Honda is set to unveil its new "Earth Dreams" family of engines, and while the lineup will make its debut in the all-new Accord, the more efficient powertrains are poised to spread throughout the lineup.

According to an Automotive News report, the direct-injected, dual overhead cam powerplant range is said to be good for a 10-percent increase in fuel economy over the current lineup.

Also mentioned in the story is the possibility of getting a 1.6-liter diesel with 220 pound feet of torque here in the States, and possibly a large-car hybrid setup. Will Honda renew the short-lived Accord Hybrid?

The report is not limited to engine technology, as Automotive News says Honda will move to Continuously Variable Transmissions in a much larger way. We've known for some time that the Japanese automaker is poised to go the belt and pulley route, but it hasn't been clear what vehicles will receive the transmission. Not every vehicle will get a CVT, as the report states that "performance models and off-road vehicles will retain geared transmissions."

AN also provided a breakdown of future product plans, which include a redesigned Fit in summer of 2014, with a 1.5-liter four-cylinder paired with a CVT. Europe will get a hybrid Fit, but American plans for the hybrid version have reportedly been nixed. Honda's smallest offering, may also spawn a compact crossover, slotted below the CR-V, but it's not expected until Spring, 2015.

In other portfolio news, the aging Pilot three-row crossover will receive a new 3.5-liter Earth Dreams V6 when the model is redesigned for 2014. Power is expected to be on the order of 310 horsepower and 265 pound-feet of torque, and a CVT is also part of the program, but only on front-drive models. Also included is additional confirmation that the Civic will get an emergency refresh, a mere 18 months after its launch triggered a lackluster response from critics.

Finally, the AN report also dangles the possibility of reviving the S2000 to compete with the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ, but then dashes hopes by saying that its not a priority for the Japanese automaker.



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      CarCrazy24
      • 2 Years Ago
      That diesel can't get here soon enough, it needs to spread to nearly every model Honda makes so that it can finally post some competitive, if not leading, MPG numbers for its class. The S200 model should definitely be revived as a halo sports car. I want to see Honda leading its respective segments again, and it may have a chance with some handsome/clean designs and more energized product availability...the Civic Si or Accord V6 should not be their top sports model.
        Dean Hammond
        • 2 Years Ago
        @CarCrazy24
        beleive it when you see it....diesel that is.....Honda had one apparently ready but the only way it met emissions here in the US was manual trans, so it got the ax. Diesel is a tough sell here, aminly because of the constantly moving "meet the emissions" target, and inherant costs to meet them..........AND those standards are becoming more and more stringent.
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dean Hammond
          [blocked]
          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dean Hammond
          @thor.petersen - It's not only that. In Europe, regulators are more concerned about CO2 emissions. Here, regulators are more concerned about NOX emissions; which are really hard to get rid of with diesel engines. This is why some makers, such as MB need additives to the exhaust to change the NOX into less harmful emissions.
        over9000
        • 2 Years Ago
        @CarCrazy24
        you're not very intelligent, hybrids are the future because we have to lessen our dependence on oil
      Scott West
      • 2 Years Ago
      Wasn't there mention of an Accord PHV during the Accord Coupe "concept" reveal in Detroit this year?
        P54
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Scott West
        This fall Honda comes out with total new Accord with ED engine and DI as well as CVT. Also an Accord Plug in Hybrid is coming with two motor hybrid set-up. Will work on electric only (up to 62mph), gas and electric and gas only direct drive. (No transmission). In 2013 an Accord hybrid will come out. The new Honda CVT is different from other CVT's, no rubber band feel. New engines will have a lot stronger power-band than before and be very fuel efficient.
          carguy1701
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          But its still a CVT. Why aren't your master going the DCT route?
          carguy1701
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure, and I have property on the Moon, with options for Mars, 40 Eridani A, and Alpha Centauri. How much are you being paid to post here?
      zizixx89
      • 2 Years Ago
      i heard the new accord gets a 280hp v6
        P54
        • 2 Years Ago
        @zizixx89
        The new V6 ED DI engine will have 310 HP.
          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          The Accord isn't getting the DI V6. And really, is 310 HP in an Accord even necessary?
      vcarr123
      • 2 Years Ago
      Happy BOTH the wife and I can drive manuals!!! Happy to get back shifting...
      Euphrentic
      • 2 Years Ago
      Come on Honda! You can rise again!
      Ryan Rogers
      • 2 Years Ago
      I'm a little disappointed the Fit will be moving to a CVT. That is a great little fun car as it is right now, with the manual. I hope they keep a version with a clutch pedal as an option.
        peakarach1
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Ryan Rogers
        The GS hybrid also using CVT.
          axiomatik
          • 2 Years Ago
          @peakarach1
          If it's Toyota's Synergy Drive, then of course it is a CVT, but it is a planetary gearset, not a belt/pulley system that most CVTs use.
      stumpy
      • 2 Years Ago
      I'm a design school student. Heck, I wasn't even old enough to know some of Honda's "halo" cars when they were new. But I can tell honda this. You need to ******* wake up and listen to your enthusiasts. If I were CEO tomorrow, my plan for Honda would be... effective immediately 1) Kill CR-Z 2) Kill Ridgeline 3) Kill Crosstour (in it's current form) 4) Kill the FCX Clarity program. Hydrogen is the biggest hoax and waste of taxpayer dollers out there (pure EV fan here and owner of a nissan leaf) In just 1 year start-stop tech will become standard equipment across all models. on sporting models (see 1 and 2 below) it will have an on-off feature. in 4 years 1) Create a Mazda MX-5 / Subaru BR-Z / Scion-Toyota FR-S competitor... call it del sol? 2) Resurrect CR-X 3) Offer a small hybrid... ala 1st gen insight. lightweight ultra efficient, prius C and first gen insight beating fuel economy 4) Implement full-sized hybrid powertrain into insight and move it up to be a direct competitor to prius. 5) Make the civic into a global platform. Offer it in Sedan, Coupe, and Hatchback (both 3 and 5 door) body styles. Have diesel as an option In the next 7 years 1) Create a pure EV that has been designed from the ground up as an EV. 2) Introduce a PHEV version of the CR-V and Odyssee More thoughts on the next gen Accord... 1) Bring back a proper Accord Wagon 2) Offer the Accord in Hatchback form (ala previous gen mazda 6) end rant
        John Howington
        • 2 Years Ago
        @stumpy
        keep studying "design student."
        stumpy
        • 2 Years Ago
        @stumpy
        would anyone care to elaborate on why what i proposed is worse than what honda is currently doing?
          over9000
          • 2 Years Ago
          @stumpy
          because you're not thinking outside the box... if your plan is implemented then the company would sell cars in very low volumes because the products only appeal to enthusiasts.
          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          @stumpy
          @stumpy - Honda already has a pure EV, the Fit EV. And it's better in nearly every way than the Focus EV. The only problem is that it isn't widely available. Honda is coming out with a plug-in version of the Accord sometime in 2013. The FLEX is a really good car, I agree. Nice driver (better than the Town & Country that I normally rent for road trips), but, for whatever reason, has been a poor seller for Ford.
          stumpy
          • 2 Years Ago
          @stumpy
          @ClementZ I'm aware of the Fit EV. I was just thinking something more along the lines of an EV designed as an EV from the ground up, not a conversion or "compliance EV." I'm also aware of the accord plug-in. but thank you for actually answering in a mature fashion. I feel like my comments have low ratings for no reason... I wasn't being a douchebag and I wasn't trolling. I was just leaving my honest opinion of what I thought honda could do to its line-up to make it more relevant. somehow that warrants a -7.
        over9000
        • 2 Years Ago
        @stumpy
        I'm glad you're not the CEO in an auto company, or any company for that matter.
      mike.mor
      • 2 Years Ago
      " dreamy engine " sounds so gay. These two words should never follow eachother.
        Alex
        • 2 Years Ago
        @mike.mor
        It's actually called earth dreams. Dream engine is autoblog phrasing
        Tuga
        • 2 Years Ago
        @mike.mor
        THESE two words should never follow each other - so gay. It's 2012.
      FuelToTheFire
      • 2 Years Ago
      "Also included is additional confirmation that the Civic will get an emergency refresh, a mere 18 months after its launch triggered a lackluster response from critics." Lackluster? LACKLUSTER?!?!?!? If there's anything that the Civic is not, it's lackluster. The Civic is one of the hottest selling small cars out there. It drives...well....like a Honda should, it has advanced suspension and performance parts, it handles well and is fun to drive, it has best in class real world fuel economy, it is spacious, it has a quality interior and great build quality, and over everything else it is bulletproof reliable.
        carguy1701
        • 2 Years Ago
        @FuelToTheFire
        >2012 Civic >quality interior Bwahahahahahahaha. That's~a funny.
          carguy1701
          • 2 Years Ago
          @carguy1701
          The Passat interior is actually pretty nice. However, when every review says that the interior of a car is a step BACKWARDS, I'm inclined to believe them.
          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          @carguy1701
          >quantifying interiors Lol how is it that it's funny? He thinks the interior is quality. And you can't say that he's wrong or anything, because the quality of something is completely based on opinion. There are no numbers, or facts involved in identifying quality. I've sat in a 9th gen, and driven 8th gen civic. And honestly, I can't tell the difference in interior quality. Nothing seems cheaper, or more expensive to me. The public doesn't care. Honda has done this with the Civic, sales have gone up. VW has done this with the Jetta, sales have gone up. VW has also done this with the Passat, and again; sales are up.
        NightFlight
        • 2 Years Ago
        @FuelToTheFire
        "it has a quality interior and great build quality" You forgot the /s tag at the end of your comment.
        Dean Hammond
        • 2 Years Ago
        @FuelToTheFire
        ....?...the latest civic was a half hearted effort to say the least.....at least this shows honda still has a heartbeat...was getting worried for a while.
        FuelToTheFire
        • 2 Years Ago
        @FuelToTheFire
        Guys, the interior isn't flashy or anythng, but the materials are good and the quality is there.
          carguy1701
          • 2 Years Ago
          @FuelToTheFire
          Not compared to the 8th gen car.
          FuelToTheFire
          • 2 Years Ago
          @FuelToTheFire
          Debatable. It might be worse than the 8th gen, but it is still one of the best in the compact class.
          Gorgenapper
          • 2 Years Ago
          @FuelToTheFire
          @FuelToTheFire Are we talking about the same car?  Because I have sat in a 2012 Civic Ex.  I even took pictures of the interior so that I wouldn't forget how unbelievably cheap it looked and felt.  I am looking at one such picture right now, the inside of the driver's door, and I shall try to describe it for the benefit/chagrin of all. - The upper portion of the door is a dark brown/black with a smoothed 'fibrous' texture to the surface.  It reminds me of the taco shell containers they use at family restaurants, basically a soft fibre-plastic mix which looks like pottery. It looked (and still looks) unwholesome and had nothing premium about it whatsoever. - Below and to the left of the brown stuff is a beige trim piece with a disgustingly cheap-looking waffle pattern stamped all over its surface.  When I think of a premium look-and-feel, I envision a smooth matte finish, preferably in dark grey or black...or perhaps the surface is covered by tight-weave fabric or leather.  Beige plastic waffles are a definite 'rental car' look. - To the right of the waffles is another variation on beige with silver door handles recessed in a small pocket.  Even without touching the handles, you have this expectation that they will feel cheap and flimsy just because of the way they are painted (and they do not disappoint). - Below the door handles are the buttons for the windows set in a piece of dark brown/black plastic that also forms part of the door grip and armrest.  This is about the only decent looking part of the whole door...which is to say, "it's not bad". - The armrest portion has a perforated cloth cover with swirls/swipes cutting across the surface. It looks comfortable, but it is not - the cloth cover is very thin and flimsy.  I would not expect this part to last more than a year. The best part is, the whole inside of the door flexes up to a couple of *inches* inwards when you press on it with your hand. I realize that all doors are hollow but at least try to hide this from the user if he/she happens to press on the door while opening it.   The rest of the car's interior is similarly disappointing and I needn't bore everyone with more details, suffice to say that it did NOT feel like a new model vehicle. There was nothing modern about its interior, nothing premium or quality about the materials/textures used.  The interior color scheme is just a mess of beige, tan, sh*t brown and cheap silver trim.  There is no cohesion between the various design elements that give shape to, say, the air vents, radio controls, parking brake, etc...no real purpose other than a blatant display of cost cutting.
        Gorgenapper
        • 2 Years Ago
        @FuelToTheFire
        Your sarcasm is far too strong to be detected. Wait. You're not being sarcastic? ahahahahaa
      • 2 Years Ago
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        P54
        • 2 Years Ago
        Honda is not trying to save the company by introducing stupidly named engines. Honda is the only major auto maker without a yearly loss. The new engines and transmissions will set Honda further apart from the crowd. Honda is not declining, quite the opposite. The new engines will deliver, performance and fuel economy.
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
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          carguy1701
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          Aren't the Earth Dreams engines just the existing K- and J-series engines with DI and a new marketing name?
          carguy1701
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          They phased out the K20 and K23. K24 (hi- and lo-po variants) is still around.
          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          @carguy1701 - I thought Honda was phasing out the K series?
          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          You, whoever's downvoting carguy1701, please stop. Especially on posts were all he does are state facts, such as his post were he informed me on the K-series situation. That was a fact. Why the hell was it downvoted?
        ClementZ
        • 2 Years Ago
        Decline? What decline? Decline from enthusiasts favor? Sales haven't dropped. The only Honda division to see sales drops is Acura. And this is due more to poor marketing than ugly design I think.
      desinerd1
      • 2 Years Ago
      Honda has become a joke. They keep making the same crap they were making 15-20 years ago. Same designs, same engines.
        BEEEAMMERRR_GUY
        • 2 Years Ago
        @desinerd1
        Reading owns you
        ClementZ
        • 2 Years Ago
        @desinerd1
        Yes, they've been making cars for the past 15-20 years, all of which have used engines. Definitely a joke, especially when every other automaker has been doing the same thing.
      • 2 Years Ago
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        FuelToTheFire
        • 2 Years Ago
        What is wrong with CVTs? They are a lot more fuel efficinet than manuals.
          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          @FuelToTheFire
          @SVX pearlie - If you're going to make that life analogy, why not just forget the CVT and buy a manual? Honda hasn't gone full Nissan and stopped making those.
          • 2 Years Ago
          @FuelToTheFire
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          FuelToTheFire
          • 2 Years Ago
          @FuelToTheFire
          I don't understand. CVTs aren't any more horrible to drive than automatics. Maybe it's just because I just plain detest manuals in general, but I'd take a CVT over a manual in a heartbeat.
        P54
        • 2 Years Ago
        The brand new Honda developed CVT's is nothing like what you have experienced before. No rubber band feel. They combine performance with fuel efficiency. It is the new mandated Obama FE standard that forces auto makers to use CVT, or 7-10 speed transmissions.
          carguy1701
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          CVT and perfornace in the same sentence? I want what you are smoking. Seriously, who is your dealer?
          NightFlight
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          7 speed transmissions please. CVTs are the anti-enthusiasts transmission.
          carguy1701
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          zoom_zoom_zoom: I'm not comfortable enough with manuals to drive them on a daily basis, but as far as auto-style transmissions go, I'd take a conventional planetary gear auto over a CVT any day of the week.
          zoomy
          • 2 Years Ago
          @P54
          You should learn to drive a manual then, Honda manuals are still the best out there. People like you than can only drive automatics, why do you care if has a torque converter and gears, or a continuously variable?
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