The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is evidently keeping itself very busy these days, as the federal agency has just announced it is launching or renewing investigations into Toyota, Honda and General Motors crossovers.

2006-2008 model year Toyota RAV4 crossovers are under review for allegations of rear tie-rod rust which can result in failure. NHTSA also said it is probing some 35 complaints about 2005 Honda Pilot models with inappropriate activation of the vehicles' stability control system. The alleged malfunction can cause the vehicles to slow down or stop in bad unsafe situations. At the moment, NHTSA is reviewing a petition regarding the Pilot issue, a move that will determine whether it needs to open a full-blown investigation.

In addition, Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia three-row crossovers built in 2007-2009 are getting looked at for "loss of low beam headlamp" function. One complainant said the wiring in his Outlook overheated and melted. NHTSA says it has received 415 complaints about the problem and a GM spokesman confirmed that the automaker already started a "Customer Satisfaction Program" in December to address the issue.

Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons tells the The Detroit News, "We will fully cooperate with its [NHTSA] investigation." At least four of the complaints about the RAV4 claimed the tie rod failed at speeds above 35 mph, resulting in a loss of control. The NHTSA investigation summary states, "Pictures provided by some complainants show the wheel adjacent to the failed component severely out of wheel alignment with respect to toe and camber."

No word on the timeframe for these investigations before it can be determined whether or not a recall is warranted.


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      HAT1701D
      • 2 Years Ago
      What the heck is a "rear tie rod"? Does the Toyota RAV 4 have 4 wheel steering and require tie rods on the rear wheels?
      Gordon Goede
      • 2 Years Ago
      It sure would be nice to know what a "crossover" is! I mean, a simple definition would be nice. And in the opening paragraph would be even better! Doesn't that seem logical?
        daply
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Gordon Goede
        Gordon, a crossover is basically an SUV body on a car chassis. I am really surprised Nissan isn't on this list, the problems with the seats in the Murano are infamous, major safety issue that neither the US Government or Nissan seem to care about.
      MAX
      • 2 Years Ago
      Even all the Toyota leghumpers have to admit nothing rusts like a Toyota
        miketim1
        • 2 Years Ago
        @MAX
        My 92 camry shows no signs on rust and its about to be 20 years old. Beside a few rusted bolts which are a given everything else is fine. Runs like a champ.
          MAX
          • 2 Years Ago
          @miketim1
          TOYOTA TRUCKS RUST IN EVEN THE SOUTH! DODGE RAM IS CANDA'S LONGEST LASTING TRUCK! http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/toyota-tundra-recall-110-000-trucks-recalled-frame-corrosion-2525363.html
          Chris
          • 2 Years Ago
          @miketim1
          http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/12/retire-us-dana-idUSTRE70B7KZ20110112 Max, Dana payed Toyota $25 million to ToMoCo in a settlement for making frames that weren't to Toyota's specs. That's why they rusted. If you still wish to go after Toyota over this, will you go after all the automakes for getting bad parts from their parts suppliers? Is it Toyota's fault that Dana didn't make the frames to their specs? If you believe that, I'd like to know what you think about the Firestone tire recall. I believe that everyone has at least some responsibility, but I can't hold much against Toyota, Ford, or any other car makers for their parts supplier's failure. If I did that, I could say that it's the customers fault for buying bad vehicles. If your vehicle has issues, is it the buyers fault for buying defective products?
          • 2 Years Ago
          @miketim1
          [blocked]
        cashoeinn
        • 2 Years Ago
        @MAX
        well wait until the 2011 and 2012 start to find all of the problems that come from post tsunami part incorporated into those years productions.
      • 2 Years Ago
      This is why I don't buy Japanese cars.
        • 2 Years Ago
        [blocked]
          • 2 Years Ago
          I don't buy any junk. I buy American. Stop asking me such loser questions you Japan car cheerleader.
          guyverfanboy
          • 2 Years Ago
          A lot of those so called Japanese cars are built in America by Americans. So your buy American mantra won't fly.
          jtav2002
          • 2 Years Ago
          guyverfanboy - no sense in pointing it out. The companies country of origin is all that matters. Doesn't matter where their car was made, as long as it has an American emblem on it. It's amazing that many of the good American products now are a result of global platforms and cars that are sold elsewhere in the world. What if those countries just stopped buying these cars? Good luck sustaining our industry then. We'd have all garbage. Baffling that it's okay for other countries to buy American branded products, but if we want to buy something else, it's the end of the world.
        clquake
        • 2 Years Ago
        So GMC is Japanese?
          bigurnge
          • 2 Years Ago
          @clquake
          No, can't say that or the White House will get all upitty about it.
      bubciak
      • 2 Years Ago
      Every IDIOTA drives TOYOTA. :))))))))
        • 2 Years Ago
        @bubciak
        [blocked]
      MAX
      • 2 Years Ago
      Toyota and rust are old friends. Just "google" Toyota trucks and rust.
        • 2 Years Ago
        @MAX
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        carfan
        • 2 Years Ago
        @MAX
        toyota and the uneducated american public are good friends
        • 2 Years Ago
        @MAX
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          Rayvan
          • 2 Years Ago
          Toyota is the only company that has had to buy back their "trucks" to condemn them.
          Nick
          • 2 Years Ago
          @ Rayven Yes, Toyota gives thounsands of dollars to owners of old, rusty trucks with 200,000 miles. Ford, GM and Dodge, owners get paid nothing to continue watching their sunken ships be washed away with the rain.
          jtav2002
          • 2 Years Ago
          Rayvan - I like how you say that as a BAD thing. They acknowledged that the supplier (not a part they made, but you know Dana, an American company) gave them bad frames which rusted. They chose to either replace the frames, or buy back the truck altogether for more than it was worth. Fail to see how that is a negative thing.
      Saint Sinner
      • 2 Years Ago
      So many problems with Rav4 2006 it's crazy no more Toyota for me: intermediate shaft problem, water pump leaking, radio/cd broken, AC/heater fans broken, excessive rust on rims and all that before 70000 miles and now new think ...ouch :(
        caddy-v
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Saint Sinner
        Seeing the light is wonderful. It's too bad knowing how many others continue to lie to themselves about Toyota's quality. I guess if you keep saying it often enough, it becomes true.
      Klinkster
      • 2 Years Ago
      415 complaints out of 250,000 GM vehicles; 35 out of 142,000 on Honda vehicles; 7 out of 460,000 Toyota vehicles. One of these is not like the others...
        Stew
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Klinkster
        shhh.. you are going to take away the wind out of the trolls.
        brandon
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Klinkster
        Shhhhhh. You're going to get downranked for posting something bad about GM. As I have said on numerous occasions, GM went into bankruptcy because for a very long time they have been making crappy cars. The Govco should have never given them one freaking penny that we will never see a dime of. This isn't just management, it's the unions, the middle management and all parts in between. But when I hear this BS about the run away "toyota's" I have to laugh. Because they are all idiots. It couldn't even be replicated by the federal government, so I have a hard time believing that it ever happened. GM makes crappy cars like they always have and we need to save them, toyota has an unproven failure and we need to investigate and mug sling until it is proven false. Then after they are proven not guilty, we have to just not cover that part at all because they are not an "american" company. (nevermind the fact that they have just about as many cars made "here" as the domestic companies.) Sorry for the tirade, it just irks me to no end that people won't see whats right in front of their faces. I love icons like the Vette and Camaro, but the company overall is just down right $h!tty. They wont stand behind their cars, which I can't blame them because I wouldn't either, because they make a horrible product. You want to see innovation, look east. It doesn't matter how far, Germany and Japan beat us in every aspect of building a car. Trucks, that a different story, but cars it is not.
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Klinkster
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      Southern Racer
      • 2 Years Ago
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Toyota can't build a car better than pure crap!
      guyverfanboy
      • 2 Years Ago
      Despite all these recalls, I haven't had many issues with my 2008 Rav4.
      miketim1
      • 2 Years Ago
      That rav-4 is still good looking after all these years
      Y Walsh RN
      • 2 Years Ago
      1996 Toyota Corolla with 120,400 miles. Never any problems, no rust. Runs great & still going.
        danno
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Y Walsh RN
        1999 silverado with 158 thousand and still on the original battery up untill three months ago..sp spare me your bs on asian rides..
          Stryyder56
          • 2 Years Ago
          @danno
          Okay Danno, I just had to answer you. Here we go. 1985, bought brand new Chevy Celebrity. Ten miles from the dealership and the check engine light came on, car stopped. Had to be towed. That was just the beginning of my nightmares with this car. I had a stack of shop receipts all from the dealer. MAF failures, belt failures, check engine light coming on, and the car not running. Finally got rid of it after two years. Then made the same mistake with a 1987 Pontiac STE. Even more shop slips, that car spent more time at the dealership than in my garage. Sorry Danno, each one was a piece of crap. I did buy a 1987 Nissan Sentra the same year I purchase the STE. Guess which one I had longer................had the Nissan until 1998, with 164K on the odo. The STE went to the junk yard with just 65 K on it. So, there for YOUR BS
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