The 2013 Scion FR-S doesn't have the kind of power that results in jaw-dropping dyno numbers, but any naturally aspirated 2.0-liter four cylinder that promises 200 horsepower and 151 pound-feet of torque needs to be vetted out.

The good people at Edmunds Inside Line did the vetting, and the hotly anticipated Scion model performed, well, predictably. The FR-S delivered what Edmunds called "the most repeatable runs on the dyno of any car in recent memory," with peak wheel power measuring 173 horsepower at 7,000 RPM and 143 pound-feet of torque at 2,500 revolutions. Keep in mind that these numbers are at the wheels, not at the crankshaft where factory numbers are recorded.

One interesting stat that showed up on the line graph was a 14-percent drop in torque between 3,200 and 4,500 RPM. This was reportedly done by engineers on purpose to increase driving pleasure lower in the rev range, which sounds like a solid compromise to us. Hit the jump to watch the video, and make sure to turn up your speakers for optimal boxer four enjoyment.


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      RodRAEG
      • 3 Years Ago
      If all you focus on is numbers, then you must have some issues with self confidence and you're projecting through your car. This car is not about hp. It's about handling and feel. Have you heard reviewers compare the Mustang's handling and feedback to a lotus or a Porsche Cayman? No. Have you heard them say it about the Hyundai Genesis? No. Have you heard that kind of comparison for an of the other cars you can get in this price range? No. The Toyoburu is the only car(s) I've heard about in this price range where reviewers gush over the feel of the car and compare to to the likes of Lotus and Porsche. I've posted before on here about driving faster cars than this, and some of them were not enjoyable at all. Worst experience was in a C4 Corvette. Driving it felt more like a chore than having fun, and why would you want that in a sports car?
        • 3 Years Ago
        @RodRAEG
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          bk
          • 3 Years Ago
          Scion doesn't just have a special car on its hands -- it's got a potential smash hit that can be enjoyed by many. It is a car that will likely redefine the Scion brand and the entry-level enthusiast car segment as a whole, too. Take note, kids: Having the fastest, most enjoyable car doesn't mean having the most powerful or the priciest. The FR-S is what budget-themed performance is all about. Don't believe me? All it takes is four laps.
          Ron
          • 3 Years Ago
          It wasn't in 1985.
          TangoR34
          • 3 Years Ago
          I don't think 167hp/ton is underpowered at all.
      Patch
      • 3 Years Ago
      It's the first year. Take the Porsche 986 Boxster for example: it started out with 201 HP in 1999, and grew to 266 HP (Boxster S) by the end of its cycle. Putting faith that Toyota isn't gonna pull a play out of the Honda handbook (ie. NSX, S2000... may they rest in peace), they would do something similar. Long story short, there appears to be plenty of room for further development on this car. Fans will buy now, skeptics will be won over by updates and buy later, and the rest will just buy something else. Life goes on.
      BlackDynamiteOn
      • 3 Years Ago
      If 5-600 lbs less than the competition, and finely tuned handling dynamics are your thing, Scion/Subaru has a car for you. If you need 300HP to have fun, look elsewhere..... BD
      Frisky_Dingo
      • 3 Years Ago
      Aside from the dip in the torque curve to allow for easier low speed driving, that's a very respectable dyno graph as far as I'm concerned. Especially considering this is only a 2.0 NA 4 cylinder. That is actually a quite flat torque curve. I'd personally prefer a softer bottom end in exchange for a meatier mid range, but a tune could easily fix that. I'm betting a few bolt ons will really wake this thing up and make it a supremely fun car.
        AcidTonic
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Frisky_Dingo
        The problem is the engine internals are likely junk. Why? Because they only have to hold 200hp and there's no turbo so no over-engineering. To get 400whp without a rebuild is likely not possible. Or it may last 5 seconds. That's why this should have came with 300hp, because I want at least 400 after the turbo goes on. Evo's can run 400-500 all day long. Let's hope rebuilds are cheap.... Until then I'll stick with a 2.0 that comes with 300hp stock and easily can handle 400-500hp. Ala Evo.
      TangoR34
      • 3 Years Ago
      Let the keyboard warriors start trolling about the lack of power it's got...
      EJD1984
      • 3 Years Ago
      To me this car seems to be the spiritual successor to the 1970s Celica Coupe 2200 GT. :-)
      • 3 Years Ago
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      msspamrefuge
      • 3 Years Ago
      I have to admit that I'm not too wild about that fall-off between 3,200-4,500 RPM, though. I'll have to see if it's as bad as it seems on paper, but I'd take a strong mid-high range over a low range that declines at passing RPM.
      Luke
      • 3 Years Ago
      a picture of the curves would have been nice
        Maddoxx
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Luke
        U can goto edmunds inside line to get the graph chart, very unimpressive
      DMS502
      • 3 Years Ago
      ***** weak! This car will require a turbo kit to make any real power (another 5 grand atleast). By then its a $30k car... could have bought something other than a Toyota. I'm sure nobody wants to hear it, but its the truth.
      Maddoxx
      • 3 Years Ago
      Have fun driving through the twisties slowly and then getting passed up by ever other car...
        flammablewater
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Maddoxx
        You know that driving quickly through turns has nothing to do with power right? Do you even drive a car?
        Travisty
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Maddoxx
        Says someone who's never even driven it...
          Maddoxx
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Travisty
          You haven't driven it either as same wirh most people on this blog, I'm sure when you do drive it you'll be disappointed with how slow the acceleration is.
        Fermat1313
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Maddoxx
        Totally missing the point. Fun to drive does not necessarily require tons of power. I have two cars, a BMW 1M and a Toyota MR2 Spyder. The MR2 only has about 143 hp, and it's not a speed demon, but it's very light and is a blast to drive, especially when curves are involved. Despite the power and immense capability of the 1M, the MR2 provides a more "pure" driving experience. I feel the road better and feel very connected to the car. The point is, a car doesn't need to have a lot of power to be very fun to drive. I love both of my cars, in different ways and for different reasons.
      dfsdfsdfd
      • 3 Years Ago
      This is the Ultimate Excuse Car. If you think it's bad here, try going to ricer forums like ScionLife. All those fanboy ricers swear by this car but not one has test driven it, let alone sat in one. It's amazing how ignorant people are and how much excuses are used for an underpowered, overpriced, overhyped Toyota car that really Subaru developed. For everyone wanting driving feel, you can pick up a used BMW 135i/BMW E46M3/Chevrolet C5Z06 at that price range and get a real drivers feel of a car without being embarrassingly slow. For those people who talk crap about a Mustang, the 5.0 is comparable to the E92 M3 around a track... and is only a few grand more than the fr-slow. If you need a slow car to drive "fast" around turns, than your driving skills must be god awful. The price of this car made me laugh. The power made me laugh. I can't wait to see track times so I can laugh even more. The only way this car would be respectable is if it had a LSX under the hood.
        WindsWilling
        • 3 Years Ago
        @dfsdfsdfd
        Pretty much, and don't look now, you caught the attention of some mindless drone from ft86club or whatever. They're probably going to retort with some nonsense and think they're right. The car is pathetically slow and there's no excuse for that considering the R&D behind it. The minute they release a turbo or supercharged version, watch the lemmings change their tune on power.
        RedHoodJT
        • 3 Years Ago
        @dfsdfsdfd
        Hahahahhaa! Comment of the Year! +10
        x0
        • 3 Years Ago
        @dfsdfsdfd
        Its all about balance, not raw power.
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