Honda is massaging the 2013 Accord line with more modern gearboxes and trims to match its more modern design (the non-conceptual version of which still has yet to be seen). In addition to the six-speed manual replacing the five-cogger currently offered on four-cylinder models, the folks at the Temple of VTEC forum have found an order sheet indicating a CVT will be available on mid-range LX, EX and EX-L models. For the enthusiasts hoping for the manual to return to the V6 sedan, no dice – the 6AT is what you'll get.

The sheet also omits the sedan's current SE trim slotted between the LX and EX, and in its stead is a Sport trim. It can be had with either the manual or the CVT, but it's not listed with the "navi" option. The coupe's trims remain the same. When we can put these specs together with the actual 2013 car, then we'll start to guess how it will far against its archfoe, the Toyotal Camry.


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      jessesrq
      • 2 Years Ago
      I'm curious to see what the "TRG" designation brings. I assume that is a Touring trim level like on the Odyssey, not a wagon like the TSX. (too bad!) If this adds content and cost to the $32k EX-L Navi trim level on the 2012 Accord, then it appears Honda is using the top Accord as sort of a replacement for the soon to depart TSX V-6. Not sure I get the logic of crowding TL pricing, but hopefully it works for Honda.
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      Nick
      • 2 Years Ago
      So misleading.... the Accord WILL be offered with a Manual in the V6 in the coupe! Just not the sedan. And the CVT is newly developed and praised by C&D and Motortrend as being non cvt-like.
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          NightFlight
          • 2 Years Ago
          Coming from someone that has literally over 10 log in names at this point. Right.
          NightFlight
          • 2 Years Ago
          You are seriously calling ME a troll? LOL It is a CVT transmission, unless it doesn't operate like every single CVT ever produced, I won't like it.
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          NightFlight
          • 2 Years Ago
          Just an FYI, not a single one of my posts has been removed. On the other hand, many of your multiple accounts have been banned.
          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          NightFlight - Why do you care? If you're going to bother with a self-shifter, you shouldn't care about gears or lack thereof, because you never controlled them to begin with. This is why CVTs aren't selling worse than traditional autos Auto customers DGAF.
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      billfrombuckhead
      • 2 Years Ago
      CVT? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        NightFlight
        • 2 Years Ago
        @billfrombuckhead
        Bill, you are such an idiot. Did you forget that your beloved Mopar sources its CVT transmissions from Jatco? Do you know who owns Jatco, Nissan. Now shut up and sit down.
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      NightFlight
      • 2 Years Ago
      I can't stand how CVTs operate, it grates on my every nerve when accelerating. I don't care how "good" they are either, you aren't going to convince me. That, and the replacement costs for these units (that have a higher failure rate) are astronomical compared to the proven traditional automatic. It is a lose-lose situation in my book. My '99 GS-R that was bought new was one of my most favorite vehicles of all time. Where's the Honda that I knew and loved?
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        @NightFlight
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          NightFlight
          • 2 Years Ago
          It is a CVT, they all function the same.
          Mondrell
          • 2 Years Ago
          He doesn't have to test drive it to know that it is apt to share operating traits inherent to every other CVT on the market.
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          NightFlight
          • 2 Years Ago
          Honda can't even make anything to compete with a MS3. Nothing.
          NightFlight
          • 2 Years Ago
          So that's your excuse? That's funny, they still make the Civic, and the 9th gen has been an utter disaster. No one is interested in the Si anymore because it is an also-ran. They have left the "ricer" crowd to Mazda? Haha, riiiight. Honda is the epitome of a ricer vehicle and always will be as long as the Civic is around.
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          ClementZ
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          @NightFlight - It's not like Honda would even want to produce anything with the astronomical torque steer of a MS3. Lol. 9th gen? Disaster? Sales have been literally raping every competitor, and actual customers find nothing wrong with it. The only people who complain are reviewers, and that's because they all expected something REALLY new.
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      Jared Montgomery
      • 2 Years Ago
      I don't get why people are complaining about the CVT on the 4-cylinder (not even offered on the V6) when Honda still offers a manual transmission at most trim levels in this new model. Try getting a manual in a Sonata or Camry. Aren't most people who hate this CVT going to buy a manual anyway? I say if it's going to be an automatic, I don't really care whether it has actual ratios or not. I'd just rather have a manual, and I'm glad Honda still offers it.
        BG
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        @Jared Montgomery
        That is true. If a buyer is an appliance car-type of person, technical complexities like the type of transmission or number of cylinders is immaterial. As long as he/she can sit down, insert key or electronic fob, mash a lever into "" and floor it, all is well.
      ELG
      • 2 Years Ago
      also reveals complete Kia Optima ripoff
        desinerd1
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        @ELG
        I see it now. You what what they say - good artists copy, great artists steal.
      Differentberries
      • 2 Years Ago
      It is malaise indeed. Hondas used to be interesting, svelte, and fun to drive. CVTs are soul ******* hell boxes. There is no fun to be had in a car equipped with one.
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          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          Differentberries - So you can drive stick, yet are complaining about the CVT, when manual is an option? Are you just looking for things to complain about or something?
          Differentberries
          • 2 Years Ago
          My stroked Porsche 928 has a 5 speed dog leg gearbox. Nice try.
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        suthrn2nr
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        @Differentberries
        as opposed to regular automatics that were such a blast? The only time I have a lot of fun driving is with a good stick shift. But even CVT's can have simulated gears that shift faster than shiftable automatics. I'm more concerned about less options for buying stick shifts as I'm not an AT customer to begin with and could not care about auto cogs vs CVT.
          Jared Montgomery
          • 2 Years Ago
          @suthrn2nr
          I totally agree. If you're lifeless enough to buy an auto, who the hell cares if it has separate gears. Get the manual, people, and be glad Honda still offers them.
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          ClementZ
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          @suthrn2nr
          Captain Spadaro - Correct me if I'm wrong, but the automatic transmissions that you are referring to are DCT with paddles. Honda isn't going to put that into a FWD family sedan. That'd be weird.
        mapoftazifosho
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Differentberries
        Sorry I don't drive a Corvette with 6 puck clutch during my soul-less commute everyday. I must not be a real car guy...
      untitledfolder
      • 2 Years Ago
      Oh riveting Honda... a CVT. Whats next? You'll bless us with a 10 year old fuel-injected naturally aspirated heavy v6 making two-hundred some horsepower? Truly the brand of enthusiasts..........
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          piggybox
          • 2 Years Ago
          Those 4-bangers are not designed for enthusiasts. I really don't understand how their opinions matter for an average consumer product.
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          NightFlight
          • 2 Years Ago
          Because replacing timing belts is a costly service and a thing of the past. Coming from someone who owned a J32 equipped vehicle, with a manual....
          ClementZ
          • 2 Years Ago
          The average consumer DGAF about SOHC or DOHC or pushrod or chains or belts. SOHCs are quieter, lighter and have less rotating mass. Honda has DOHC engines, and could easily drop one into the Accord, if they feel the need to. But they don't. Because no customer has ever walked into a dealership with the intention of buying a car, and then walked out because the engines were SOHC instead of DOHC.
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          IBx27
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          Forget just going the CVT route, look at how hideous and boring their cars are. They certainly had to try hard to make the new car look like the old one, but much worse. The previous gen. accords with the triangular headlights still look much sharper and newer.
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      desinerd1
      • 2 Years Ago
      Overall, it looks nice, much better than Civic and Toyota Camry. Doesn't Hyundai use similar wheels on Genesis: http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/resize/960x638/quality/85/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/06/09-2012-hyundai-genesis-r-spec-fd-1308632561.jpg And the headlights are copied from Lexus GS http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/resize/960x638/quality/85/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/12/06-2013-lexus-gs-45h-fd.jpg
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