File this one in the envelope labeled 'Unsurprising'.

BMW has announced, according to Bloomberg, that it is ending its partnership with PSA Peugeot Citroën just eight months after the agreement to collaborate on fuel-efficient vehicles was announced.

Recall that the dual-headed French automaker recently shacked up with General Motors – causing BMW to halt its fuel-cell-development talks with GM – to co-develop future technologies, and BMW announced its intentions to work more closely with Toyota. Reading between the lines, it seemed as if BMW and PSA Peugeot Citroën were content to go their separate ways.

The bits and pieces of the BMW Peugeot Citroën Electrification partnership that have already moved forward will be enveloped by BMW, though it's still unclear what will happen to the joint venture's employees. In any case, don't expect any of these automakers to slow down development of future fuel-efficient technologies.


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      Dan Frederiksen
      • 2 Years Ago
      it's not possible to slow down when you are already at a stand still
      DaveMart
      • 2 Years Ago
      The short term significance of this may be in stop-start, where Peugeot/Citroen use Maxwell ultracapacitors giving them the capability for 600,000 stop/starts. Since to my mind this is the most effective system out there, I do hope that BMW will not go to inferior systems.
      • 2 Years Ago
      Might as well have something to do with the whole Toyota partnership, since they're the market leaders in the whole series-parallel hybrid market (unless Voltec drivetrains manage to pass them in monthly/yearly sales). Also they do have expertise from Tesla... I hope their in-house designs improve from X6 ActiveHybrid to better selling models. That might boost more confidence in german markets to buy and build more electric vehicles, hybrids and otherwise. Renault already seems to be doing rather well with their electric moped car and pedelecs are selling like hot cakes from what I've read.
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Solar Charged "I hope their in-house designs improve from X6 ActiveHybrid to better selling models.." According to ABG: "BMW X6 Active Hybrid gets [got] axed" http://green.autoblog.com/2011/09/27/bmw-x6-active-hybrid-gets-axed/ Looks like BMW doesn't really take conventional (ICE) hybrids seriously. The BMW-Toyota partnership first of all was come into being for developing fuel cell vehicles (as my post below explains it too). "Renault already seems to be doing rather well with their electric moped car and pedelecs are selling like hot cakes from what I've read." Yes. These are the vehicle segments where battery electric is a perfect solution, hence the success. But BMW first of all manufactures cars and they believe [as most automakers]: the answer for the long awaited electrification of automobiles lies in fuel cells. (I think from the HybridCars article below, it should be easy to understand why). #easytounderstand
      • 2 Years Ago
      As the Latin guys used to say in history: "Repetitio est mater studiorum" (Repetition is the mother of study/learning). Let's see what this news about first of all: It's the obvious consequence of the recent MoU between BMW and Toyota, (which will provide the hybrid tech). But what kind of hybrid tech? Repetitio... (mother of study): News about BMW's hybrid cars, thus, let's use now HybridCars(.com) to figure out this issue: WARNING: this HybridCars article will mention fuel cell electric-hybrid cars, thus, if you have any phobia reading about them, please stop reading now! "The intensified alliance between Toyota and BMW shines a new light on a technology that has been discussed for decades, but that never quite made it: Hydrogen fuel cells. BMW will get access to Toyota’s fuel cell technologies... Toyota is far ahead with hydrogen fuel cell technology. The company had Fuel Cell Hybrid Vehicles (FCHV) on the roads for ten years [with the hybrid synergy drive] .. A few months ago we had it [FCHV Highlander] on a short test ride.. On a full tank, we could have taken it all the way to San Francisco and beyond [from Torrance, Calif.] – no range anxiety here. Fuel cell vehicles have all the advantages of a battery-operated vehicle... and nearly none of its drawbacks. ...to drive tailpipe emission free, your choices are battery or fuel cell. A fuel cell is basically a battery. Fuel cells and batteries use a chemical reaction to make electricity. When the chemicals in a battery are depleted, you must recharge or throw away the battery. The chemicals of a fuel cell are hydrogen and oxygen. You provide the hydrogen. The fuel cell stack uses free-of-charge oxygen from the air and produces electricity plus H2O – water. ...[well-to-wheel] fuel cells involve much lower emissions than batteries. Refilling the hydrogen tank [400-plus miles] doesn't take longer than filling up with unleaded. Short of the rumored battery tech breakthroughs... coming to pass, the only way to extend the range of a BEV (w/out an ICE) is by adding more batteries. This quickly becomes an exercise in futility. Each added battery cell means more weight, heavier brakes, a larger traction motor, a stronger body to carry the mass, and in turn even more batteries. And... it becomes insanely expensive. Not so with fuel cells. Fuel cells can make electricity at weights that are between 8 to 14 times less than current batteries. Extending the range of a fuel cell vehicle has negligible impact on weight. ...Hydrogen can be made in the same number of ways as electricity." LISTEN NOW (the answer to the most usual "argument" against fuel cells on ABG) "And why aren’t we all driving around in fuel cell vehicles by now? There were a number of technical challenges, but as Toyota Chief Engineer Satoshi Ogiso had said last year, the challenges have all been mastered..." http://www.hybridcars.com/news/bmw-and-toyota-plans-lead-hydrogen-fuel-cells-viability-47790.html #substanceofnews
        skierpage
        • 2 Years Ago
        You and LTAW, stop with the excessive copy and pasting!
          • 2 Years Ago
          @skierpage
          @skierpage You mean: "excessive copy and pasting = = anything about fuel cells / reality = = instead of the endless and 'righteous' praising of BEVs skierpage, you should wake up already, as we [LTAW and me / and some others too] are just 'copy/pasting' about the real actions of automakers (as a wake-up-call in the unconditional BEV-love ocean), instead of just posting perpetually about the purple haze dreams of some guys on ABG. #wake-up-call
      Dan Frederiksen
      • 2 Years Ago
      and that looks a lot like a freemason handshake, specifically of the rank of master mason.
        Dave D
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Dan Frederiksen
        I think it's just a French guy and a German guy who don't like each other much pretending to shake hands I've spent plenty of time with those two nationalities in the same room doing business when they were part of the SAME company and they couldn't stand each other. What would we expect here? :-)
          Dave D
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dave D
          Me a freemason? LOL Dan, I come from a long line of southern rednecks and trailer trash. The closest I'd get to being a free mason would be if they hired me to mow the lawn.
          Dan Frederiksen
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dave D
          ok, but freemasons are quite real. you can see their satanic club houses everywhere. and yes it is indeed satanism. if you think that's silly then you haven't looked into it
          Dan Frederiksen
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dave D
          a normal handshake would be expected no matter how much they might dislike eachother. they also smile. are you a freemason Dave?
        Spec
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Dan Frederiksen
        I becoming convince that Dan is crazier than gorr . . . he's got a conspiracy theory for everything.
          Dan Frederiksen
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          yeah conspiracies are never real... your intelligence is not impressive
          Dan Frederiksen
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          give us Barabbas
          Marco Polo
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Spec
          Spec DF, was always crazier than Gorr, who's only well,....um... a little eccentric !
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