Honda PilotThe Office of Defects Investigation within the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is looking at the 2003 and 2004 Honda Odyssey (above) and Pilot (right) over a potential roll-away issue.

On vehicles equipped with automatic transmissions, the ignition park-shift interlock is the suspected culprit. A possible malfunction allows drivers to remove the key from the ignition even if the vehicle is not in Park. Vehicles have been said to roll away and collide with other objects.

Forty-three complaints, some apparently resulting in injuries, have triggered the agency's examination of approximately 577,000 vehicles. Honda says it will begin its own investigation into the matter as well.


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      Schadenfreude
      • 2 Years Ago
      A minivan is the ultimate way of showing that you have given up on life.
        elightbo
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Schadenfreude
        So what is your brilliant alternative to hauling around a ton of kids?
          elightbo
          • 2 Years Ago
          @elightbo
          None yet. I think the transmission issues were for the pre-2004 models?
          wilkegm
          • 2 Years Ago
          @elightbo
          Wow- driving a transverse powered Crossover, because you just can\'t find yer willy is just stupid. Pretending you\'re the great SUV driving out-doorsman is even worse. Oh, and show me super cool SUV where I can hit some buttons on my key fob as I walk up, the back doors glide open, I click in 2 child seats, and we are GONE!. Go ahead and try to get a child seat into the 2nd row when you can\'t even swing the door open more than 30 degrees. Not even a Suburban can hold as much stuff as most minivans.
          Schadenfreude
          • 2 Years Ago
          @elightbo
          Acura RDX BMW X-5 Buick Enclave Cadillac Escalade Cadillac Escalade EXT Chevrolet Tahoe Chevrolet Traverse Chevrolet Suburban Ford Expedition GMC Acadia GMC Yukon Hyundai Veracruz Lexus LX Lexus GX Land Rover Range Rover & Range Rover Sport Mercedes GL Class Mitsubishi Outlander Subaru Tribeca Toyota Sequoia Toyota Land Cruiser Volkswagen Toureg
          Schadenfreude
          • 2 Years Ago
          @elightbo
          I understand that many people prefer a minivan. Now if only they could make giant SUV's that didn't guzzle gas :-). But anyway, I understand your point.
          Schadenfreude
          • 2 Years Ago
          @elightbo
          *Touraeg
          Schadenfreude
          • 2 Years Ago
          @elightbo
          Have you had any transmission issues?
          elightbo
          • 2 Years Ago
          @elightbo
          Wow Schadenfreude apparently giant gas-******* SUVs are way cooler than my 2004 Odyssey that can haul around my wife, me, my two kids, and the three kids my wife babysits. I forgot what a fashion statement it was to drive an SUV around. Look, if I want to drive around a kid-hauler, give me a minivan or station wagon. If I want to go off-roading, then something like a Wrangler. An SUV will never meet my needs other than to fit in.
          carguy1701
          • 2 Years Ago
          @elightbo
          Easy: wear a condom and/or have the wife use birth control pills.
        drewpy
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Schadenfreude
        Seriously, thanks for insulting every parent on this forum....We may not want to drive em...but try cramming 3 kids and yer dog into a Frontier...or a FR-S for that matter..
          Jake
          • 2 Years Ago
          @drewpy
          SUVs don't look cool. Well, anymore than buses look cool.
          Schadenfreude
          • 2 Years Ago
          @drewpy
          Nobody is holding a gun to your head. There are plenty SUVs that will haul just as many kids as minivans.
          mikoprivat
          • 2 Years Ago
          @drewpy
          IDIOT
          Schadenfreude
          • 2 Years Ago
          @drewpy
          I did not mean to insult anybody. Minivans are just simply uncool. Regardless of who makes them. SUVs do the same job and look cool at the same time.
          Schadenfreude
          • 2 Years Ago
          @drewpy
          Obviously many people prefer a minivan to an SUV. I understand that wholeheartedly.
        mikoprivat
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Schadenfreude
        no... a honda or toyota minivan has that conotation!
          Schadenfreude
          • 2 Years Ago
          @mikoprivat
          haha :-)
          carfan
          • 2 Years Ago
          @mikoprivat
          hey mikoprivat...I see that all the ball bearing american soccer moms would kick your balls rather than the real leather.
      nkj
      • 2 Years Ago
      This wouldn't even be a problem if drivers were at least a little competent and 1) put their transmissions into park and 2) engage the parking brake before leaving the vehicle.
        Ulf
        • 2 Years Ago
        @nkj
        Indeed! Strange that auto trans owners need features like these while us with stick shifts get by fine without crashing...
          Al Terego
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Ulf
          "Hi, my name's Ulf and I'm a transmission snob."
          desinerd1
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Ulf
          @ Al Terego Nice one. The car that I used to learn driving was a stick shift. You could put that car in neutral and remove the keys which is same as the situation described above.
      Schadenfreude
      • 2 Years Ago
      You think they would pay extra close attention considering the precious cargo (kids) that these vehicles carry. This could kill somebody.
        Schadenfreude
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Schadenfreude
        downvoting me for talking sense? wow......."they" refers to Honda. Not parents.
      carguy1701
      • 2 Years Ago
      There's this thing called the parking brake...
      Tina Dang
      • 2 Years Ago
      @shandenfreude I totally agree....But there is a market for minivans and I can see why soccer moms ( or dads HAHA) still use them. But I could (would) never drive a minivan, my pride wouldn't allow me to...... I'd get a GL550 or an LX570 something mean and masculine and gas guzzling(!). Money rules.
      dmojavensis
      • 2 Years Ago
      Hmm.. "P" is not supposed to be a substitute for a parking brake. In some countries it is even mandated by law, that you apply the parking brake when the car is parked.
      drewpy
      • 2 Years Ago
      I heard that the odysseys from this timeframe have transmission issues already...
        Glenn
        • 2 Years Ago
        @drewpy
        I hear lots of things all the time. Any sources?
        carguy1701
        • 2 Years Ago
        @drewpy
        Not just the Odyssey. If memory serves, the Acura TL and CL from the same time period also had bad transmissions, and considering the things I've heard about their late model automatic transmissions, it makes me wonder why they don't simply buy them from a company like ZF, Aisin, or even GM.
        leunamme
        • 2 Years Ago
        @drewpy
        It's definitely true. My family has an 2002 Odyssey we love. The transmission started clunking in 2006 at 60,000 miles. Honda helped pay for it, but we still paid $4000 out of pocket on a 4 year old, $35k vehicle. Since then, the Odyssey's now at 130,000 and is driving just fine. I honestly think this generation is the most stylish and sport minivan besides the Mazda 5. Minivans are a necessity, might as well get the funnest one out there.
        elightbo
        • 2 Years Ago
        @drewpy
        The pre-2004 Odysseys had transmission issues from what I remember. Don't quote me on that, though.
      Niko
      • 2 Years Ago
      The world if full of stupid people. Really I don't think I have ever even tried to pull the key out of the ignition while it wasn't in park. Park and emergency brake are just a habit for me before I even turn the engine off.
      Joe
      • 2 Years Ago
      My Pilot definitely has this issue, it will let me take the key out while its still in drive, and then it will refuse to start if left in drive with the key out unless you shift it back in park. Bout f*ckin time Honda did something about it. Mine hasnt rolled away obviously.. But when i did do this.. It didnt exactly take very much to move it in that state. If you leave it in Drive on a hill with the key out and no parking brake.. Itll definitely roll off almost immediately.
      Toronto St. Pats
      • 2 Years Ago
      Wow those years of Pilot remind me more of the CRV than a Pilot. Today's Pilot is so much more butch.
        Joe
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Toronto St. Pats
        That version of Pilot used an enlarged version of the CRVs headlights, so yes there is a direct connection.. Todays Pilot is ugly.. It looks to me like a cross eyed Pug, and far from butch.. More like butchered. I prefer mine any day of the week.
      • 2 Years Ago
      [blocked]
      Patrick
      • 2 Years Ago
      This makes me think of that Common Sense obituary.
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