And thus the mid-cycle product refresh – so common to computers and cellphones – comes around again to GM's plug-in hybrid.

The new EPA sticker for the 2013 Chevrolet Volt has been released, and with it comes a fresh set of numbers. The highlights are an improved all-electric range and miles per gallon equivalent (MPGe) rating: 38 miles and 98 MPGe – that's three miles of additional electric range and five more MPGe than last year. GM said in a statement today that "minor changes to the material composition of the battery cell chemistry" and a boost in overall battery capacity from 16 kWh to 16.5 are responsible for the increase. Allowing the car to use more of that capacity – 10.8 kWh now, up from 10.3 before – also helps. Unsurprisingly, the bigger battery also gives the Volt a slightly longer recharge time.

As previously reported, the 2013 Volt also gets a new "EV Hold Mode" that forces the car to burn gas and "hold" the energy in the battery for later use. "EV Hold Mode" is available on the Volt's European sister vehicle, the Opel Ampera, and early Volt buyers could sort of force their cars into this operation by engaging "Mountain Mode." Visually, the 2013 Volt will also lose the black roof and trunk backing, using the main body color for those parts (GM has yet to release new images showing this development) and gain an available lane-departure warning system.

You can compare the 2013 Volt sticker above to the 2011 model here. The important numbers from the first Volt are: 93 MPGe, 36 kWh per 100 miles, 37 mpg in gas-only mode and a 35 mile all-electric range. For 2012, the Volt improved in one category: 94 MPGe. All others remain the same.

As expected, the Volt will also be available with a special low-emissions package for California and New York giving drivers access to the states' HOV lanes with solo occupancy. For details on all 2013 Volt developments, check out the official press verbiage by scrolling below.
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2013 Chevrolet Volt Boosts EV Range to 38 Miles
Battery storage capacity increase and cell chemistry changes enable improved range


2012-06-07

DETROIT – The all-electric vehicle range of the 2013 Chevrolet Volt will be 38 miles on a single charge, providing owners with a three-mile EV range increase from the 2012 model. The miles per gallon equivalent (MPGe) will increase from 94 miles to 98 miles and the total range, including extended range operation, will be 380 miles.

Based on real-world experience by Volt owners since the vehicle launched in late 2010, engineers made minor changes to the material composition of the battery cell chemistry, resulting in improved performance and durability. Manganese spinel chemistry remains the foundation for the Volt's battery system, but the amount of each material has been slightly modified to provide better life performance.

"The best way to explain what we've done at the cell level is to compare it to a cake batter recipe. Sometimes if you use more sugar and less vanilla you get a better tasting cake. We've done some work at the cell level to modify the 'ingredients' to make a better end result," said Bill Wallace, GM director of Global Battery Systems Engineering. "This attention to detail will allow our customers to experience more pure EV range, which is the true benefit of owning a Volt."

In addition, the total storage capacity of the Volt battery has been increased from 16 kWh of energy to 16.5 kWh, and engineers have expanded the state-of-charge window to use 10.8 kWh of the total battery energy – up from 10.3 kWh used in the 2012 model. The battery system maintains a buffer to ensure battery life, but that buffer has been reduced.

The improved EV range capability will result in slight increases to the Volt's charge times. A full recharge using a 120V could take 10.5 hours and 4.25 hours using a 240V charging unit.

Cells with improved chemistry have accumulated 150,000 test miles to date. The tests have revealed less battery degradation, the ability to withstand temperatures as low as -30 degrees Celsius and less impact by energy throughput.

For the first 38 miles, the Volt can drive gas and tailpipe-emissions free using a full charge of electricity stored in its 16.5-kWh lithium-ion battery. When the Volt's battery runs low, a gas-powered engine/generator seamlessly operates to extend the driving range another 344 miles on a full tank. Volt owners have travelled more than 65 million miles since the vehicle launched late 2010. Roughly two-thirds of those miles were powered by grid electricity.

Founded in 1911 in Detroit, Chevrolet is now one of the world's largest car brands, doing business in more than 140 countries and selling more than 4 million cars and trucks a year. Chevrolet provides customers with fuel-efficient vehicles that feature spirited performance, expressive design and high quality. More information on Chevrolet models can be found at www.chevrolet.com.


New for 2013

Increase in EPA-estimated EV range of three miles, to 38 miles
Hold drive mode in addition to Normal, Sport and Mountain drive modes, allows owners to conserve battery charge for use in the most efficient manner
Low-emissions package (e-AT-PZEV) makes Volt eligible for single-occupancy HOV-lane access in California and New York
Body color roof and liftgate
Pebble Beige premium cloth seats
Pebble Beige leather-appointed seats with suede inserts
Available audio system with GPS-based navigation, AM/FM/Sirius XM stereo with CD player and MP3 playback capability, navigation and USB port, seven-inch-diagonal touch-screen display and Radio Data System
Removable rear center armrest with storage included in available Premium Trim Package
Comfort Package includes heated driver and front passenger cloth seats and leather-wrapped steering wheel
Available Safety Package 1 includes auto-dimming inside rearview mirror, rear park assist and rear vision camera
Available Safety Package 2 includes front park assist, forward collision alert and lane departure warning systems


Product Overview
CHEVROLET VOLT: THE INNOVATIVE ANTIDOTE TO PAIN AT THE PUMP

The Chevrolet Volt has established an entirely new segment in the global automotive market. It is a five-door, four-passenger car designed to provide the fuel-saving and emissions-reducing benefits of an electric vehicle without the range limitations associated with all-electric vehicles.

With numerous awards that include prestigious North American Car of the Year and European Car of the Year honors – as well as a loyal and passionate customer base – the innovative Volt is bringing new customers into Chevrolet dealerships.

For 2013, Volt offers an e-AT-PZEV specification that earns the Volt a coveted "green sticker" for single-occupancy HOV lane access in California and New York. Volt also adds a Hold mode that allows owners to direct when the Volt uses its gas generator. This feature helps save money because owners who mix city and highway driving can save the battery charge for city travel, where the Volt's EV mode operates most efficiently.

Other updates for 2013 include a body-color roof and decklid, available lane departure warning system and forward collision alert crash-avoidance technologies, as well as GPS-enabled navigation capabilities to Chevy's MyLink infotainment system.

A new exterior color, Silver Topaz Metallic, and new interior color, Pebble Beige, also join the Volt lineup.

The Volt is available throughout the U.S., with additional exports to Europe, China and Canada.

The Volt is built at General Motors' Detroit-Hamtramck assembly plant, home to the largest photovoltaic solar array in southeast Michigan. The facility can use the 516 kilowatts of solar energy generated by the 264,000-square-foot array (24,526 sq. m) to charge up to 150 Volts or help power the plant.

Volt propulsion system

The heart of the Chevrolet Volt is its Voltec propulsion system, which combines pure electric drive and an efficient, range-extending engine, giving the Volt up to 382 total miles (615 km) of range.

The Volt's long-life battery consists of a 5.5-foot (1.6 m), 435-pound (198.1 kg) T-shaped, 16 kWh lithium-ion battery pack. It supplies energy to an advanced, 111-kW (149-hp) electric drive unit to propel the vehicle. Using only the energy stored in the battery, the Volt delivers an EPA-estimated 38 miles (61 km) of fuel- and tailpipe emissions-free electric driving, depending on terrain, driving techniques and temperature.

The Volt battery is covered by an eight-year/100,000-mile warranty. When the battery energy is depleted, the Volt seamlessly transitions to extended-range mode. Power is inverted from a technically advanced, 1.4L 84-hp (63-kW) gasoline-powered onboard engine to the electric drive unit to provide up to 344 (553 km) additional miles of range.

Charging the Volt's battery is simple and intuitive, and can be done with a 120V conventional household electrical outlet, or a dedicated 240V charging station. The vehicle is completely rechargeable in about four hours using a 240V outlet and 10 to 16 hours in a 120V outlet (depending on charging level and outside temperature).

Once the vehicle is plugged in, owners can schedule either immediate or delayed charges, even coordinating charging according to departure time or when electricity rates are lower. Owners also can manage and monitor the Volt remotely via computer on MyVolt.com; or via a smartphone through RemoteLink, an exclusive smartphone application powered by OnStar.

Volt design and exterior features

Working closely with aerodynamicists in GM's wind tunnel to shape the Volt, design and engineering teams developed the most aerodynamic vehicle in Chevrolet's history. By reducing the energy needed to overcome air resistance, Volt aerodynamicists contributed an estimated eight miles (5 km) of electric range, and 50 miles (80 km) of extended range.

The Volt's rounded and flush front fascia, tapered corners and grille enable air to move easily around the car to reduce drag. In the rear, sharp edges and a carefully designed spoiler control air flow. A n aggressive rake on the windshield and back glass also help reduce turbulence and drag.

Additional exterior features include:

Body-color roof and liftgate
Daytime running lamps with LED illumination
LED center high-mounted stop lamp
Heated and power-adjustable mirrors with integrated turn signal indicators
Seventeen-inch five-spoke painted aluminum wheels are standard
Seventeen-inch five-spoke forged, polished aluminum wheels and 17-inch sport alloy wheels with black inserts are available
Pedestrian-friendly alert, featuring a driver-activated horn chirp
Exterior color choices: Silver Ice Metallic, Summit White, Black, Crystal Red Tintcoat, White Diamond Tricoat, Viridian Joule, Cyber Gray Metallic, Blue Topaz Metallic and (new) Silver Topaz Metallic.
Volt interior

Inside, the Volt offers the space, comfort, convenience and safety features customers expect in a premium five-door sedan – including storage compartments and 40/40 rear-folding seats. It also delivers them in a variety of interior color, lighting and trim options unlike any offered before on a Chevrolet sedan.

Two seven-inch, high-resolution full-color screens are featured: One is a reconfigurable graphic cluster display and the other, in the center stack, features a touch-screen display, touch-control switches and integrated shifter.

Standard interior features include:

Chevrolet MyLink includes Bluetooth streaming audio for music and smartphones, voice recognition for phone, music and radio, compatible with Pandora and Stitcher with Gracenote (playlist and album art) capability
Color touch AM/FM stereo with CD player and MP3 playback, includes seven-inch-diagonal color touch-screen display
USB audio interface port
SiriusXM Satellite Radio with a three-month trial
Bluetooth phone connectivity
Automatic climate control
Keyless access and ignition
MyVolt.com vehicle connectivity
Three auxiliary 12-volt power outlets – one in the front center console, one in the rear console and one in the upper instrument panel storage bin
Remote vehicle starting system
Universal Home Remote
Premium cloth seats
Front bucket seats with reclining seatbacks and adjustable head restraints
Interior trim combinations include: Jet Black seat with Ceramic White accents, Jet Black seats with Dark accents, Jet Black and White seats with Ceramic White accents, Jet Black and Spice Red seats with Dark accents, and Pebble Beige seats with Dark accents.
Available interior features include:

Audio system with navigation includes color touch AM/FM stereo with CD player and MP3 playback capability, GPS navigation, USB port, seven-inch diagonal touch screen display, Radio Data System, Chevrolet MyLink
Bose energy-efficient, seven-speaker sound system
Comfort Package with heated driver and front passenger cloth seats and leather-wrapped steering wheel
Safety Package 1 includes auto-dimming inside rearview mirror, rear vision camera and rear park assist
Safety Package 2 is available when Safety Package 1 is ordered, and includes front park assist, forward collision alert and lane-departure warning to help drivers avoid potential collisions
Premium Trim Package with leather-appointed seat trim, heated driver and passenger front seats, leather-wrapped steering wheel, removable rear seat armrests and premium door trim.
Volt chassis and suspension

The Volt's MacPherson strut-type front suspension, sophisticated compound crank rear axle and quick-reacting, rack-mounted electric power steering system with ZF steering gear have been tuned to deliver a smooth, refined ride with responsive handling and a solid, on-center feel.

A low center of gravity combines with the wide track and long wheelbase for balanced performance. Front and rear hydraulic ride bushings help eliminate road harshness.

An electro-hydraulic regenerative brake system captures energy up to 0.2g for transfer back to the battery. The friction braking system features large rotors with a special finishing process that protects against corrosion and promotes longer life.

The Volt rides on lightweight aluminum wheels that weigh only 17.8 pounds (8.1 kg) each, compared to 24.2 pounds (11 kg) for typical 17-inch wheels. They're wrapped in Goodyear Fuel Max all-season, low-rolling resistance tires optimized for electric vehicle range, noise, feel and performance.

Volt safety and crash-avoidance features

The Volt helps protect occupants before, during and after a crash. C rash-avoidance features include standard anti-lock brakes with traction control, StabiliTrak electronic stability control and advanced, LED daytime running lamps that make the Volt more visible to other motorists and pedestrians.

Occupant protection continues with a strong structure, and the Chevrolet Volt's body-frame-integral structure strategically blends advanced steels to help ensure crashworthiness and stiffness. Nearly 80 percent of the Volt's overall structure consists of high-strength, advanced high-strength or ultra high-strength steel.

Because the Volt operates so quietly in all-electric mode, a driver-activated feature sounds a noise to alert pedestrians, particularly those with visual impairments, in an intersection. The alert was developed in conjunction with the American Federation of the Blind.

Additional safety features include:

Eight standard air bags, including dual-stage driver and passenger air bags; front driver and passenger knee air bags to help mitigate lower leg injuries; roof rail side-curtain air bags that extend over both seating rows for side-impact and rollover protection; and seat-mounted thorax and pelvic side air bags
Available forward collision warning and lane departure warning systems warn drivers of a potential crash
Available front and rear park assist
Available rear vision camera
Automatic occupant sensing system detects the presence of a child or smaller adult in the front passenger seat and suppresses the air bag to help avoid an injury
Rollover sensing and protection system
Collapsible pedal assembly to protect against lower leg injuries
Safety belt retractor and lap belt pretensioners in the driver and front passenger positions
LATCH child seat installation system in rear seating positions
Anti-lock brakes, traction control and StabiliTrak electronic stability enhancement
Tire pressure monitoring system.
After a crash, the Chevrolet Volt offers the security of OnStar, which uses built-in vehicle sensors to automatically alert an OnStar advisor in certain types of collisions. The advisor is immediately connected to the vehicle and can request that emergency help be sent to its location.

OnStar details

Three years of OnStar Directions and Connections service is standard on Volt. OnStar is the global leading provider of connected safety, security and mobility solutions and advanced information technology.

OnStar's RemoteLink Mobile App allows smartphone users to control vehicle functions, access vehicle information and send directions directly to the vehicle. A new, opt-in service called FamilyLink allows subscribers to stay connected to loved ones by checking the location of their vehicle online or by signing up for vehicle location alerts.

Volt features new OnStar button icons. Drivers will notice an updated look for the Hands-Free Calling button, blue OnStar button and red Emergency button.

More information about OnStar can be found at www.onstar.com.


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      Kennesaw K
      • 2 Years Ago
      I've read the good and the bad about the Volt. When I walked past the Volt at the Chevy dealer, I was curious so I looked inside. It was open so I got in. The friendly, knowledgeable salesman showed, answered, explained. Then we went for a short ride. That's all it took, along with the idea that maybe I could get by each day on mostly the electric charge rather than using some gasoline. Never had a better experience buying a car, then at Carl Black Chevrolet in Kennesaw, GA. Never thought I would be one of those smug Hybrid drivers, and don't plan on becoming one. All cars have issues. My wife's newer Camry isn't perfect, but good enough. Our Ford is rock solid, but not perfect. Glad I took a chance on the Volt. It's been a great ride.
      Yang Xi Gua
      • 2 Years Ago
      why don't they just cut to the chase and say 100 miles electric range? GM is in bed with the government whatever they say is uncontested
        tump
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Yang Xi Gua
        There needs to be a basic intelligence test for internet access.
      Burticus
      • 2 Years Ago
      And its still a peice of garbage , only built with , through and by , taxpayer dollars . Good job
        Dark Gnat
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Burticus
        GM had been working on the Volt years before the bailouts.
          Kevin Holden
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dark Gnat
          And was mass produced thanks to my tax dollars...... POS>
          rlog100
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dark Gnat
          @Kevin, GM blew through tax payer dollars in the first few months of post-blankruptcy operations. Its like if someone lent you $1000 and then ran around telling everyone they paid for your house, car, and kid's college tuition.
        danwat1234
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Burticus
        The Volt is a piece of garbage? Hmm, ZERO issues on carcomplaints.com. Seems to be a very reliable car so far.
        Netguru2000
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Burticus
        You can prevent the next Great Depression. (some might say you did). GM - 120,000 jobs Ford - 80,000 jobs Chrysler - 66,000 jobs Auto Dealerships - 740,000 jobs Suppliers - 610,000 jobs - These jobs would be greatly affected if the Big 3 fail but are not employed by the Big 3 The Volt is getting amazing reviews, highest overall customer satisfaction. Doesn't sound like anything will change your mind.
      Toneron
      • 2 Years Ago
      Of course the gov is going to tout it's own car. I don't give a crap how "nice" it is - I object to my own hard earned money being spent on it against my will. Both the bailout farce and the government rebate - or whatever the label of the day these socialist programs. And technology for technology's sake makes me sick. 38 miles? Give me an effen break. Not much advancement in the last 100 years. No matter how much liberal media and tax money this will still FAIL
        Rob J
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Toneron
        I'm sorry but are you a 19 year old who just started paying taxes? I never wanted my country to start a trillion dollar war but that sure didn't stop them... If you don't like it, leave.
        Michael Sexton
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Toneron
        Mitt,is that you?
        soca6ft5
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Toneron
        I hope you object as loudly about the $4-10 billion tax breaks (as you say, your tax money) given annually to the oil companies. If every purchaser of electric vehicles last year claimed the total allowed tax credit, it would amount to ~3% of the oil companies' tax credits.
      John Ward
      • 2 Years Ago
      electric range on these things is still pathetic.
      MONTEGOD7SS
      • 2 Years Ago
      38 miles would get me to work and back, twice. I wish I could afford one now, but clearly they are going to change the World with the way this driveline is configured. Pruis style hybrids will be a thing of the past because they still have standard transmissions in the mix sapping power. In another 10yrs almost all "hybrid" cars on the road will be licensing this technology from GM and putting all kinds of different generators onboard. With this design the engine doesn't matter, it could be gasoline, diesel, hydrogen, fuel cell, heck it could be steam for all it cares. Keeping the engine to do nothing more than make electrical energy and not run through a transmission is genius.
        The Other Bob
        • 2 Years Ago
        @MONTEGOD7SS
        "Pruis style hybrids will be a thing of the past because they still have standard transmissions in the mix sapping power. " I used to think the same thing, becuase Toyota calls the Prius transmission an "eCVT". In reality there is not actually a transmission, just a differential-like "power split device" that alters the gear rations by changing the amount of input or drag the motor puts on the differential. It reall is quite simple. The Ford Hyrbids use the same system, but other hybrids often have transmissions as you discuss.
          • 2 Years Ago
          @The Other Bob
          [blocked]
          Steve
          • 2 Years Ago
          @The Other Bob
          lne937s, Are you that ignorant???? Are you afraid of facts??? The Volt is made Michigan. Michigan is in the USA..... Did you fail geography? The Ford hybrid system is NOT licensed from Toyota. http://green.autoblog.com/2009/07/03/once-more-with-feeling-ford-does-not-use-the-toyota-hybrid-syst/ Is it that difficult to post any truth??????
          lne937s
          • 2 Years Ago
          @The Other Bob
          BTW, the Japanese made Volt also has a "powersplit devise". It is essentially the same planetary setup as the HSD, but with the imput and outpoints swapped. Wouldn't surprise me if GM is actually paying some liscensing fees (the Ford hybrid system is liscensed from Toyota).
          axiomatik
          • 2 Years Ago
          @The Other Bob
          The Prius, Ford's hybrids, and the Volt all use a planetary gearset as the "transmission". The Volt's is the most different, as it swaps around the locations of the motors and the output. It is also very different in that the electric motor is the primary power source. In both the Prius and the Ford, they are designed with the gas engine as the primary power source, with the electric motor only providing assistance.
        Rob J
        • 2 Years Ago
        @MONTEGOD7SS
        Unless the price drops substantially (think 50% or more), the Volt architecture will still not be as popular as the Prius. Not to mention, as battery technology improves, traditional hybrids will get better along side the new PHEV and will still be appealing to those who want a more traditional vehicle. I also think the BEST thing that could happen would be other auto makers pursuing PHEV like the Volt, it would be nice to see the same level of competition with Ford as we currently see with the Mustang/Camaro.
          boardin85
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Rob J
          Really? 50% or more? You think that one of the most technologically advanced cars on the market that barely uses any fuel should cost under $20,000? I mean I'd agree that it's too expensive to rack up tons of sales right now, but 50% cheaper? C'mon!
          axiomatik
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Rob J
          50% is way too much. A Fusion Hybrid starts at $28k, why would the Volt costs substantially less, with a much larger battery and much larger electric motor? Realistically, $32-33k would be great. At that price point, even if the tax credit were reduced to $2500, it would be just under $30k.
        ChrisH
        • 2 Years Ago
        @MONTEGOD7SS
        Actually the Volt isn't the drive train of the future and the others will not be licensing it. You apparently missed the fact that gasoline engine does drive the wheels, granted only at highway speeds. However the Volt's drive line had too many compromises made to reach production. I think the end solution will be the way Tesla is headed, but with much faster charging. Gas engines and battery mixes will both have long term application over the next decade if not longer. If anything pushes gasoline out it would be natural gas.
      NissanGTR
      • 2 Years Ago
      You can save 15k dollars with a Prius. So what is the point of this car again?
        MTN RANGER
        • 2 Years Ago
        @NissanGTR
        Why buy a Prius when you can get a 10 year old Civic for $2000. Why buy a used Civic when you can buy a Moped. Why buy a moped, when you can steal a bicycle. That argument is lame. A Prius optioned up like a Volt is only a few thousand dollars less and doesn't run primarily on electricity.
        Rob J
        • 2 Years Ago
        @NissanGTR
        Being able to drive to work 15 miles away and home again without ever having to fill up the tank while at the same time, not having to deal with an awful CVT and getting from 0-60 about a second or two quicker thanks to the gobs of torque. I would have figured that would have been obvious.
        bjg1765
        • 2 Years Ago
        @NissanGTR
        It would be worth the extra 15K NOT to be seen in a prius.
      Worx2749
      • 2 Years Ago
      This is a great car, despite the naysayer blathering about 'government motors' and other conservative 'talking points.' The Volt's problem is: it's just too expensive. Complaint about 'electric range'....these plug-ins let you run around town, doing errands, without using gas! The Prius plug-in's good for only about 14 miles. Plug-in advantage is that you never have to fret about 'range.'
        Zoom
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Worx2749
        GM needs to take a haircut on the Volt for the next 5 years and lower the price $15,000. At $23k, these will fly off dealer lots and GM can control how much it subsidizes by only producing a certain amount. Once they're in enough hands and demand is high. At $23k (pre-tax credit) I think everyone would want one of these.
          MTN RANGER
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          So losing a lot of money on each car sold will be better in greater numbers? That sounds like a ticket to bankruptcy to me.
          Julius
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          @ MTN RANGER: "So losing a lot of money on each car sold will be better in greater numbers? That sounds like a ticket to bankruptcy to me." Isn't that how GM got into this bankruptcy mess in the first place?
          Rob J
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          Allow me to pick myself up off my chair from your incredible insight that the Volt would be more popular if it was almost half the cost. 23k is the price of a high end Cruze (which is what the Volt is based off). Considering that the Volt ALREADY comes with most of the options on that car (mostly the tech related ones), I can't see how they will make it cost the same while still including a battery and motor. What will really and realistically help Volt sales is a spike in the price of gas and continues improvements in range. While it would be lovely if we could keep having more conveniences at the same or lower cost, the fact is that the party is winding down and the end of traditional cheap fuel is coming to a end. Things are just going to cost more and we are going to eventually accept having less.
          Julius
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          "At $23k (pre-tax credit) I think everyone would want one of these." So you're saying that this car should have an out-the door price of $15,500? That's well below the average price of new cars today.
          tump
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          Zoom, that's WAY below the average car transaction price. There's no need to suffer bastards.
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          [blocked]
          Nickoo
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          I agree, GM would do well to take a loss on this as a halo vehicle, but maybe only lower it by 10k or so until they find the sweet spot, if they made GM cars relevant again, they could make it up on more cruise sales for those who couldn't quite afford the volt. GM would be selling these by the boatload if they had priced it right.
          Rob J
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          Allow me to pick myself up off my chair from your incredible insight that the Volt would be more popular if it was almost half the cost. 23k is the price of a high end Cruze (which is what the Volt is based off). Considering that the Volt ALREADY comes with most of the options on that car (mostly the tech related ones), I can't see how they will make it cost the same while still including a battery and motor. What will really and realistically help Volt sales is a spike in the price of gas and continues improvements in range. While it would be lovely if we could keep having more conveniences at the same or lower cost, the fact is that the party is winding down and the end of traditional cheap fuel is coming to a end. Things are just going to cost more and we are going to eventually accept having less.
        John Ward
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Worx2749
        I don't think I know anyone that drives less than 35 miles a day.
          axiomatik
          • 2 Years Ago
          @John Ward
          Of the 7 people in my office, 3 of them (including myself) live within 15 miles of work. 2 others are right about 25 miles, so they would be dipping into gasoline a little bit on their commute if they had a Volt. My wife's commute is only 4 miles. I know 2 of my coworkers' wives have commutes less than 15 miles as well.
      s tom
      • 2 Years Ago
      Yay. All the way to work and halfway home. Awesome
        Zoom
        • 2 Years Ago
        @s tom
        Maybe you work too far from home. Most Americans commute less than 15 miles in each direction to work. So it doesn't work for you, but it works for just about everyone else.
          jtav2002
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          Yup, my round trip commute to work is under 20 miles. This would work for me if I wanted one. I have no interest in any kind of hybrid vehicle right now, but the Volt would probably be at the top of my list if I actually was.
          ChrisH
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Zoom
          Well some of us had our primary work location move after we bought our homes. With the current economy it is not unreasonable to have many people with new employers and you don't necessarily get to choose where they are. My commute jumped eleven miles on way because we got relocated.
      bjg1765
      • 2 Years Ago
      The Volt is basically the same size and shape of a Chevy Cruze. The Cruze starts about 17k nicely equipped and the Volt starts at 40k. With an average savings of fuel costs of $6,850 over 5 years you are still losing money. At that rate it would take 30 years of driving that volt to recoup the cost of the vehicle and thats if it ran perfectly for all those years with no maintenance costs or repairs. As it is, you would have to drive that Volt for about 13 years to save enough money to be equal to buying a new Cruze, but you would still be driving a 13 year old car. I think the Volt is a great car and a great idea but at that price range it will never be anything more than a novelty or a second car for the upper class of the population. Drop the price to around 25K and make them affordable to anyone with an annual income of 40k plus. There are 72 million americans that make less than 25k a year and still couldnt afford this car at 25k so the car maker that can get an electric/gas hybrid out there at around 18k would top the sellers list and be doing this country a huge favor.
        Julius
        • 2 Years Ago
        @bjg1765
        Umm... computers were the same way when they came out (a 1981 IBM PC was $1600, plus you needed a monitor and printer). So yes, this is for early-adopters, not for mainstream America. Once the early costs have been paid for, the car's price will drop.
          RJC
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Julius
          Exactly. Someone has to step up first so that technology becomes cheap for the rest of us.
        MTN RANGER
        • 2 Years Ago
        @bjg1765
        Does the Cruze have 4 wheel disc brakes? Not available on the ECO Does the Cruze have a 149 HP engine with 273 lbs of torque? No, it has a 138 horsepower engine and 123 lbs of torque Does the cruze have a 1 speed automatic (or CVT)? No Does the Cruze have capacitive touch screen displays and controls? No Is the Cruze even in the same ballpark for interior noise levels under operation? No Does it have RFID keyless entry? No Are heated mirrors available? No Is climate control available? No (just single zone knob and button) Are leather seats available? No Are heated seats available? No Does the Cruze have front park assist? Not that I can tell. I think only rear Are the headlights projectors? No Are rear view mirror turn signals available? No Is an automatic dimming rear view mirror available? No Does the car have vanity mirrors for the driver and passenger? No Does the car have keyless start? No Does it have a harddrive for music recording? No Does it have onstar free for 3 years? No Do you get your own personal Chevrolet advisor with the car? No And the obvious and most important: Can the Eco run without burning any gas? No Thanks to: Volt Driver http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?14035-The-definitive-list-of-why-a-Cruze-is-not-a-Volt&highlight=cruze Apples to apples, a Cruze with options similar to the Volt runs about $25,000 vs $32,500 after tax credit for the Volt. Over five years, the total cost of operating the Volt is much less. Of course it would be great if it were cheaper, that will take time.
        Rob J
        • 2 Years Ago
        @bjg1765
        1) The average person (myself included) pisses away loads of money - 40k for a fuel sipper is "affordable" for the average American, it would just required giving up some luxuries. 2) If you own the car for 10 years, with the fuel savings and a government rebate, the price IS about 23k so your point is moot 3) They used market for these vehicles has not yet emerged 4) The OG Prius and Insight were both prohibitively expensive and are now more than affordable. 5) Some people care more about things other than just saving money - these include A) Keeping the cost of gas stable by reducing demand B) Reducing Americas dependance on foreign oil C) Lowering their output of CO2 6) The Volt comes with much more standard when compared to the fleet-only base Cruze.
          Shawn
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Rob J
          1) You're clearly out of touch. Even with 10% down payment on a base car (More than most people have to put down), you're looking at a $500 car payment with 0% APR over 72 months. That's the absolute minimum unless you get twisted into a lease that limits your mileage and thus the entire point of owning it. That's not affordable for many people unless by giving up luxuries, you mean your home and food. 4) That's also completely incorrect. The Prius MSRP is pretty much unchanged with most models costing more today than they did when launched in America. The Insight price is relatively unchanged as well. Since you proved yourself an idiot on those 2 points, the rest isn't even worth talking about.
        axiomatik
        • 2 Years Ago
        @bjg1765
        People who earn less than $25k/year should think long and hard before buying *any* new car. There is a very large used car market that is more suited to their purchasing power.
      Roger
      • 2 Years Ago
      GM will never park in my driveway again. The service department of ml local GM is filled with snakes. I have an Aveo that was running rough and service engine light was on. Chevy service said it needed new spark plugs. As I was leaving on vacation the next day and my daughter needed the car I had mr goodwrench do the job (for $179.00. When I got back from vacation there was a recall letter on my desk from GM about bad spark plugs, cables and boots. I took the letter down to mr goodwrench and asked for a refund. Hemming and hawing for two weeks and five phonecalls later I was denied my claim. You see there were no records of my changing out the sparkplugs 25000 miles ago. Therefor the recall could not happen. They would have used the same plugs as before but somehow my "bad "parts were not recallable due to age? All my maintenance was done by GM. So for $179.00 GM has lost a loyal customer. And I intend to post about them every chance I get to let you people know what to expect from GM. Ask about the tire story next.
        Steve
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Roger
        Why did you buy an Aveo???? That was your biggest problem. I would not classify that as a GM...... I hope you don't turn around and buy a Kia Rio or Hyundia Accent. That will show that you didn't learn the first time.
          BL
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Steve
          Wait a minute... wait a minute... hold on. So let's explore all the things wrong with the statement you just made Steve. First of all... You're not going to classify a GM product as a GM. That's just plain stupid. I'm not going to say any more about that. Secondly, this "Aveo's suck" attitude is precisely the reason that the domestic automakers got KILLED when brands like Toyota and Honda came into the US. The domestics figured: "Let's build a cheap 'disposable' vehicle that will break down in a couple of years. Then they'll come back and get a new one!" People that have worked for GM have admitted that fact. Toyota and Honda's philosophy was/is: "Not every customer can buy an expensive car. We need to take care of the little guy as well. Let's build a quality car that will last a long time." Now here's the result of those two differing philosophies: The people that bought the crappy Cavaliers and Escorts and had nothing but problems with them decided "Hey, if Ford/GM won't take care of me when I only have an economy car in my budget, why they hell would I give these assbags my money when I get a promotion and it's time for me to buy something nicer? F*** them!" On the other side of the coin: "I've had this Corolla for 10 years and put 200,000 miles on it. Toyota builds a great car. I think I'll get a loaded Camry this time around." Why do you think the Corolla is the highest selling vehicle in the history of the world? Toyota has sold close to 40,000,000 of them. And the Camry is the highest selling car in the country? Clearly, GM hasn't learned their lesson. They still build shitty compact cars and completely abandon their potential future customers on higher priced vehicles. And for the record, I'm not a huge fan of Kia or Hyundai. But I would rather have an Accent over an Aveo any day of the weak.
        caddy-v
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Roger
        Not calling you a fibber, but just for the heck of it I looked up spark plug recall on the NHTSA website and narry a word.
      Weezle Eye
      • 2 Years Ago
      This car makes a lot of sense at $25k.
        Mike Fernandez
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Weezle Eye
        $25k would be nice but is no way possible at this stage. The plug in Prius is over $40k for comparison. $30k+ is needed for the next few years until battery technologies become cheaper and economies of scale (if the demand is there) take place.
        TorqueGirl
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Weezle Eye
        I'd buy this car for 25k!!!
        axiomatik
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Weezle Eye
        $25k would make it the same price as a Prius, yet the Prius has a much smaller battery (1/10th the size) and a much smaller electric motor (67HP versus the Volts 149HP). There is no way the Volt could ever come down that far in price and still offer the electric range it has, not anytime in the near future.
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