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Well, that didn't take long. The First Toyota FT-86 (a.k.a. Scion FR-S) has made its way to the dyno courtesy of the good people at HKS. How'd it do? The vehicle managed to spin the rollers at 170 rear-wheel horsepower, which dovetails with the 200 crank horsepower announced by Toyota and Subaru after calculating a 15-percent driveline loss. Of course, whenever HKS gets involved, you can feel safe betting your lunch money that forced induction won't be far behind. True to form, HKS showed off its handiwork on a drift car version of the new sports coupe from Toyota.

The FT-86 looks more than happy to dance through a few chicanes sideways, and we can't wait to see the vehicle go fender-to-fender with the best of them. Click past the jump to check out the dyno video for yourself.



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      Alex Butti
      • 3 Years Ago
      This car was engineered with HANDLING in mind. For those of you that keep saying that the 86 needs an LS, you failed to understand that this car is NOT about power. Power these days is easy to find. Slap on few bolt ons and a turbo! Another point nobody made is: you think Nissan is gonna sit around and watch Toyota selling those things? I guarantee you Nissan will mention the intention to produce a S16 (if you will) in the next couple of years. This should help an otherwise stalled tuning market. Exciting times ahead of us.
        Elmo
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Alex Butti
        You failed to realize that they were only talking about throwing an LS engine into one just for the hell of it, not for the reason of giving it more power. EVERY RWD car known to man has had an LS swap, only time will tell before this one gets an LS.
          Alex Butti
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Elmo
          Elmo, you are an idiot, thru and thru. People that want to swap an LS into a BRZ/ FR-S, do so because they want more power, not "just for the hell of it." Put down the keyboard and go back playing with Barbie.
        Elmo
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Alex Butti
        Now you're going to resort to name calling. Awesome. So you know what people think when they're doing engine swaps? Because that would be a douche thing to do. I think you're just coming after me like that because you seem to think that you still have Fried_Troll to back you up under his Rant_Master name. But yet again, it seems he's banned. Oh well, I guess you can wait around for his new account.
        Ron
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Alex Butti
        Alex, I agree that handling is important, (and in no way do I think this car needs an LS V8), but power in this car will be harder to find than you think, a few bolt on's will not net you a whole lot of power, and you don't simply slap on a turbo... especially with 12.5:1 compression ratio and the DS4 direct injection... Not to mention , I don't think you can expect the rods to take that much abuse given the design of this car, and it's engine to be a high rev. N/A, the reduction of the rotating mass would of been important to the engineers, and there are two ways do do that; make parts weaker, or make them from much more expensive materials... Given the price point, I think it is safe to say we shouldn't expect the later. To convert this motor to a higher output F/I engine will require a major rework; a decrease in compression ratio, fuel system, tuning, and likely upgraded internals (in additon to all the supporting mods; exhaust, intercooler, increased cooling etc. etc.) Doing this at the factory would only increase the production costs of the car by 1-2k, doing it post production via the after-market in all reality would easily cost half (if not as much) as much as the entire car from the dealership.... That is why getting a factory F/I motor from the factory is so important to so many, and why so many are disappointed. Power is not everything, but it is a big part of turning out good lap times. Anyone that is following this car is not looking for power at the expense of handling, but then again we are not looking for handling at the expense of power... Cheers
      ryanandrewmartin
      • 3 Years Ago
      Gah! That car looks so good.
      trumpet1dude
      • 3 Years Ago
      save yourself some time and just skip to the 6 min mark
      404 not found
      • 3 Years Ago
      I am REALLY digging the silver with black wheels.. O_O
      Jorsher
      • 3 Years Ago
      Cool. I'll stick with the S2000.
      over9000
      • 3 Years Ago
      underpowered
      Radioactive Flea
      • 3 Years Ago
      Stop lying to yourselves. 200hp is pathetic.
      Adam
      • 3 Years Ago
      This car needs at least 30-50 more horsepower. The design is writing checks it can't cash. I understand it's light and nimble, but 170hp is weak these days no matter how you slice it.
        thedriveatfive
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Adam
        Yep, with 330hp Z's and 400+ Hp mustangs this thing wont be able to hang with the quickness.
          Elmo
          • 3 Years Ago
          @thedriveatfive
          This isn't competing with the Z or Mustang. So get that out of your head.
        oRenj9
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Adam
        Buy a Z car and go pick on BRZ drivers. Then you can pretend you penis is as big as you think it is.
      • 3 Years Ago
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        Gator
        • 3 Years Ago
        Your ******* stupid! The car only weighs 2500lb I was lucky enough to drive one. It feels just as good, if not better than a s2000. This is a tuner's car with lot of potential. The tires are only 215s all around. Imagine some 245's, this car is a total handling monster. The power feels nice and liner and the interior is awesome for the price.
          torqued
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Gator
          @lamazing - No. From everything I've read, it has a very good and usable power band.
          Jorsher
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Gator
          Seems like a lot of people have forgotten about the 2004-2009 S2000 and only seem to remember the 2000-2003 AP1. F22C had a much more usable powerband than the F20C, and probably more usable than this one...
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Gator
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          IBx27
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Gator
          His stupid? My stupid? You're stupid.
          Ron
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Gator
          The curb weight of the production FR-S has not been released as of yet, however the Subaru BRZ's curb weight is confirmed at 2770 lbs, and the estimated curb weight for the FR-S is 2700-2800 lbs... The MX-5's curb weight is 2447 lbs to 2511 lbs depending on trim level, perhaps you were confused?
      Ron
      • 3 Years Ago
      Can't wait for a version with some balls....
      KaiserWilhelm
      • 3 Years Ago
      170hp to the road in a 2700lbs car? Thats pretty good. Fox body Mustangs with the 5.0 in the old days used to put down about 180 on a dyno, and nobody ever called those things slouches (unless you were a mullet wearing Camaro driver)
        Matt
        • 3 Years Ago
        @KaiserWilhelm
        That is about the same WHP my V6 Mazda 6 makes, but the 86 weighs 600 pounds less. Torque won't be the same, but should be fine.
        Sheldon
        • 3 Years Ago
        @KaiserWilhelm
        So your argument is that it's competitive with a ~25 year old car?
          KaiserWilhelm
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Sheldon
          I'm just trying to explain to you knuckle-draggers that this thing has plenty of power for its size and weight, not every car needs a fire breathing mega motor to be fun to drive.
        ramairjer
        • 3 Years Ago
        @KaiserWilhelm
        Yeah, but that was 1987. This is 2012.
        rmkensington
        • 3 Years Ago
        @KaiserWilhelm
        I had a supercharged miata I just sold recently. Had around 215hp. While the handling was a blast I still hated how slow it was. 170 in this ft86 is not bad for most people, but enthusiasts will be bored very quickly. Especially when you get smoked by a V6 mustang that costs about the same. However, if the aftermarket companies make a decent supercharger kit thats affordable this car could be sweet.
        gary
        • 3 Years Ago
        @KaiserWilhelm
        I agree, that's pretty decent. The Honda S2000 was in the low 190s at the wheels and, if the published curb weights of the new car are to be believed, weighed about 100 lbs more. This car ought to deliver over 90% of the performance of an S2000 for less money, especially when you factor in inflation. Presumably the powerband will be smoother too, without the jekyll/hyde dance around the VTEC changeover point. I'm anxious to drive one.
          fivesix7eight
          • 3 Years Ago
          @gary
          @gadflyjczc Yet a 13 year old s2000 is still one hundred times more fun to drive than a 2011 Mustang V6. Your argument is weak because an s2000 is still very capable and competitive against a lot of today's "sports" cars. Not to mention the FR-S is not a "cutting edge" car, besides the model year there's nothing new about it. It's automotive nostalgia from a time when cars were appreciated for their balance, handling, and affordability not the size of the engine, horsepower, and tech. Despite all the new crash and emissions regulations Toyota/Subaru was able to engineer a car that compact with a high-revving 2.0L H4 -- THAT is something to be proud of.
          Ron
          • 3 Years Ago
          @gary
          As Sheldon said above, your argument is that this new cutting edge car is competitive with a 13 year old, now out of production Honda? Call me crazy but that really does not seam like something to be THAT proud of...
      • 3 Years Ago
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