In the hyperbolic political atmosphere of America today, left-leaning liberals are seen as tofu-eating, Toyota Prius-driving communists, while right-leaning conservatives are depicted as gun-toting, pickup-driving patriots. Thankfully, the real world is a lot more diverse than those caricatures.

Take George Shultz, for example. He served as both Labor and Treasury secretary for Richard Nixon and went on to become Secretary of State for the majority of Ronald Reagan's two terms. Pretty solid conservative bona fides, we think.

And yet, he drives an electric car. A Nissan Leaf to be precise. On top of that, he generates his own electricity with a tidy little solar array. (No word on whether he wears sandals, but we suspect not. At least, not when anyone's looking.)

Now, one might imagine his motivation for choosing clean energy and transportation has something to do with a strong dislike of mid-east oil. They would be correct. "I'm driving on sunshine. Take that, Ahmadinejad!", he states in the video we have waiting for you below.

However, he is also concerned about the disastrous environmental effects our fossil fuel habit is causing. He supports a (gasp!) carbon tax as a way to combat the problem and his car and solar panels are his way of walking the talk. You can hear more of that talk by scrolling below to that aforementioned video. For a more in-depth look at his take on energy, check out this interview over at the Stanford University website.



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      Nick
      • 2 Years Ago
      Reagan Republicans are today's Democrats. Thumbs up for George Schultz for doing the right thing.
        EZEE
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Nick
        Except back then those same republicans were evil, wanted nuclear war, and of course the homeless....and don't get me started on AIDS....
          Nick
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          Yep its complete nonsense, the U.S. is a democracy, not a direct form, but it is a democracy. Or maybe EZEE is in favor of corporate personhood? Maybe he truly believes that corporations should rule the country? Some brain damaged people are capable of these thoughts, so I wouldn't be surprised.
          Vlad
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          There is direct democracy, and representative democracy. Which is what US of A is. It is maddening how people pretend democracy and republic are mutually exclusive. They are not.
          Ford Future
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          Also, not too happy with Reagan's anti-education platform.
          EZEE
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          @nick Representative Republic. The founders had a specific distaste for democracy. Big diff....
          Marco Polo
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          Nick & Vlad, Ezee is right, the Founding Fathers, used the term Republic to indicate a certain type of government. Their concept of democracy was very different than Abe Lincoln's 80 years later. The modern concept of democracy is a product of the 19th century. The 18th century was more about representation, and the property rights of 'worthy' citizens. After all, the US of 1778 was hardly a 'democracy' as we would recognize democracy ! Never the less, the founders of the constitution contained some brilliant and far sighted men who sowed the seeds.
          EZEE
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          @spec My only point was that each generation of democrats demonizes each generation of republicans, so that even right now, we hear that W wasn't SO awful, what with alt fuels and EV incentives and such....but at the time, evil starving glen beck Chimpy haliburton...and Reagan this and Nixon that.... I suppose the moral of the story is (and laughing as I type this), 'Love Us Now, Because Wait Until You Get a Load of Us Later' As far as tax cus go, it depends on the tax. Clinton increases capital gains, and revenue to the government falls. Clinton cuts capital gains, and revenue increases. Funny.... And yes, everything needs to be cut, or we will go the way of Europe. Even you guys have to admit raising taxes while cutting government services really blows. Can't we shake hands on that and then work out the details?
          Spec
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          Well yeah . . . they were certainly still on the wrong side of many issues. But at least they were not batsh!t crazy they way they are now. Today they complain about the deficit but want to cut taxes and grow the military. There is a basic math problem there. (Oh I know . . . when cut taxes everything magically grows. Yeah, we've all seen how great the Bush tax cuts have worked in that regard.) Back then George HW Bush championed Title X and Nixon signed it into law. Today they want to totally defund Planned Parenthood and pass a 'personhood' amendment that couldn't even pass in Mississippi. Great plan . . . let's swell the welfare rolls with unwanted children! Too much crazy!
          Spec
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          Bush was awful. If Romney were to win, I kinda doubt he would be as bad as Bush. I would hope that he could stop kissing the butt of the crazy conspiracy theory part of his base (birthers, Bachmann, Glenn Beck, etc.) and be rational. But Bush didn't seem that bright and he got controlled by Dick Cheney & the neocons with the terrible terrible policies. It all ended in tears with quagmire wars, financial collapse, etc. It is going to take a long time to repair all that . . . decades. We will be caring for all these maimed soldiers for decades.
          Nick
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          Spec If Romney wins, he will pick GOPers for the few supreme court justices who'll retire. In other words, we can give the final kiss to democracy.
      2 Wheeled Menace
      • 2 Years Ago
      p.s. i have friends who fit this category. I know a republican atheist that drives a gas sipper. I even touched his arm to make sure he wasn't a hologram.
        EZEE
        • 2 Years Ago
        @2 Wheeled Menace
        I like high mileage cars, but then I am cheap. Helping the environment, reduced foreign oil....that's cool too. Actually, when I bought my Beloved Ford Ranger, I had other motives. I picked the Flex Fuel version, and the ULEV version, because I knew it would piss of liberal friends. Especially one that owns an Avalanche. (me) 'so.....besides gasoline....what does your car drive on?' (them) wait, what? (me) 'well, my truck is an ULEV vehicles. What is the emission rating on yours?' (them) 'uhm....it has a rating?' (me, shaking head sadly) 'so you didn't even check how badly your car pollutes prior to buying it? I guess you just don't care about the environment, do you?' I just love doing that....
        Spec
        • 2 Years Ago
        @2 Wheeled Menace
        Yeah, I don't understand such types. It is kinda like being a gay Republican. You must really really be a greedy person that just wants tax cuts in order to hang with people that crap all over your minority group. And I would almost understand that if the tax cuts were real . . . but they are illusory. The government just keeps on spending using debt so you'll eventually be paying higher taxes anyway (or have your money become worthless through inflation). Clinton is the guy who was the REAL fiscal conservative.
          throwback
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          spec, not all fiscal conservatives are social onservatives. Some folks just dont see the government as having the answer to every problem, real of perceived.
          Dave D
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          I know gays who are against gay marriage. Trying to figure people out is a waste of time...We're just bizarre at times.
          Spec
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          @2WM The stupid Grover Norquist theory was that he would just 'starve the beast' by cutting taxes. But it has been well researched & proven that the plan totally back-fired. By cutting taxes, people paid less attention and spending actually grew. The GOP criticized Democrats as "tax & spend" . . . but the GOP became WORSE because they became "borrow & spend Republicans". If you want to cut spending then you need to RAISE TAXES. Then people will notice the spending and demand it stop. But I don't think GOP is actually interested in cutting spending. They just like to talk about it. When they actually get power they spend on the military, start wars, help their pals at Halliburton, build bridges to nowhere in their districts, help their pals in the drug biz with Medicare Part D, etc. The only time they want to slow spending is when they don't control the spending.
          Dan Frederiksen
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          you have moments of clarity Spec
          2 Wheeled Menace
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          A gay republican is just a libertarian who doesn't know they're libertarian yet... or they're weird and hate their own kind :P I'm glad they exist though, to shake things up. Now if the ones in the party would only come out of the closet, that'd make for great television :D Spec, you are right about taxes. We either have to cut spending, or increase taxes. Anything else is a diversion. The biggest problem is that a lot of our tax dollars now go to pay interest. That interest gets paid to other countries, which makes them stronger, and makes us weaker. You get less services per tax dollar that you give over to the govt. and you prop up potentially hostile countries that are holding our debt. Meanwhile, politicians on the left & right can spend & spend & spend, and you never feel the impact immediately, and most people can't see the long term, so protest against the spending will be mininal. This is where fiscal conservatism makes a lot of sense. I could go on, but i'll leave it at that for now.
          2 Wheeled Menace
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          Sigh.. yep.. Modern GOP just sucks. Starve the taxpayer for services, and feed the military industrial complex. That's about all they're good for. Look at the voting history of congressional democrats though. They vote for the military spending increases too. We just fed the military $606 billion dollars and half of the 'yea' votes were from Democrats.. http://news.antiwar.com/2012/07/19/house-approves-massive-606-billion-military-spending-bill/ If they wanted better social programs, or to maintain the current programs they have, it would be peculiar to consistently put most of the money towards military, don't you think? I don't vote for either of the 2 parties anymore. The government provides little benefit to the tax payer - that's the problem. It is going to take flushing these guys out to get any change.
          Nick
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          The funny thing is, the so-called "fiscal conservatives" (you know, those that gave enormous tax cuts to corporations, which left giant holes in the budget...which they didn't care to plug) have put the US into a much deeper hole than 'liberals'. Guess who's paying the price for the tax cuts for the rich? It's us.
          Ryan
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          I'll even give Newt a little credit for working with Clinton to make him reduce spending. The problem now is that they have taken things to extremes (tax pledge...) and aren't letting anything get done. Maybe after Obama wins in November they will work with him on getting stuff done and cutting spending.
      2 Wheeled Menace
      • 2 Years Ago
      To think in binary terms of left and right is rediculous. Left and Right parties have changed over time. A Reagan republican might be voting for Ron Paul these days, and putting some solar panels on his house, not because he wants to reduce his carbon footprint, but because he is tired of paying the electric company. Neo-conservatives tend to have this dim view of the environment, but old school republicans did not. It was Nixon that instated the EPA, after all. Imagine a modern republican doing that! I think neocons try to appear to oppose environmentalism because it is one of the few ways they can differentiate themselves from the democrats. In reality, the difference between the two main parties has been shoring up for a while, even on environmental issues. Case in point, the Bush administration was responsible for handing out record amounts of DoE cash, and started the 1 watt initiative, but you don't hear about that.. what you do hear about is that he and his buddies screwed over the clean drinking water act to allow for fracking ( which was awful ). The Obama administration handed out a good amount of cash to electric/hydrogen companies as well, and pretended to block the keystone pipeline, but really just ended up delaying it until the end of his would-be second term. He's also helped arctic drilling come along. Do you think he'll market himself to the tone of 'drill baby drill'? lol. They have both done good and bad. One just markets themselves to whatever opinion is most popular. Think for yourself and do what you think is right.. ( hint: using less energy, particularly in the form of fossil fuels, is right ;) ) Thank you.. - Your friendly green minded libertarian.
        Rotation
        • 2 Years Ago
        @2 Wheeled Menace
        Oh, I heard a lot about the 1 Watt initiative. People latched on to the "vampires" terminology (used to refer to devices that take a lot of power even when turned off) and used it to ridicule Bush and the entire program. That drove me crazy.
        Vlad
        • 2 Years Ago
        @2 Wheeled Menace
        Political landscape shifted so much to the right recently that a Reagan Republican can easily find themselves being a Democrat today. As Reagan himself said, "I didn't leave the party..." As far as what they say and do - yes, it's a little schizophrenic. Good examples on both Bush and Obama.
        Vlad
        • 2 Years Ago
        @2 Wheeled Menace
        Political landscape shifted so much to the right recently that a Reagan Republican can easily find themselves being a Democrat today. As Reagan himself said, "I didn't leave the party..." As far as what they say and do - yes, it's a little schizophrenic. Good examples on both Bush and Obama.
      MBCoast
      • 2 Years Ago
      You know, I'm a liberal. I drive a lifted 4x4, own several guns (some are controversial) and a lot of ammo. I have back up supplies of food and water and consider myself a real patriot because I criticize the government in the hopes of making it better. I love America. So, as an American who loves his country and fellow Americans on both sides of the "aisle", I think the best damned thing we can do to make ourselves energy independent. That doesn't mean "drill, baby drill!" It means we should do what we've always done as Americans. Innovate! It's our freedom of thought that makes us better than others. Freedom of thought is freedom to innovate, thus freedom to excel beyond the accepted boundaries and go where none have gone before. I want a 4x4 truck that's electric with a 500 mile range that has at least a 15 year span for everything between the bumpers. I want to fuel my truck with good ole American sunshine captured by American solar panels. I'm not the only one. There's a new breed of American out there and our numbers grow daily. We can affordably build what I've stated above with technologies already in development. This would allow us to deal with the rest of the world on a purely philanthropic basis if we free ourselves from the shackles of oil and the violent, tyrannical dictatorships who control its supply. I used to be conservative until the conservatives lost their way. What do they "conserve" now? Their power. Don't drill your way out of the hole, it only gets you deeper. Innovate out of it. We're better than oil as a country, let's act like it.
      Grendal
      • 2 Years Ago
      EZEE is that you? Did you convince ABG to do an article on you? :-) Hey, man. You need to lose a few pounds there. That can't be good for the circulation. A few more threesomes should burn a few calories.
        EZEE
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Grendal
        Wow, I really let myself go. And what happened to all the years?
      EZEE
      • 2 Years Ago
      :D I have a Ranger pickup truck, a Hi-Standard 22 Revolver, a shot gun, and an M-1 carbine. And I love America. I have fessed up, now the rest of you....which are tofu eating and which are communists? :D
        Ford Future
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        Since you like guns, you'd better pay careful attention to Texas and WI. The rich 1% in both states are calling public land hunting "communism". It's going to be the rich 1% who takes away your guns. You'd better take a look at the Supreme Court decision: Corporations United, with the lier's title "Citizen's United".
        Dave
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        I don't think I've ever tried tofu (unless it was hidden in something at a restaurant) Falafel is pretty good though. And I like my Ranger pickup too.
        Ford Future
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        Guns make too much noise, a good bow and you've got 320 fps deadly arrows. That's Real Hunting.
        Grendal
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        I can honestly say I'm a Marxist. Groucho, Harpo, Chico, and even Zeppo are major influences in my life.
        paulwesterberg
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        I am a vegetarian at lunch(most breakfasts also). Tofu tastes good if made right. I ride my bike to work most days. I have a CSA share that keeps me stocked with produce. I got too lazy for gardening and planted a bunch of perennial fruit plants/trees in my yard. I think that the free market works well for some things and doesn't work well for others. Social security(less than 1% overhead), roads, bridges, municipal water, sewer. Other countries have shown that universal healthcare costs less and often provides better care than our system which seems to be best at enriching insurance providers and our healthcare safety net services often enable businesses to make additional profits by not providing healthcare coverage to their workers. I have a good education and well paying job because I was able to attend a state run university despite my modest upbringing and parents inability to contribute to my education. Since I went to school costs have increased dramatically leading to less upward mobility and increased income disparity. So I am skeptical of conservative moves to privatize education while reducing state funding. I am in favor of doing long-term state level studies comparing state run and outsourced services in terms of efficiency per taxpayer dollar spent. If Elon can make a lower cost rocket/spaceship with a better launch success ratio than the guys at NASA than let him. I think that businesses should be made to pay for externalized costs such as pollution. Corporations should not be able to buy our elections. Corporate sponsorship of elected officials creates corruption in government contracts and favoritism in tax/subsidy legislation. Politicians who often say they are against socialism end up supporting socialism for corporations.
          Rob J
          • 2 Years Ago
          @paulwesterberg
          I accidentally down voted you... Sorry. I agree almost 100% with what you said.
          Dave D
          • 2 Years Ago
          @paulwesterberg
          Interesting. I could use your description to describe me almost word for word....both in background and views.
        2 Wheeled Menace
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        <--- tofu eating, bike riding, anti govt, free market evangelist.. aka duck billed platypus of the political world
        Spec
        • 2 Years Ago
        @EZEE
        I eat Tofu when it comes in Chinese food.
      • 2 Years Ago
      I point this out all the time what George has done is frozen the cost of his (local) transportation fuel for the life of his solar panels (25+years). Now go out and try and buy some gas futures for 25 years from now. I know this does not work for everyone but it should be pointed out more often.
      Dan Frederiksen
      • 2 Years Ago
      how dare he say global warming is a fact. truth has a well known leftist bias, it can't be trusted
      BigJ
      • 2 Years Ago
      I think there are a lot of Republicans like him - unfortunately "the party" is a bit out of touch and is going to end up on the wrong side of history in a few areas. Personally, I'm a Prius-driving, gun-toting, sandal-wearing, God-fearing, type of conservative. But, I don't really know where forward-thinking, fiscal conservatives who don't really care about social-type issue are supposed to call home, politically speaking. Libertarian party, I suppose.
        throwback
        • 2 Years Ago
        @BigJ
        Yep, Libertarian party is a good choice. As for us fiscally conservative independents, we just want results.
        2 Wheeled Menace
        • 2 Years Ago
        @BigJ
        Yep, libertarian party would be it. But libertarian is not necessarily god fearing or gun-toting. Disenfranchised voters from the left side are making their way into the voting system. They've brought some good ideas on preserving the environment, they've pushed for more of an emphasis on social freedom. It's been an interesting shift and i'm happy to see it.
        throwback
        • 2 Years Ago
        @BigJ
        Yep, Libertarian party is a good choice. As for us fiscally conservative independents, we just want results.
        Vlad
        • 2 Years Ago
        @BigJ
        That's the sad part of a two-party system. Everything is a packaged deal. I don't know much about libertarian party - but everybody who's not voting GOP or DEM is essentially forfeiting their vote. On the other hand, if we want a stronger third party, that's the only way.
        Dave D
        • 2 Years Ago
        @BigJ
        BigJ, If you find that home, holler and I'll join you. And NO, Libertarian will not work. When I watched Rand Paul claim that the Civil Rights act was wrong because it was ok for businesses to make their own decision to discriminate...they lost me forever. And his reasoning is TOTAL BULL$HIT anyway: He says a business has a right to decide what they do on their private property to run their business. Well, unless they also paid for ALL the streets to allow their customers to get to that business and all the public infrastructure to run it...then EFF them! They're using funds from the public trough to survive and run their business like the rest of us so STFU. You have no right to discriminate.
          GoodCheer
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dave D
          Is Rand Paul considered a libertarian now? I always just thought of him as the banner boy for the Tea Party, which is a very very different beast.
          Chris M
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dave D
          Rand and Ron Paul are a particular subtype of Libertarian, extreme non-interference on the economic issues, conservative on religious issues, isolationist in their foreign policy.
      Eideard
      • 2 Years Ago
      How many commenters don't notice economics? I'm retired and my wife will be in a few years. We'd love to add solar and wind power -- we're ideally suited. And an electric car would be terrific. It would require a new mortgage. At our age and moderate income -- not a chance.
        Spec
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Eideard
        Well if you are a competent DIYer and retired then you have plenty of time to tackle installing a solar PV system yourself. It is not rocket science. If you can do electrical work about as advanced as installing a sub-panel then you can install a PV system. I've done it myself.
          Grendal
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          I'm in New Mexico. We have flat roofs. I'd like to get 24 panels on my 2500 sq ft home. That would get me around a 6 KW system. That should be enough to power my house and EV when I get it in 3 years. As I've mentioned before, I want a Tesla Bluestar. The question for me is, do I get it now while there are still incentives in place, or, wait a while for more of a price drop and hope there are still incentives to be had. Difficult choices...
          Spec
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          I put up a 2.5KW system about 12 years ago . . . it cost over $20K. And that was just the parts. I self-installed. It is hard to put up a system much bigger than 3 or 4KWH if you have a typical sized house and you are only using south-facing roof space.
          Spec
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          Oh . . . and it is damn cheap. Depending on the size of the system you want, the parts will probably only from $5K to $10K. (Going higher would be a really big system.)
          Grendal
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          I've been pricing DIY systems with micro inverters and the going rate seems to be around $5k per 2.5 KW with all the extras. That's about half of what it was two years ago.
        Nick
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Eideard
        Not necessarily, there are financing services out there, including Elon Musk's Solar City, that may make solar panels more affordable. Also, you might be able to pick up a used electric car for a lot less than its sticker price in a few years. The Nissan Leaf can be had for $23k at some dealers.........so it might be $10k in 4 years or so..
          Chris M
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Nick
          The Prius has shown remarkably little depreciation, and some EVs, like the RAV4-EV have actually gained slightly in value. It's too early to tell what the depreciation will be on the Leaf, but if history is any guide, the depreciation will be minimal.
          Ziv
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Nick
          Nick, I am not sure that seeing Leafs at that price is a good thing. It kind of makes you wonder why demand isn't greater. I am seeing used base 2011 Volts with 20,000+ miles listed for $31,000 and selling in a week. Those were $34k net price cars 18 months ago and they are selling around $30-31k apparently. They appear to be holding their value incredibly well. Don't most cars lose around 15% their first year and 10% the next?
          Spec
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Nick
          Well Ziv . . . advance up to the story about Leafs going for $5K below MSRP. There are deals to be had. Some old Think City cars may still be available.
        Ryan
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Eideard
        It needs to be considered a safe investment and a hedge against rising energy costs. You can either spend $$$ each month or take a few percentage or less of your retirement and buy a solar panel system that will lower or eliminate your electric bill expense going forwards.
      Marcopolo
      • 2 Years Ago
      Well done George ! Unfortunately, the US seems to be the only modern nation where the Ultra-right and religious fundamentalists have gained any degree of national prominence and influence. Leftist government's in every nation are usually identified as 'big spending, high debt, high taxation' Often to pay for populist and wasteful policies that only serve to create more civil servants and expand Union power. Only the US seems to have the enigma of 'big spending, high debt,' conservatives! The liberal, leftist press is no more honest about, former political figures like George Shultz, than Fox news ! The following is Foreign Policy's, Stephen M. Walt's take on the interview between George Shultz and New York Times reporter, Deborah Solomon : Q) Solomon in NY: ''It's been seven years since we invaded Iraq, and there is so much sorrow in the world. I don't see things getting a lot better.'' A) Shultz in Cal: ''You ought to come out to California. We have problems out here; but the sun is shining, and it's pleasant here on the Stanford campus.'' Stephan Walt then used this exchange as evidence to launch a tirade of abuse against multimillionaires, the GOP, etc, citing George Shultz as "most callous statement recently uttered by a prominent U.S. diplomat" !! The fact that a glitch in the communications link between NY and the 92 year-old George Shultz , is more likely to have created the obvious disconnect between the question and the answer, didn't occur to the 'outraged' Stephan Walt. The leftist Guardian newspaper in the UK, and leftist media around the world peddled the 'Callous' part of the story, never once revealing the context. At 92 years old, George Schultz should be congratulated for his interest in environmental issues, and purchasing Solar Panels and a Nissan Leaf. It certainly puts procrastinating younger people to shame !
      Rob J
      • 2 Years Ago
      I really don't understand why religious conservatives don't make the environment their priority. I suppose they could argue that the earth was given to man by God and is ours to ruin, but that still seems asinine. Jesus would have taken the bus.
        Spec
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rob J
        Like almost everything in the Bible, people have different interpretations. The more liberal view is that god calls for "stewardship" of the Earth and that we should care for it. The conservative view is that god gave man "dominion" to rule over the Earth and to use it as we see fit. Ann Coulter put it this way "We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, "Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours."" Of course I think that's all hooey. We need to care for the Earth because it is the only we home we have and if we mess it up to badly, it is us and our descendants that will suffer.
        EZEE
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rob J
        Sometimes there actually different opinions on subjects. It isn't an either or. To quote liberals, it isn't black and white, it is beautiful shades of gray. Y'all assume that since a republican disagrees with you, they must hate whatever you are for, or be racist. Just like they assumed the movie theatre shooter was a tea party member, the van packed with explosives was set there by someone who didn't like Obamacare, and Gabby Giffords was shot by someone inspired by Sarah Palin (later to be found enjoy abortion jokes and carrying copies of the communist manifesto), you ascribe all evil to those you disagree with. Fine. You were conditioned that way, so I cannot blame you. believe it or not, we do care about the environment, but may look for market based solutions to problems, than government ones (or more extreme college professor views that state we should kill off 90% of the human population by releasing Ebola into the air to save the planet). Yes, there are some odd views on our side, as their are on yours (killing the humans, for example). But just because we may not want a carbon tax, or have garbage police (Canada has garbage police, look it up), doesn't mean we are the evil blood ******* raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaascists we are made out to be. Using that sort of rhetoric brings out the extreme in any side. Luke Skywalker (mark hamil) just said that Mitt Romney was not human (talk about dehumanizing....). No one here will believe me, so not sure why I type....I guess it is because I still have 1/4 cup of Pikes Press in my coffee cup and am wired.
          Grendal
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          That professor is a short sighted nut job. I'm sure he thinks he should be in the 10% that should survive. Personally I'd like to slap him.
          EZEE
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EZEE
          Wow, the censored word was su-cki-ng What does a vampire do after a bite anyway?
        Vlad
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rob J
        Not being a religious person, I like to think like this: say, I gave my children a beautiful garden. If they took a good care of it, I would be happy. If it is neglected, I would be upset, even though it is no longer mine. I fail to see how people can think that their God would feel any different.
        Ryan
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rob J
        I'm pretty sure Jesus walked most places. They did have mules or donkey's though to help carry stuff.
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