotional tool with company logos on it. I see far more Priuses, Volts / Amperas and even Karmas on my daily commute to Amsterdam
        Smoking_dude
        • 2 Days Ago
        @American Refugee
        there are windows available now. look http://www.openpr.de/images/articles/l/9/l91464460_g.jpg as ppl drive there scooters most of the year, this is a huge improvement, although it is no winter car.
      porosavuporo
      • 2 Days Ago
      Very bad news, if Leaf and MiEV have not come close to shifting this many units in EU, where gas prices are crazy and EV incentives widely available.
        throwback
        • 2 Days Ago
        @porosavuporo
        EVs aren't flying off the lots anywhere in the world. Clearly high gas prices are not enough to move them in significant numbers.
          Marcopolo
          • 2 Days Ago
          @throwback
          @ KenZ Very true, a lot of people down vote because they don't want to read objective truth. These people are like ardent sports fans, they cheer for their team no matter what the reality !
          Giza Plateau
          • 2 Days Ago
          @throwback
          The problem is the price. The few available EVs are all relatively overpriced.
          KenZ
          • 2 Days Ago
          @throwback
          Someday, in another life, I'd like to see a better peer rating system than the thumbs up/thumbs down. I'm a huge EV advocate, but why was throwback's comment rated down? Because someone doesn't agree with the conclusion, or just because they don't like that reality? His (or her) statement seems relatively valid. Just because I don't like that reality doesn't mean I should be able to vote it down.
      Marcopolo
      • 2 Days Ago
      Despite the Twizzy having quite a fan club, it's really a European novelty. It competes with motor scooters and mopeds. I like the little Twizzy, but I think quadricycles are unsuitable vehicles for many traffic situations, and of limited value. The true test of the acceptance of small EV's will be the Zoe. The Zoe, with heavy support from the French government, has a range of 130 miles ( NEDC cycle) 62 miles in cold weather and 93 miles in warmer climes. Zoe's “Caméléon” charger allows charging at any level of power, taking between 30 minutes and twelve hours. The Zoe also comes with Renault's controversial 'battery leasing' system to camouflage the purchase price. Zoe's batteries are to be sourced from LG and NEC, until they can be sourced in France. From the production prototypes, the Zoe looks to be an exceptionally well built small car, with a high quality feel. With $ billions invested in the success of the Zoe, it's not unrealistic to say that if Zoe receives the same lack of interest as Leaf, then there will be a lot of new faces in Boulogne-Billancourt ! A lot is riding on a car, that one Renault spokesperson described as “ Zoe’s core market will be as a second car for city dwellers,” . I hope that isn't true, since a recent study shows that very few European city dwellers have room for two cars.
        Andy Smith
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Marcopolo
        Since I first heard about and saw the Zoe it has been one of the cars I most looked forward to. I see the zoe as a car that will sell well in the U.K market, and aid as a catalyst to the market...I wouldn't be surprised if it becameeuropes best seller.
          Marcopolo
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Andy Smith
          @ Andy Smith Andy, we'll keep our fingers crossed ! I'm more pessimistic than you. I worry that no EV with modest range will really do well. I think the immediate acceptance of EV technology, will be EREV's like the Volt. But, Zoe may change all that!
      Dave R
      • 2 Days Ago
      IMO, the biggest reason it's selling well is because of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFcGm6NYayI The only other EV on the market that might handle like that is the Model S - and it's out of reach of way too many consumers.
      Andy Smith
      • 2 Days Ago
      Quite simply, people want electric cars but the price is only for the early adopters and those with disposable income.. Many who see the downsides such as range not fitting their needs would probably ignore these problems if the price was closer to that of ICE. I see this as a good sign, where renalut can shift a few thousand of the twizzy in this current market..
      Smoking_dude
      • 2 Days Ago
      This is the FIRST car that can be met regulary on german roads. it is very popular. 17 HP does not sound much, but it is light an peppy to drive. lots of ppl use it for their commute, and now the side windows are at the dealers. it is not a all season car, but way better than a scooter. and even with 25% renewable electricity in the zesty german grid it pays of. it might be small but it creates an awareness about electric cars. and for the daily commute, why not.
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Smoking_dude
        I live in one of Germany's most populous areas and I haven't seen a single one of them yet.
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