March 2012 still stands as the high-water mark for Chevrolet Volt sales. That month, GM sold 2,289 Volts, a number that dropped to 1,462 in April. The news today is that sales climbed back up to 1,680 in May. GM's Twitter account says that demand for the 703 Volt in California is temporarily outstripping supply. We wonder if there are dealers in other states who would be more than willing to send their unsold units westward.

When it comes to the Nissan Leaf, the May number – 510 sold – is better than the 370 Nissan sold in April. Of course, it's fewer than the 579 units sold in March and is also less than half of what Nissan sold in May 2011: 1,142. For the record, there were 26 selling days in May 2012 and 24 in May 2011. For another record, while the vehicles aren't really comparable, the Smart Fortwo outsold the Leaf at 703 units in May. Just so you know.

As we mentioned last month, Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn has been managing expectations about Leaf sales and saying that month-to-month numbers don't matter that much. Therefore, we won't read anything great into May's uptick just like April's downward slide wasn't a great cause for alarm. From what we understand, Leaf production is still lower than demand is calling for. The Smyrna, TN and Sunderland, UK Leaf plants, when they come online, should change this.

Other plug-in vehicle sales numbers were either less good or simply not announced yet. Ford, for example, said it "delivered the first Focus Electric vehicles to retail customers" in May, but did not say how many that was. We're still waiting for Mitsubishi and Toyota to release their plug-in vehicle sales numbers for May. We'll update this post when they do.

*UPDATE: Overall Prius sales were 21,477 last month, with the following breakdown:

Prius Liftback: 13,053
Prius C: 3,693
Prius V: 3,645
Prius Plug-in: 1,086

*LATER UPDATE: Mitsubishi isn't breaking out i sales, but did announce that the company sold a total of 5,575 vehicles in May and that, "Mitsubishi i sales continue to grow every month."


*AND ANOTHER: Mitsubishi sent us its May sales figures. The i sold 85 units last month, bringing the 2012 total to 300.
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GM Reports Highest Monthly Sales in 33 Months

2012-06-01

DETROIT – General Motors Co. (NYSE: GM) today reported May sales of 245,256 vehicles in the United States, up 11 percent year over year and the highest monthly total since August 2009 when dealers delivered 246,479 units. GM retail sales were up 14 percent year-over-year and the retail mix was 70 percent. Fleet sales increased 3 percent. Buick and GMC both reported sales increases of 19 percent and Chevrolet was up 10 percent.

Sales of GM small and compact cars were up 16 percent in May versus a year ago, driven by the new Chevrolet Sonic, which had sales of 7,205 units, and the new Buick Verano, with 3,609 sales, which has increased sales every month since launch.

Combined sales of all seven Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac crossovers were up 14 percent versus a year ago. The Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain continue to stand out, with sales up 15 percent and 20 percent, respectively.

Full-size pickup sales were up 23 percent year over year, mid-size pickup sales were up 34 percent and full-size SUVs were up 14 percent.

"GM's sales in May were the highest in almost three years and we are poised to keep delivering good news for the U.S. economy with one of the most aggressive new product offenses in our history," said Don Johnson, vice president, U.S. Sales Operations. "About 70 percent of our nameplates will be new or freshened over the course of 2012 and 2013 and that positions us very well as the industry and GM start to approach pre-recession sales levels."

This summer, Chevrolet will launch the new 2013 Chevrolet Malibu four-cylinder and the Chevrolet Spark, while Cadillac will launch the XTS large luxury sedan and ATS compact luxury sedan.

The Cadillac XTS went into production in May and cars are expected to begin arriving in showrooms in June. The XTS and ATS will complement the Cadillac CTS sedan and coupe, the SRX crossover and the Escalade sport utility vehicle. Cadillac's total sales reflect a planned 82 percent decrease in fleet sales.

2012 Highlights

May Total Sales

Total Change vs. May 2011

May Retail Sales

Retail Change vs. May 2011

CYTD Sales

CYTD Change vs. 2011

CYTD Retail Sales

CYTD Retail Change vs. 2011

Chevrolet

177,943

10.2%

118,527

16.3%

781,564

4.5%

525,446

3.7%

GMC

38,877

19.3%

30,320

15.4%

163,364

5.7%

137,372

2.8%

Buick

18,565

19.2%

14,468

10.7%

71,347

(9.4%)

63,373

(1.7%)

Cadillac

9,871

(15.1%)

9,550

(2.9%)

50,688

(22.3%)

48,927

(11.8%)

Total GM

245,256

10.9%

172,865

14.4%

1,066,963

2.0%

775,118

2.0%


Industry Sales

May SAAR (est.)

CYTD SAAR (est.)

Full Year 2012 (est.)

Light Vehicles

14.0 million range

14.4 million

14.0 million – 14.5 million


Inventory

Units @
May 31, 2012

Days Supply (selling days adjusted)

Units @
April 30, 2012

Days Supply (selling days adjusted)

All Vehicles

694,600

74

701,389

79

Full-size Pickups

223,296

116

226,585

121


General Motors Co. (NYSE:GM, TSX: GMM) and its partners produce vehicles in 30 countries, and the company has leadership positions in the world's largest and fastest-growing automotive markets. GM's brands include Chevrolet and Cadillac, as well as Baojun, Buick, GMC, Holden, Isuzu, Jiefang, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling. More information on the company and its subsidiaries, including OnStar, a global leader in vehicle safety, security and information services, can be found at http://www.gm.com.

Forward-Looking Statements

In this press release and in related comments by our management, our use of the words "expect," "anticipate," "possible," "potential," "target," "believe," "commit," "intend," "continue," "may," "would," "could," "should," "project," "projected," "positioned" or similar expressions is intended to identify forward-looking statements that represent our current judgment about possible future events. We believe these judgments are reasonable, but these statements are not guarantees of any events or financial results, and our actual results may differ materially due to a variety of important factors. Among other items, such factors might include: our ability to realize production efficiencies and to achieve reductions in costs as a result of our restructuring initiatives and labor modifications; our ability to maintain quality control over our vehicles and avoid material vehicle recalls; our ability to maintain adequate liquidity and financing sources and an appropriate level of debt, including as required to fund our planned significant investment in new technology; the ability of our suppliers to timely deliver parts, components and systems; our ability to realize successful vehicle applications of new technology; and our ability to continue to attract new customers, particularly for our new products. GM's most recent annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q provides information about these and other factors, which we may revise or supplement in future reports to the SEC.


Nissan North America Sales Increase 20.5% in May

FRANKLIN, Tenn. - Nissan North America, Inc. (NNA) today reported May U.S. sales of 91,794 units versus 76,148 units a year earlier, up 20.5 percent. Nissan Division sales increased 16.4 percent for the month at 81,202 units. Sales of Infiniti vehicles were up 65.8 percent over the prior year, to 10,592 units.

NISSAN HIGHLIGHTS

Nissan Division posted 81,202 sales, up 16.4 percent from last May's 69,759 units.
Nissan Rogue sales set a new May record with 11,977 units sold, up 72 percent from a year ago.
Nissan Juke also saw best-ever May sales, with 3,298 units marking a 66.2 percent increase over May 2011.
Sales of the Nissan Versa rose 80.3 percent from year-ago, to 8,643 deliveries.
Nissan's lineup of trucks and SUVs delivered strong gains, with sales increases across the lineup, including: Frontier up 17.2 percent; Titan up 86.7 percent; Pathfinder up 32.6 percent; and Armada up 26 percent.

"Fuel-efficient models like the Versa, Juke and Rogue had a great May, but moderating gas prices drove gains across our entire truck lineup," said Al Castignetti, vice president and general manager, Nissan Division. "Demand for the Altima remains strong through our sell-down efforts, with sales for the year up more than 20 percent. We look for that momentum to carry into the launch of the all-new 2013 Altima, which goes on sale by the end of June."

INFINITI HIGHLIGHTS

Infiniti today reported sales of 10,592 units for May, an increase of 65.8 percent from 6,389 units a year earlier.
The Infiniti G Sedan had sales of 3,758, an increase of 40 percent and the best May since 2008.
The Infiniti QX full-size luxury SUV had its best May since 2006, with sales of 994, an increase of 27.6 percent.
The all-new Infiniti JX 7-passenger luxury crossover contributed incremental sales of 2,678 units for May, and 5,297 for the year.

NOTE: To ensure consistency in global sales reporting, Nissan North America calculates monthly variances on a straight-percentage basis, unadjusted for the number of selling days. May 2012 had 26 selling days, while May 2011 had 24 selling days.

About Nissan North America
In North America, Nissan's operations include automotive styling, engineering, consumer and corporate financing, sales and marketing, distribution and manufacturing. Nissan is dedicated to improving the environment under the Nissan Green Program and has been recognized as an ENERGY STAR® Partner of the Year in 2010, 2011, and 2012 by the U.S Environmental Protection Agency. More information on Nissan in North America and the complete line of Nissan and Infiniti vehicles can be found online at www.NissanUSA.com and www.InfinitiUSA.com.

About Nissan
Nissan Motor Co., Ltd., Japan's second largest Japanese automotive company by volume, is headquartered in Yokohama, Japan and is an integral pillar of the Renault-Nissan Alliance. Operating with more than 248,000 employees globally, Nissan provided customers with more than 4.6 million vehicles in 2011. With a strong commitment to developing exciting and innovative products for all, Nissan delivers a comprehensive range of fuel-efficient and low-emissions vehicles under the Nissan and Infiniti brands. A pioneer in zero emission mobility, Nissan made history with the introduction of the Nissan LEAF, the first affordable, mass-market, pure-electric vehicle and winner of numerous international accolades including the prestigious 2011 European Car of the Year award.

For more information on our products, services and commitment to Sustainable Mobility, visit our website at http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/.


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      Electron
      • 8 Days Ago
      @ DaveMart I think we were having a very pleasant and informative discussion until Marcopolo/marco polo/marcopolo/Marco Polo/??/?? decided to but in and disrupt it with his usual abuse. About the "commodity"thing: I didn't think you meant it as a derogatory term but it often is used that way, suggesting Tesla uses batteries that really aren't that suitable for use in EVs. While the batteries used in the Roadster may have been a bit of a compromise, I just wanted to establish that's no longer the case for Model S.
      Electron
      • 8 Days Ago
      @DaveMart BTW: the only thing "commodity"about the batteries Tesla use is their 18650 format. The new LiNiO2 chemistry they use for the Model S has characteristics that make it particularly suitable for automotive use. Oh and they make fine laptop cells too....
      PR
      • 8 Days Ago
      SVX -- It would have been politically impossible for GM to launch the Volt in Europe first, regardless of any sales advantages it may or may not have had.
      SVX pearlie
      • 8 Days Ago
      @Rotation: GM has stated over 10,000 Ampera preordered. Which makes perfect sense, given how much more expensive their gasoline is (about $8/gal). The biggest problem is that Germans typically drive 105-120 mph on the unrestricted portions of Autobahn. That is why the Ampera has some powertrain tweaks relative to the USDM Volt. But if you live with $8/gal gas, even if your electricity is 2x as expensive, the payback is so fast, it's a no-brainer.
      noevfud
      • 2 Years Ago
      It is silly to compare LEAF sales to Volt sales as they simply are not the same. In fact, if LEAF sales were 20% of the Volt each moth it would be a huge accomplishment based on all the fear of range and lack of education about how both of these vehicles have a different application. Many people only need the range of the present LEAF and others must have the extension of the VOLT. I also know of two Volt owners that sold their cars because once they got a taste of electric drive they no longer wanted to toe the gas engine. Based on that small data point what does that mean? Once battery tech gets better and consumers are more educated VS brainwashed the numbers will shift. My guess is that if Toyota made a car with the same plugin range as the Volt the volt would be sitting on the lots. There is no direct competing vehicle to the Volt today, the Prius is too far off in range and the LEAF is for a different market with some cross over. This does not make one car better than the other just different based on needs and the main restriction on a LEAF today is only the pack. I pack capacity tripled next year at the same cost does anyone think Volt sales would be more than 100 a month? I'm also tired of hearing investing in EVs is a waste, all new technologies grow and improve but ignoring them is a fools game. Just think if the Edison car kept evolving on its own without the ICE, we would likely be much further along. Even if an EV like the LEAF had a 700 mile range at the same price there would still be massive opposition by many. The advancement of EV packs also benefits the medical field, power distribution, consumer electronics, the military, national security, sat technology, and on and on. Let's wake up folks and stop living in the dark ages because of greed. We need to move forward for more than one reason, you are either with us or against us! :) Don't forget how large the first cell phones were!
      Nick
      • 2 Years Ago
      Curious to see what'll happen when Volt and Leaf prices drop :) Can't wait for 5000 EVs / month !
        Electron
        • 8 Days Ago
        @Nick
        Theoretically Smyrna could crank out 50K units per year. It would take a significant price drop though to shift that many. My hunch would be $27400, putting price just below $20K after the federal tax credit. Such a price cut would rock and shock the market but I'm afraid isn't realistic at this point.
        Maddoxx
        • 8 Days Ago
        @Nick
        Production should be split with the Infiniti LE, I'm thinking the Leaf would be priced at $29,995 and the Infiniti at $39,995 before rebates making the Infiniti a very attractive car to compete with Tesla Short range.
          Spec
          • 8 Days Ago
          @Maddoxx
          I wish the two cars would be sold at those prices, they would be a big hit. But I don't think they can get them that low yet.
          SVX pearlie
          • 8 Days Ago
          @Maddoxx
          OK, thanks Dave.
          DaveMart
          • 8 Days Ago
          @Maddoxx
          SVX: We have been told by Nissan that localisation of production to Europe will mean a 33% drop in costs, compared to Japanese production. Presumably somewhat similar costings apply to production in the US. Unfortunately we have not got enough information to properly assess what that means. We don't know for a start whether Nissan were selling much of their comparatively trivial numbers at a loss, so it could even mean that a 1/3rd reduction in cost just gets them to break even. I don't think so though, as Nissan are still aiming for very high sales numbers compared to what went before. I don't think they are nuts enough to think they can do that without price reductions. So the least hypothesis seems to me to be that there will be reductions in price, but we can't really put a finger on how much. My guess would be that we will get back down to the initial sales price in the US at least, before the yen forced prices higher. Fingers crossed we might do better than that.
          SVX pearlie
          • 8 Days Ago
          @Maddoxx
          "the Leaf would be priced at $29,995 before rebates" So the Leaf would be under $23k net to the buyer? I'm a little skeptical that it'll go that low.
          Spec
          • 8 Days Ago
          @Maddoxx
          "We have been told by Nissan that localisation of production to Europe will mean a 33% drop in costs, compared to Japanese production. . . . . , so it could even mean that a 1/3rd reduction in cost just gets them to break even." I doubt they are subsidizing the Leaf a full 33%! That would seem crazy. Even if they just cut the price by a mere 10%, that would be pretty big. 10% of $35.2K is $3,520 . . . that would be a nice big cut in price that would certainly make the Leaf much more attractive. If they could cut the price by 20%, that would be a game-changer . . . but I doubt they can do that yet.
      Sasparilla Fizz
      • 2 Years Ago
      So, we're looking at 3000 plug-ins sold in the US in May, that is excellent and so far ahead of the hybrid selling curve at the same time point after rollout. Very nice to see. It'll be nice when Smyrna, TN opens for the Leaf these numbers (without knowing what exactly is going on) is torture. It'd be interesting to know what the Volt numbers would be if they actually produced enough HOV Volts to meet demand in CA.... Earth to GM executives, get your heads out of your collective @$$e$ and start producing enough Volts to meet demand in the biggest plug-in market (by far) in the world (it was embarrassing enough GM ignored the CA HOV Volt market till 2012 and now this news that you're still not making enough HOV Volts is inexcusable at this point). JMHO... With the Tesla S coming soon and the Leaf from TN this fall these overall numbers will only go up - its a good time to step back and soak up the success (Leaf numbers and GM CA Volt production notwithstanding) of the early plug-in adoption.
        Spec
        • 8 Days Ago
        @Sasparilla Fizz
        Yeah, if you look at the aggregate plug-in market, it is clear that it is a real market. It is not going to go away like it did in 2000. Gasoline prices (despite the current dip) are high and will go higher. It is nice to see this alternative being made available and will continue. I look forward to having more models to choose from. If we get a lot of plug-in models available, we can actually start to make a dent on oil consumption.
        SVX pearlie
        • 8 Days Ago
        @Sasparilla Fizz
        "It'd be interesting to know what the Volt numbers would be if they actually produced enough HOV Volts to meet demand in CA." Hamtramck can produce over 1000 Volt / Ampera per week, up to 5000 Volt / Ampera per month (May production was 4900+). That sets an upper limit of about 60k annually using current shift and process. Looking at actual global demand for the Volt / Ampera, GM should be able to sell 20-25k Volt in the US, 5k Volt in Canada, and 20-25k Ampera in Europe, plus another 5-10k in Oz/Asia. Next year, GM should plan to sell 30-50k Ampera, so capacity is going to be a major issue 12 months from now.
      mylexicon
      • 2 Years Ago
      Decent figures for the Volt. Sad to see that some people still try to politicize the vehicle. They are as bad as the other people who try to politicize the vehicle. If the car was meant to be for one party but not the other, GM would have painted elephants or donkeys all over it. If you interject politics where it doesn't belong, the market gets cut in half. By responding to political criticism with political criticism, you are in fact doing the bidding of the political animals you despise.
        PR
        • 8 Days Ago
        @mylexicon
        What a crock of crap. If you don't like Republicans and right-wingers being called out and mocked and ridiculed for their attacks on the Volt and GM in an effort to bash Obama, blame your fellow right-wingers who are at fault, not the victims of their partisan lies. It is simply outrageous that you would attack the victim of calculated partisan lies for defending themselves as being "as bad" as the attackers! You show your true colors with your politically motivated finger-pointing designed specifically to minimize your fellow right-wingers by insinuating that debunking their lies is "as bad" as the original attacks. That is a bunch of crap, where you are trying to falsely shift the blame to the victim in order to provide political cover for the Republican Congressmen and Right-Wing pundits who launched the lies in their attacks. Pretending not to attack your political opponents by leaving out the names is just cowardice. But this childish game of pretending you aren't attacking your political opponents by just leaving out their names is the heights of absurdity! Let me guess, you are now going to blame me for making this political, when you are the right-winger who inserted politics into this first. Are you so stupid that you think if you just leave the nouns out, that you have somehow laundered your attacks to make them shiny and clean? Bring on your standard right-wing political attacks against me. I'm ready for more. Bring it on! I'm certain you will do absolutely anything to evade the cold hard truth that your right-wing buddies are at the core of the problem with attacks against the Volt. And you will evade that truth by pointing your finger at absolutely anyone you can, and attacking anyone you can just like you always do.
          marcopolo
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          @PR, Spec, Skierpage et al, There you have Mylexicon's summation of his viewpoint ! Agree or disagree, but how on earth does his lucid, rational, post, qualify to be judged as ;"mylexicon is queen of the incoherent psychobabble!" ? or PR's paranoid partisan attacks ?
          Marco Polo
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          @Mylexicon, It's not very often I find myself sympathising with your posts, but this is one of those occasions. Your observation that fierce partisan political battles over the GM Volt are both,sad and unnecessary, is not only accurate, but evidenced by the gratuitously vitriolic attacks against you. Your quote, "If you permanently eliminate domestic freedom to kill terrorists, the terrorists have already won.", is akin to the quote by RFK, when he said "you would create a desert, and call it peace !". The obvious truths of both quotes are hard to dispute ! Both PR's crazy rants and Spec's invective seem to be a bizarre over-reaction to your subdued and moderate plea to de-politicise the image of GM's Volt !
          PR
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          sirvix What time period of Republican and Democratic Parties are you referring to? Because my answer to that question would be different depending upon when in the evolution of the parties you are referring, and what issue was at question. For example, if you were talking Union Support based upon the issues that Unions were facing in the first half of the 20th century, I'd choose the Republican Party of the pre-1950's where the Republican Party fully backed Unions for the issues they were facing at the time. But there is no way in hell I would back the current tea-republic party's blind anti-Union policies if we were back in pre-1950's United States. Just like I'd back pre-1950's Republican Party policy of staying out of foreign conflicts today over the current tea-republic party's embrace of modern day neo-con hawkish war-mongering. I'd stand with the pre-1950's Republican Party, but 100% against the modern tea-republic party. The same goes for Nixon and Reagan's policies of talking with our enemies. Nixon going to China, and Reagan working directly with Iran. I would have preferred Reagan to have talked with Iran in the open, instead of doing Iran-Contra to unlawfully provide Iran with weapons.... If you want to talk racial politics in the south, I'd be for the Republican Party pre-1950's before they became the party opposed to civil rights and took on all the racists elements after Nixon's southern strategy. If you are talking modern political parties translated into pre-1950's USA, I'd back current Democratic Party racial political policies. You don't seem to know that I'm a recovered ex-Republican who used to post as "Nixon" on this board and many other places. My problem isn't with the historic Republican Party. My problem is with the evolution into the modern tea-republic party that has abandoned rational Republican Party policy of past decades. The parties have changed so much since the pre-1950's that they would be completely unrecognizable if politicians from back then were to time travel to today.
          mylexicon
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          @ Marco Yes, the situation is a bit frustrating. Distilling humanity into a series of dichotomous political symbols is a worthless pastime, and it is alarming how willingly the citizenry can be baited into the binary world of bipartisan politics. The Volt was subjected to preliminary evaluation from many different kinds of scrutiny, which ranged from legitimate to utterly ridiculous. It was judged by micro-economics, macro-economics, efficiency, driving experience, ecology, safety, sales, etc etc. It was even judged against the original Volt concept, which did not include a direct link between the wheels and the engine. Most of the scrutiny lacked substance so it has fallen away accordingly. Politics persists b/c of the never-ending election cycle, but we have run the political scrutiny tests. Besides the $7,500 tax credit, the Volt has almost no links to any political faction. The people who politicize the Volt should be labeled "unreasonable", but that would require the political opponents to forgo the nearly irresistible temptation to refer to them as a tea-bag or a d-bag. The Prius has become apolitical. With all of the press the Volt has received, it should be apolitical by now
          Spec
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          @PR Wow, excellent post. @mylexicon WTF are you talking about with "eliminate domestic freedom to kill terrorists"? Is that some paranoid delusion?
          Spec
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          @mylexicon Could you be a bit more specific? I still have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are stringing words together but not saying anything intelligible. You keep referring to things but not exactly saying what they are. Perhaps if you answered these questions: " I referred to a tenant of Democratic (big d) liberalism" - > What tenant? "The point was to prove" -> What point? "Fighting terror with terror"-> What 'terror' are you talking about? I think you may be speaking in right-wing code language that may make sense in Bircher land but you have a set of unstated assumptions that no one else understands.
          mylexicon
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          @ Spec PR said I should attack him with right wing nonsense; instead, I referred to a tenant of Democratic (big d) liberalism from the not too distant past. It was an allegory for fighting politics with politics. The point was to prove that he was standing for nothing other than his enraged bile duct; therefore, he couldn't withstand minor scrutiny from any intellectual discipline. Fighting terror with terror and the expansion of government power an not paranoid delusions. I don't think the US has gone quite that far, but I wouldn't avoid bringing the topic up for fear of being painted as paranoid or delusional.
          sirvixisvexed
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          PR, Would you be a republican or a democrat if it was the first half of the 20th century?
          mylexicon
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          PR, I'm sorry the world doesn't work the way you want it to work, but you shouldn't kill me, the innocent victim, for reminding you that partisanship isn't good business nor does it add any value to the US economy. If you permanently eliminate domestic freedom to kill terrorists, the terrorists have already won. If such lessons are beyond your mental faculties, you need not embarrass yourself with additional posts. You have demonstrated your incompetence sufficiently such that no one will need reminding in the future. I don't need right-wing attacks b/c the unintelligent are susceptible to almost all ideologies and political platforms.
          skierpage
          • 8 Days Ago
          @PR
          mylexicon is queen of the incoherent psychobabble!
      Jim Illo
      • 2 Years Ago
      "We wonder if there are dealers in other states who would be more than willing to send their unsold units westward." Uhm, since most other states aren't getting the "California PZEV Emission Equipment, [NU6 ]", non-California Volts wouldn't sell well in CA (no HOV-access for non-CA Volts).
        Sasparilla Fizz
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Jim Illo
        Well put.
        Rotation
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Jim Illo
        To be honest, dealers in other states should order with that option to keep their options open. For nearby states (like Nevada, Arizona), it might even raise resale value so much as to cover the cost of the option.
          SVX pearlie
          • 8 Days Ago
          @Rotation
          "For nearby states (like Nevada, Arizona), it might even raise resale value so much as to cover the cost of the option." Yup, Washington, Oregon, Nevada & Arizona all ought to do this.
        montoym
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Jim Illo
        Would that CA specific PZEV version be fore CA only or is it a case like the CA emissions (CARB) cars which are sold elsewhere (particularly in states that follw CA's emissions guidelines)? If other states do get those, then there would be at least 13 states (plus D.C.) where CA could source other cars from. While many are ont he East Coast, a few (AZ, WA, OR, NM,) are much closer to CA.
      Spec
      • 2 Years Ago
      Nice going GM, the Volt out-sold the Plug-In Prius.
        nsxrules
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Spec
        That's due to extremely tight Prius Plug in supplies..... The real comparison is 21,477 to a paltry 1,680
        usbseawolf2000
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Spec
        Prius PHV is currently only available in the 15 launch states. Volt is available in all 50 states.
          Rotation
          • 8 Days Ago
          @usbseawolf2000
          nsxrules: That's not a great measure. The PiP is already available in the states it will sell best in. If you looked at Volt sales in only the 15 states the PiP is available in, its sales per state would go way up, perhaps equal to or higher than the PiP.
          SVX pearlie
          • 8 Days Ago
          @usbseawolf2000
          The PIP sales are inflated by early adopter sales. In 3 months, let's see how the PIP does.
          nsxrules
          • 8 Days Ago
          @usbseawolf2000
          Spec, the PIP even with tight supplies is selling at more than twice the rate per state than the Volt.
          Spec
          • 8 Days Ago
          @usbseawolf2000
          "only $2500 tax credit." Was it GM's fault that Toyota was stupid and only put a small battery in there? LOL!
          SVX pearlie
          • 8 Days Ago
          @usbseawolf2000
          @nsx: even with early adopter push, the PIP sales dropped 30% from last month. Please explain how that happened.
          nsxrules
          • 8 Days Ago
          @usbseawolf2000
          Volt 34 units per state with a $7500 tax credit. Plug in Prius 72 units per state with an extremely tight supply and only $2500 tax credit. This race won't even be close when the Prius is available in all 50 states and with ample supplies.
        2 Wheeled Menace
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Spec
        Shoudn't be hard to outsell the PIP, it's got a very poor bang per buck IMHO.
      Electron
      • 2 Years Ago
      According to Inside EV the Leaf's sales woes are still supply related. Apparently the Zama plant in Japan can only crank out 5000 packs a month and they need to be shared among the Leaf and three Renault models which in turn need to be shared by many markets. That just doesn't leave that many for the US. Source:http://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-sales-dip-to-2012-lows-with-370-units-sold-ghosn-urges-patience/
        SVX pearlie
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Electron
        "the Leaf's sales woes are still supply related" I doubt that very much. Nissan can build a lot of Leaf. I suspect it's: 1. currency related 2. demand related.
          SVX pearlie
          • 8 Days Ago
          @SVX pearlie
          I completely agree that range isn't an issue. 60 miles is enough for any regular commute, and every BEV beats that in spades. US production is really the same as currency - if the Yen exchange weren't terrible, Smyrna wouldn't matter.
          PR
          • 8 Days Ago
          @SVX pearlie
          I'm thinking 1) Currency related 2) US Factory production related distant 3) demand related distant 4) range related I think the strategy of building more Leafs at the US plant and selling at a higher profit (mostly because of currency) has a huge impact on the Leaf's rollout. Demand may be dropping in some early release states. But in other states, Leaf sales are STILL being limited to folks who are still on waiting lists: "Published Saturday May 12, 2012 Couple owns Nebraska's first Leaf Roger and Nicole Paulman on Friday became the owners of an “ocean blue,” all-electric Nissan Leaf, the first sold and delivered in Nebraska. To finally get the keys to their environmentally friendly Leaf was a welcome end to a plodding, two-year process that involved a waiting list to get the new, $38,000 sedan. “It actually exceeds our expectations — which is really hard to do given the buildup of two years waiting,”" http://www.omaha.com/article/20120512/NEWS01/305129985
        DaveMart
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Electron
        Renault only sold a couple of thousand EV cars in France in the first 3 months of the year, so unless they are producing a lot of Fluences for Israel or something it does not seem to be a massive drain on their battery capacity.
      SVX pearlie
      • 2 Years Ago
      Smyrna is coming on line in Q4. That's the low point of USDM sales, and a poor time to demo a BEV with a heat pump vs a ICE with tons of *real* heat. Also, it's a new plant, so I doubt they'll build full-bore in the first month or two. 2012 Leaf sales are going to suck hard.
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