G'day, mate. And a mighty long one.

A battery-electric Holden Commodore set what its builders say is an unofficial record for miles driven purely on electric power over the course of 24 hours.

Australia-based EV Engineering said that the Holden (the brand is General Motors' Australian division) traveled 1,172 miles in 24 hours using a smaller version of the battery-switching system that Better Place is using in Israel and Denmark. The powertrain of the Commodore, which has about a 100-mile single-charge range, was built by UQM Technologies. EV Engineering is a collaborative venture that includes companies like Bosch and General Electric in addition to Better Place. Its goal is to "develop a proof of concept Australian electric vehicle."

Various automaking entities appear to be trying to get publicity by announcing distance records for certain EVs. In June, Renault said it got a battery-powered Zoe to go almost 1,000 miles in a single day.


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      Spec
      • 2 Years Ago
      Cool. I still think battery swapping is a good idea that will eventually have its day. But it is probably not going to happen until 10 years or so pass. The market needs to grow and standardize before battery-swapping can be implemented.
        2 Wheeled Menace
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Spec
        Battery swapping is just a band-aid for the real problem: batteries aren't that great yet. I think investing and money in battery swapping is a waste of time given what kind of battery breakthroughs we will see in the next decade.
          DaveMart
          • 2 Years Ago
          @2 Wheeled Menace
          Crystal balls! ;-)
          fly by wireless
          • 2 Years Ago
          @2 Wheeled Menace
          Have to call BS. Nobody complains a minivan can't do what an F150 can do. Why the hell does everybody complain an electric car can't go as far on a charge as a gas one? STUPID. Right Tool, meet your job. Wrong Tool, this isn't your job. Use the electric as your primary car and use your dino burner for the occasional longer trip. There's a reason chefs and butchers don't use Swiss Army knives...
      Marcopolo
      • 2 Years Ago
      EV Engineering is an Australian company peopled by some of the most experienced ex-Auto-industry senior management. The company managed to secure $3.55 million in government funding to build a concept EV based on the GM-Holden Commodore sedan. One of it's directors is the former Labour politician and Better Place CEO, Evan Thornley. GM-H supplied a number of Commodore sedans without power-trains. EV engineering modified the Commodore, (a large car roughly the same size as a GM Impala),to fit a battery pack of Li-Ion cells sourced from Korean-based battery supplier SB LiMotive (a JV between Samsung and Bosch into the engine bay and transmission tunnel. The battery packs consist of 210 40-amp-hour cells, each of which are positioned on a water-cooled plate to extract heat, positioned four tiers high at the front and one high at the rear, and fitted with a quick-coupling device to allow fast replacement. EV engineering hopes that the final product wouldn't be much more expensive to build than the standard ICE vehicle. (except for the battery pack). The commodore is an odd sort of vehicle to select for EV conversion, especially since the EV commodores range is limited to 80 miles or so. ( why not just use a Renault Fluence ? ). Now, here's the bit I don't understand . Maybe it's just me, (and in comparison to the august body of gentlemen, all luminaries in the auto-industry, I am am the least qualified), never-the-less, I can't see that Better Place owning the batteries, as an asset. EV engineering stated that the EV Commodore project was driven by Better Place's need to develop a local vehicle. In a nation the size of Australia, with a heavily subsided LPG network (LPG is only 40% the pump price of Gasoline), Better Place is going to build switching stations for a handful of EV's ! The concept of battery swapping is pretty stupid even in small countries, it's just barking mad in a nation the size of Australia. I can't believe that many Australians would purchase a car, and not own the battery. Even fewer, would appreciate being trapped into one energy supplier. But the most illogical thing about battery swapping, is it must be obvious to anyone that with the current speed of energy storage device development, battery swapping will become redundant technology. Better Place is a concept of the fifties ! Long before the first Commodore is sold, Better Place and battery-swapping will be rendered obsolete ! But, hey ! Who am I to be a naysayer in the company of such experts ? I eagerly await to be proved wrong, and witness the sensational sales results for an 80 mile EV, with a network of recharging sites across the continent. But then again, we are the nation who proudly built the wonder of the Victorian era, the ultimate transport white elephant, 'Big Lizzie' !
      goodoldgorr
      • 2 Years Ago
      Battery swapping is a no-go. It cost too much in personnal to change the battery and also it cost a lot to stock multiple batteries. Will you swap a brand new battery for a hasard battery that overheated before. Also there is a different sized battery for every different cars or suvs. There will never have sufficient battery swapping stations everywhere. You have to maintain open lots of battery swapping depot 7/7 24/24 and this is impossible if only 1% of the market have bevs and these bevs only swap batteries once in a while and recharge at home 99% of the time. Please be serious for a little second. Im shopping here seriously to try to get a car that im looking for based on the latest in technology evolution. Stop impeding this deal to protect petrol sales with dubious tecnologies like battery swapping and dubious chattersapproving battery swapping nonsense . The latest in technology was witness here in that site and it is hydrogen. Battery can only apply in theory but do not apply in real world because of obvious different difficulties admitted by folks that say that they need battery breakthrus of minimum 4x a drop of cost and a gallon of gasoline higher then 10$, LOL. hydrogen is 2x less costly today in theory and fuelcell cars too.
        Anne
        • 2 Years Ago
        @goodoldgorr
        Well the impossible has happened! For once I find myself agreeing with you gooldoldgorr. We have now, what, 10 different EV's? And 10 different batteries. Car designers want freedom to make the battery exactly the right shape and size for their vehicle. They will not give away that freedom and limit themselves to a few standard formats. Standardised cells, yes. Standardised batteries, no. As batteries get cheaper and energy density increases, the need for battery swapping will diminish to the point that there is no advantage in specifically designing a car for it and no business in exploiting a network of swapping stations.
        Maddoxx
        • 2 Years Ago
        @goodoldgorr
        I'm sure if there's a market for it, they will build it. Just standardize battery cells and swap as you go. You could pay a monthly membership fee at your local charging hub/ convenience store. And the pay every time you swap a battery. Just like a gas station but for batteries. Every option should be considered especially in the beginning phases of technology.
        Spec
        • 2 Years Ago
        @goodoldgorr
        No, you would not need many battery swap stations & batteries. You just charge a large fee for it and have them on freeways between cities. People would still charge at home 95% of the time. But when they want to make a long drive, they could do it using the swapping stations. And the fact that you think hydrogen fuel cell cars will be cheap is hilarious. Good luck with that.
      Tweaker
      • 2 Years Ago
      Rick is delusional and/or confused. Those numbers are UK gallons on the Euro test and weighted towards highway droning. Notice that same Prius is getting 25% BETTER mileage in city driving but only 5% less on the highway. Also notice Rick does not mention that Combined, the Prius still comes out on top. Of course, Europeans love diesel - they don't foot the bill for oil security.
      Rick
      • 2 Years Ago
      My God that Holden is damm pig ugly it looks like the G8 that helped finished off the Pontiaic brand GM.
        Ernie Dunbar
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rick
        You're right. It looks surprisingly like the new Ford Mustang. Or maybe you only reserve "ugly" comments for electric vehicles?
      Letstakeawalk
      • 2 Years Ago
      As much as I'm not for battery-switching - I like this.
      Rick
      • 2 Years Ago
      NON HYBRID BMW Efficient Dynamics Diesel 80.7 = 67.2 USA MPG Toyota Prius VVT-i HYBRID 76.4= 63.6 MPG I find it absolutely amazing that the NON HYBRID 145 MPH RWD BMW 3 Series not only comes close but betters the MPG of a Prius HYBRID, just imagine what the MPG would be if the BMW 3 Series was a hybrid, using independent British Government vehicle MPG test results. 2011 VW Golf mainly all diesel sales in Europe..................................... 1,552,482 2011 Holden Commodore gasoline/electric sales in Europe............... 0 2011 Holden Maloo sales in Europe...........................................................0 2013 Holden Commodore Electric car sale...............................................4 I rest my case business my lord, another epic failure on GM books more taxpayer bailouts. Not to mention the boring dull bland anodyne Holden G8 wiped out the PONTIAC brand as well. Yep a 60s RWD Corvette Stingray if brought back sitting on a modern RWD BMW 3 Series type platform & drivetrain 80 MPG 145 MPH diesel in Europe would sell like hotcakes would make GM billions of $$$. That would we a great car l would buy a new one every few years from GM, Can't get anymore green than a 60s Corvette Stingrays still loads of 40+ year examples still around today fetching premium prices, something GM lack in Europe today, high residual values low depreciation. In contrast Holden G8s will all have been crushed in 20 years time and totally worthless. So hapless GM will go with the boring dull anodyne Holden with 4 sales a year in Europe continue with billion $$ losses, then scrap another brand like Pontiac probably GMC will be next to go.. Hapless GM will go with the anodyne Holden Electric in Europe costing billions losing billions to add to the $16 billions they have already lost in Europe in the last decade with about 4 sales.
      Tweaker
      • 2 Years Ago
      Rick spoke, "RWD BMW 3 Series 320D diesel that returns 80 MPG." No such production car exists on the US gallon and cycle. Not even close. Rick claimed "VW sell 52,000 VW Golfs here in Europe nearly every month mainly diesels, " Nope. Try 32,000 Golfs sold in Europe last month.
      Rick
      • 2 Years Ago
      Battery switching sounds like a very expensive pastime and a good way of big brother ripping you off. Nobody is one bit interested in electric cars at the moment in the UK they are way out of the price of cash strapped austere Britain, Holden would sell about 1 electric Holden per year in the UK. Holden also make a nice V8 as well they would also sell 1 a year in the UK with $10 bucks a gallon here. What would be nice if Aussie Holden or Korean Chevy developed a nice 80 MPG diesel like the BMW 3 Series Efficient Dynamics 320D for the European market that would not just propel it up the sales charts in Europe it would boost Chevys abysmal piss poor record for poor quality cars in Europe with durable RWD the choice of quality automakers. VW sell 55,000 mainly diesels in Europe nearly every month, whats the point of selling 1 or 2 Holden electric cars can't see any commercial sense in it at all, no wonder GM have lost $16 billions in the last decade in Europe this Holden will probably add another billion $$$ in losses. Why not build cars folk want for a change, that make a profit attract premium prices that would be a new concept for GM in Europe? Whats the commercial sense of maybe 4 electric Holden sales a year in the UK, probably the same commercial sense from hapless GM that brought us LHD Camaro to RHD UK, just 4 sales this year. Come on GM stop wasting US taxpayers money on junk nobody will buy, in 25 years time this might be good idea, but even by then the masses still won't be able to afford it the Holden will be just as expensive relatively, in 25 years time it will be just for the privileged few left buying/driving $25 relative to now a gallon cars & overpriced EVs, and they will want Beamers & Merc EVs. GM need to go up market like Holden with RWD so they can ask those premium prices being the only good thing l see here.
      Rick
      • 2 Years Ago
      How hard can it be to make just one decent Chevy that will sell well in Europe, can't GM reverse engineer a RWD BMW 3 Series 320D diesel that returns 80 MPG. Maybe dust off an awesome old 60's Corvette Stingray to give it a bit of Apple type mojo, fettle its body shell onto the 145 MPH & 80 MPG BMW 3 Series 320D Diesel platform that would be more than adequate performance for me on 50 to 70 MPH British roads, l promise to be a repeat buyer every 3 years, rather than buying absolutely nothing from Chevy at the moment. Not interested one bit in this old Holden crap that finished off the Pontiac brand.
      Rick
      • 2 Years Ago
      Sorry mistake in the last post it should have been VW sell 52,000 VW Golfs here in Europe nearly every month mainly diesels, whats the point of selling 1 or 2 Holden electric cars can't see any commercial sense in it at all? http://www.jato.com/PressReleases/New%20Car%20Sales%20Fall%20in%20Europe%20During%20Q1.pdf
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