• Oct 27th 2012 at 4:15PM
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Nobody likes getting nabbed for a speeding ticket, or running a red-light by a police officer. And it is especially galling having your mistake picked up by a red-light or speeding camera. But here is a case when it's hard to complain about the work of camera alerting the public to especially dangerous drivers.

School bus drivers in Baltimore, Md. and Cincinnati, Ohio have been nabbed with hundreds of speeding and red-light violations. As ABC-TV reports, parents were in disbelief hearing about how dangerous school bus drivers were in their cities.

Running red lights and driving more than 20 mph over the speed limit was common. The school districts and bus companies, reported ABC, were grateful for being alerted to the situation.


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      mygenericemail78
      • 2 Years Ago
      HA!!! That aint NOTHING!! You should see the school bus drivers in the Dallas/Fort Worth, Tx area!!! The SPEED through stop signs, they SPEED through red lights, they SPEED in bad weather, they drive with NO headlights on, they swerve and jerk back and forth in and out of lanes and between vehicles, and NOBODY cares!!!! The school districts hire felons, child molestors, drug addicts, thieves, lunatics, and even people who are too old to drive anymore...and again...NOBODY CARES!!!! You take your kids life in your own hands when you send them to school in these deathmobiles!!!
      • 2 Years Ago
      Bus drivers do speed, I see it too.My son leaves for work,and I say watch for the bus.Every morning I say this.We are on a country road,But the bus diver flies down it.Wonder sometimes.
      pamiss45
      • 2 Years Ago
      I also was told by my neighbor, who was a school bus driver, that the school bus had speed governors on them. Hard to believe when you are in a 55MPH zone on I-95 and the yellow school bus flies past you changing lanes without using lane indicaters. They know they won't be ticketed - warned but not ticketed.
        • 2 Years Ago
        @pamiss45
        They're ticketed, at least in PA they are
        Jeff
        • 2 Years Ago
        @pamiss45
        Warned, but not ticketed?!?!? They should be put UNDER the jail. When I was in high school here in S.C. back in the mid-70s (at least in MY county -- can't speak for the rest of the state), HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS were trained and hired as school bus drivers, and kept the bus at their homes at night. The pay was low, but it was "pocket money" for high school students and ALL BUSES had governors on them keeping them at 35 mph maximum (as well as -- even in THOSE DAYS -- some sort of tracking mechanism that kept up with how many miles they drove each day, and how long they stopped, and at what intervals each bus stopped -- one or two drivers got caught using the bus for leisure trips or stopping at a favorite hangout on the way home that way). I had one of the highest grades on the paper test for the ttwo districts combined who were in my class (I think I scored 96 out of 100), BUT with the luck of the draw, although MOST of our buses were automatics at that point, I got stuck on an OLD, straight-drive bus for my ROAD test (and I had NO straight-drive experience -- ended up with a driving score of -49, I think). At any rate, SC eliminated student drivers a few years later, but I always suspected there could be "issues" with that. When we had ALL student drivers, NO school buses were allowed on the interstate highways with RARE exceptions (there was a RR crossing in my district deemed SO dangerous -- several deadly accidents there -- that buses going to the school near there took a brief trip on I-85 each day. And, of course, when there were away games or band trips, sometimes THOSE involved school buses on the interstates, but always with adult drivers (and a bunch of parents who would report a bad one). I KNOW some of our buses exceeded 35 mph, on occasion, going DOWNHILL, but not by much. They also had a device that checked maximum speed, as well, and if a driver was consistently exceeding 35, even going downhill -- or especially if one had tampered with the speed governor -- it was SO LONG to that driver. Odd to think, but we had almost NO accidents, altough there was a great deal of "ruffianism" on some buses because high school students couldn't really control other students -- even junior high students. I was the brunt of some of that in junior high, so I know it to be true. All the same, while it seems counter-intuitive, perhaps our student-driver system had some very good points to it. Students could also be punished by their parents and the school. Adult drivers, even if they're caught, at most may lose their job and pay a fine. Strange world we live in. Jeff
      Tony
      • 2 Years Ago
      This is no surprise, as I used to drive school busses. There are several factors that encourage this behavior. People are attempting to survive on a job that was never intended to be a primary income (I had the good fortune to be immune to this pressure). Many school busses are privately operated by for-profit companies who are under pressure to perform for the school district and stockholders. Those companies who make a conscientious effort to operate safely are at the mercy of those companies lacking such scruples and a school district intent on saving money at all costs. The drivers (even in a unionized environment) are under pressure to perform, those who run their routes on time get to keep their routes (and jobs). For drivers "fortunate" enough to work for school district, the pressures are little different--they either perform to the district's and taxpayers' satisfaction or they lose their jobs and the work get contracted out. This problem isn't confined to school busses, either. Safety, in and of itself, is not a measurable quantity, and tends to be the first thing compromised by any vehicle operator. The reasoning is this--"Yeah, I might wreck the bus/truck/car by driving unsafely or illegally, but I probably won't. Most of this do this on our commutes to work, which is why so many go flying along at 80 mph in their Lexi, BMWs, Chevrolets, and Fords. Statistically, you're still likely to make it to your destination safe and sound. For all the failings of school busses and their drivers, IIHS and NHTSA statisics suggest your children are nine times safer on the big yellow busses than if you drive your little darlings to school yourselves. Ultimately, if school bus safety was that much of a concern to all of you, you would ask critical questions such as "can we really afford to cut costs there?". Blaming the school administrators only works in that it is their responsibility to let the rest of you know that safety will cost money--which will have to come at the cost of other programs or at the cost of higher taxes.
      • 2 Years Ago
      WHY IN THE SAM-HILL IS EVERYONE IN SUCH A HURRY FOR WHILE DRIVING,,& WHOSE FAULT IS IT ,????????
      Tracy Turker
      • 2 Years Ago
      The worst spped violators are the police because no one polices them no turn signals ect.. we should write them tickets
      Sharon
      • 2 Years Ago
      Cameras & monitors on school buses, please!
        Susan
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Sharon
        We have them. That is why the drivers stay behind the wheel. They are proven innocent all the time with the cameras.
      • 2 Years Ago
      Mayby this will help with the question about seat beats on school buses! Most school buses hold between 77 and 81 elementary school kids, and in an accident if the driver themselves were not injured they would need to unbuckle that may seat belts and get the kids off of the bus. So if the driver starts in the front of the bus can you imagaine the amount of time if could take to get to the back of the bus. Most people would not want their children anywhere near the back of the bus if they thought about just how long this could take. In our state we do evacuation drills 3 times a year timing these and trying to do so in under 2 minutes. A bus can be totally enqulfed in 3 minutes or less. As for speeding in our district we also have some of these drivers, alot of times the drivers want to get the kids off the bus as soon as possible so they don't have to deal with student behavior issues. It's really sad but just like most jobs some people do it for the money not the enjoyment that they can have.
        lynette
        • 2 Years Ago
        You are absolutely right. Parents should imagine an accident where the bus has been forced off the road and the driver injured. Now you have a busload of kids possibly hanging from their belts with no one immediately available to get them out. Federal law requires a specific strength to the seat frame and specific padding to create the 'egg carton' effect.
      jacob.smalley
      • 2 Years Ago
      I live one block from a very busy main road. School buses use MY sleepy road instead. They can go as fast as they want. No cops. I motion to them to slow their loser asses down. They then stop in the middle of the road, to make me think they're actually going to make some impossible U-turn and "teach me a lesson," in front of 40 tiny witnesses! "Oh, no! Please don't threaten me and make me call the police, Mr. Bus Driver! It would break my heart to see you get arrested and fired!"
        Susan
        • 2 Years Ago
        @jacob.smalley
        Where on Gods green earth do you live? I am a school bus driver for a very large county and I can tell you first hand that kind of behavior from one of us would get us fired. Our supervisors would be on your street to follow up on a complaint like this and if a driver was caught doing this they would be removed from the bus on the spot!! I have been driving a school bus for 11 years with a spotless record. I have been driving for 30 years without so much as a parking ticket and most of my co-workers have the same kind of record.
      • 2 Years Ago
      Everyone always seems to be against school bus drivers. I'm not saying that what this story is above it incorrect as I'm not in that part of the U.S. and I wasn't there when it happens. Daily I have to deal with drivers who don't even know what a turn signal is. I go the speed limit and more often than not, one in at least 5 cars is going 5 to 10 miles per hour over the speed limit. Drivers cut in front of me, call in and complain that I don't know how to drive. I've been accused of using a cell phone when I drive, yet I've never owned a cell phone in my life and have never used one, or a friends' one while at work, especially when driving. I have to deal with drivers who wont let me into their lane when I indicate and then only to speed in front of me and go into the very lane that I'm in to begin with. I really feel that drivers out there need to sit in a school bus for a day and look at it from OUR perspective. And might I note again that this has nothing to do with the above story, but just my perspective on it. Thank you.
        Susan
        • 2 Years Ago
        I also am a school bus driver and have encounter everything you posted and more. We are protected by our onboard cameras and computers from people calling in and lying about us. Our supervisors know while they are on the phone that the caller is full of it!! Oh how I love technology!!
        • 2 Years Ago
        Well put my friend. I have driven for 45 yrs in NC. Sharon is frustated because her child's special needs driver may need a few more classes of defensive driving
        Sharon
        • 2 Years Ago
        Rant & rave much?
      Susan
      • 2 Years Ago
      School buses in my district do not have seatbelts because the students can be evacuated far more quickly than if they are tied down to a seat in an emergency situation where panic is likely. Also, because of the height of the bus, the students sit above the 'crash line' which means they do not absorb an impact if the bus were to be struck by another vehicle. It's a controversial decision whether to use belts or not, but I agree it is safer not to. The driver needs to enforce safety rules which include the student's job to stay seated properly, and that is taught from Kindergarten on their very first day. The employer of the driver should have strict policies and training for the driver's if they want to avoid accidents and major lawsuits. Perhaps lack of funding for transportation in many school districts contributes to the lack of safety standards. But as previously stated, school buses are designed to be the safest vehicle on the road, so children are far safer in them than any other mode of transportation.
      rainbowcheers
      • 2 Years Ago
      I was almost hit by a school bus the other morning on my way to work, the driver ran a red light.
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