As a candidate, Barack Obama promised to try and get a million plug-in vehicles on U.S. roads by 2015. In his State of the Union address in 2011, he repeated that number and proposed turning the $7,500 tax credit into a point-of-purchase rebate. That hasn't yet happened, but in the President's proposed budget that was released this week, Obama took another stab at promoting plug-ins: upping the maximum credit to $10,000.

To go along with pushing PHEVs, the budget calls for cutting more subsidies that Big Oil currently enjoys. Of course, the President's political opponents quickly called the proposal nothing more than a "campaign document" that would divide America. Others are proposing that the PHEV tax credit be eliminated entirely.

Getting to a million plug-ins in four years will be tough. Last year, the top two plug-ins, the Chevrolet Volt and the Nissan Leaf, sold just 17,345 units, combined. Add in sales of the Tesla Roadster and the new Mitsubishi i, and that leaves 980,000 or so to go. Do you think an extra $2,500 off the price of the car – plus more models to choose from – will do the trick?


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      vietnamvet1967
      • 2 Years Ago
      The Governemnt , BS that is taxpayers money Obama wants to spend, a Credit give me a break
        StevenG
        • 2 Years Ago
        @vietnamvet1967
        Did you complain loudly when Bush signed the prescription drug plan into effect? EV car subsidy: $1.5 Billion max Prescription drugs, 2009-2018, no end in sight: $727 Billion Are you 484 times madder about that? The EV subsidy is a pittance compared to what Bush gave away... P.S. Bush created the EV subsidy, but don't let facts get in the way...
      vtmilitia
      • 2 Years Ago
      More taxpayer money for a failed government mandated idea. This is why politicians should not try to be businessmen.
        StevenG
        • 2 Years Ago
        @vtmilitia
        I supposed you support ending the child tax deduction and mortgage interest deduction too?
      the aol experien
      • 2 Years Ago
      So we borrow a few billion more to send 10k to each person who can afford a $30,000 - $40,000 dollar car that will go 30 – 40 miles per day all in the name of buying American. Another brilliant idea brought to you by your current administration.
        Grendal
        • 2 Years Ago
        @the aol experien
        Actually, brought to you by the Bush administration.
        StevenG
        • 2 Years Ago
        @the aol experien
        My Volt has infinite range, I can drive it 1,000 miles in one day if I feel like it. A Volt is $32,500 after the current tax rebate. The average new car sells for $29k in the US. Its not even *close* to be expensive.
          banstaman
          • 2 Years Ago
          @StevenG
          You sure about that? If batteries last only 40 miles, and then from there on you have about 300 miles of gas, and you have to recharge which takes several hours each day, I would highly doubt that's "infinite" range where you can drive "1,000 miles in one day." Range is the distance you can go WITHOUT any replenishment from an external source.
          Grendal
          • 2 Years Ago
          @StevenG
          bansta You're being picky. StevenG was responding to aol's post saying his Volt can only go 40 miles a day. Very untrue. StevenG was trying to say that he can fill his Volt with gas and drive anywhere a standard gas car can go.
      tmoschetti
      • 2 Years Ago
      Government? Don't you mean we taxpayers! The only money the government has is what it extorts from us! And if we wait long enough, he'll just give us the cars! What a farce this clueless dolt is. IF ANYONE WANTED THIS JOKE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY YOU $10,000 OR TEN CENTS TO BUY IT! How much does Apple pay people to take Apple products off their hands. How did this economic illiterate ever get elected president in a country that he doesn't even understand!
        StevenG
        • 2 Years Ago
        @tmoschetti
        If you're that pissed off, leave. No one is keeping you here. You hate government and taxes? Head to Somalia, let me know how it works out for you.
      crdenture
      • 2 Years Ago
      with borrowed chinese money? Does no one in washington realize we are broke?
      clomba9296
      • 2 Years Ago
      Until they can increase the miles driven on a charge, increase the size of the vehicle to accommodate a family and lower the initial price, we're not buying.
        StevenG
        • 2 Years Ago
        @clomba9296
        I'm not buying a 911 until it can pull my boat.
      Ken
      • 2 Years Ago
      What about the higher gas mileage that cars in the next 5-10 years are required to have? I guess they don't think everyone will buy elecric vehicles even then....However, T.Boone Pickens said that changing trucks, fleet vehicles(government vehicles)to running on Natural Gas, well decrease the need for oil right away...
      Crazy things
      • 2 Years Ago
      People wake up. That money is ours in the first place. Thats where the Government forgets that we who pay taxes, dont want them to spend our money on such CRAP. As GREEN ENERGY. It produces more carbon in the air from the batteries when charging, when driving, when disposing of. Nobody wants those crappy Sh#@y cars anyway. Stop wasting our tax dollars. Another place to go Bankrupt. All it is is Obama is buying votes. Yes buying votes. Look at all the food stamp people. If there were decent jobs available. Most of the people would be off of those and working. They dont want to be collecting food stamps and un-employment at home they woud rather be working.
        untitledfolder
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Crazy things
        "It produces more carbon in the air from the batteries when charging, when driving, when disposing of." Your post smacks of bias and has no cited, qualified sources to prove this (really? it produces more carbon while CHARGING?). It reads as though you just made up 'truthisms' and don't have any background in the science at all, only talking points. Also, you end sentences on prepositions which means you're probably a babbling idiot.
      McHoffa
      • 2 Years Ago
      For the most part I'm against government subsidizing any industry... the market should sort it out... but since we've subsidized oil for so long, we should probably at least give alternate energy sources a fair shake to get us on the first step toward getting away from heavy oil usage... or we could just stop subsidizing oil usage completely and see how fast people want to switch to gas free cars...
      zanarditypes
      • 2 Years Ago
      Add in the Fusion, Prius, and Accord plug-in models, and this number should start rising rather rapidly.
        StevenG
        • 2 Years Ago
        @zanarditypes
        Plug-in Prius doesn't qualify for $10k, and I doubt the Fusion will either.
          StevenG
          • 2 Years Ago
          @StevenG
          StevenG has a degree in Aerospace Engineering, and yes, I realize an MPG figure for car mostly powered by electricity is contrived. I'm getting 33 KWh per 100 miles (that's become the standard for electric car efficiency, not Joules per mile), and I expect the Fusion will do pretty much the same, Ford builds cars in the same universe, so the same laws of aerodynamics and thermodynamics apply. However, if the Fusion has a smaller battery (I think it will be half the size of the Volt), it will return a lower effective MPG.
          q3a7vodk4
          • 2 Years Ago
          @StevenG
          STOP USING MPG_E_. It's effectively unit-less. Then people like SteveG come along and completely misunderstand it. Please give your figures in Joules per mile. Eg: Nissan leaf - 24kwhr battery, 73mile range on the EPA test cycle 24kwhr / 73 miles = 0.33kwh/mile OR 1.2 Mega Joules (MJ) per mile.
          StevenG
          • 2 Years Ago
          @StevenG
          Ford hasn't revealed the battery size. My Volt is returning 280 MPG so far.
          Toujou
          • 2 Years Ago
          @StevenG
          Ford said their Fusion expects to get at least get 100 MPGe. So if I had the money for a plug-in it would, be the Fusion. Proof: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/09/2013-ford-fusion-energi-detroit-2012/
      timkunk
      • 2 Years Ago
      To any one who owns a volt, or is thinking about getting one. volt $39K+ 37 miles per gallon (chevy estimate) 2012 Ford Focus SFE $18,300 base 28 city 40 hy(EPA) 2011 Chevrolet Cruze Eco $18,895 loaded 40hy(EPA) To be even with ether car which get 3 miles more per gallon highway then the volt. the brake even would be if the volt got only 27 miles on it's charge. 9 gal. x 40 = 360 miles (gal limited to volts) 9gal x 37 = 333 miles (the volt can only carry 9 gallons) the volt gets 333 27miles less then only gas you get 35 miles(EPA) per 4 hour charge for a total gain of 35 -27 = 8 miles! not per gallon but 8 miles total! the volt get better gas mileage. or 9 / 8 = 1.125mpg more then the none electric. 35miles / 4 hours = 8.75 miles per 1 hour charge time If your battery drops to 70% charge capability over 3 years (that's the slowest i have seen the drop) per charge time, you will only get 24.5 miles per 4 hour charge or 3.5 miles LESS then needed to make the same miles per gallon. hope the 4 hour charge is worth it!
        Phil
        • 2 Years Ago
        @timkunk
        I'm really confused by all of your fancy math. A friend of mine owns a Chevy Volt. He purchased his when they first released. He only lives 6 miles from where he works. Everything he needs to live is within 15 miles of his house. He bought the quick charge unit which is mounted in his garage. He charges the vehicle over night. Since his purchase he has not spent ONE DIME on gas. Not a single dime. Also, his electric bill has gone up an average of .15...that's 15 cents. Owning an electric vehicle is best if you do not do a lot of driving. My friend is saving up to 200 bucks every month now (according to him). Federal and state tax credits brought the price of the vehicle down and he paid the rest in cash. So I respect all of your fancy math, but since I don't drive a lot, and virtually nothing long distance, I'll be picking up Volt soon. I'll take not buying any gas any day....
        StevenG
        • 2 Years Ago
        @timkunk
        You're way off, the battery is warrantied to be at 80% capacity after 8 years and 100,000 miles. Why are you so worried about range? The Volt can be refueled like any other car, I can drive it 1,000 miles in one day if I want to, and I will in a few months. The Volt gets 25-50 miles on a charge, and 38 MPG on gas regardless of speed. I'm getting an effective 280 MPG after 5 months of driving a Volt.
      Sylvie
      • 2 Years Ago
      Would subsidizing natural gas fueled automobiles make as much sense?
        frankmyers
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Sylvie
        I do not believe we need to subsidize whether it be the corn industry, oil, natural gas, nuclear, coal, auto, or whatever. Subsidizing is just putting our tax dollars into industry's pockets, regardless what industry that may be.
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