City councils and state legislatures across the country are debating and passing initiatives to put traffic cameras on school buses. Rick Gresham, transportation director for the Cobb County school district in Georgia, told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that 1,100 motorists pass his school buses when the stop sign paddle is out every single day. The state of Maryland reported 7,200 such incidents in one day last year. For all the folks who want to see that bus-riding children get to class and home safely, that's a problem. So cities in places like Georgia, Connecticut, Maryland, Washington and Louisiana are talking to Redflex and American Traffic Solutions about mounting cameras on their buses' folding stop signs.

In the case of the potential Redflex system in Connecticut, for instance, the school districts would pay a set fee for each bus fitted with a camera. The cameras send a live feed of traffic in both directions to Redflex, where Redflex employees review it. If a motorist is caught violating the stop sign, an image and relevant information is sent to the police department. The school district would receive 82 percent of the ticket amount, the rest going to police and court costs.

A Harris study conducted on behalf of ACS, a Xerox company, found that 77 percent of adults polled supported installation of these cameras on school buses. ACS makes its own system called CrossSafe, so it's certainly interested in a particular result, but as others have said, it's hard to argue against child safety, so this may be the first application of traffic cameras we can really get behind.


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      Kevin Gregerson
      • 2 Years Ago
      I want a requirement that the bus driver must put out the sign so many seconds before stopping and tickets can't be issued beyond twice the second count unless procedure is followed. This prevents bus driver abuse of the system, and makes it fair to motorists. I've had times where these bus drivers will pull over and put the sign out 10 feet from me while I'm being tailgated going 35-40 which means I either risk ticket or death.
        Kevin Foreman
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Kevin Gregerson
        OMG Kevin! As a bus driver, you think my biggest concern is GETTING you? Get real! There is a system on a bus. They are called eight ways. At 300 ft prior to stopping the ambers are activated. THIS IS YOUR SIGNAL TO STOP! When the bus stops, the door is cracked so reds are activated. Once traffic is stopped, kids are let off the bus.
      Adamnski
      • 2 Years Ago
      I have actually been waived on by a bus driver when he had his stop sign out. Couldn't believe it
      Cruising
      • 2 Years Ago
      The sad thing is unless they plan on having spike strips shoot out from under the bus when it stops, no amount of visual policing will change the mentality of some drivers. Some people play chicken at a railroad crossing, only to end up losing there life. Why take the life of a child if you don't care about yours?
      Eric G
      • 2 Years Ago
      If it ONLY takes photos of people passing while the sign is out then I GUESS its fine. People should have the common sense to not drive around like that, no matter how late you are. Although I do think that something like this could do some good, possibly save a few lives, I'm more worried about where this could lead to. What else will our legislators want to bug? Maybe they can put sensors in our cars that alert the authorities that we are braking the law. and then they can send the ticket to your house. Sounds perfect.
      Shinkaze
      • 2 Years Ago
      AutoBlog, Rather than regurgitating political spin, how about we address the truth of the matter? something like "....In the news today, local government has figured out a yet another way of treating it's citizens as walking cash registers to fund local governments. City officials are quoted as being "excited" that by associating this latest initiative to dig hundreds of dollars out of tax payers wallots by labeling people as 'irresponsible child-endangering criminals'..."
        Fonin
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Shinkaze
        well it is illegal to pass with the sign out. how is this local govt funding? they are going to actually fine people for the infraction. this is not a redlight camera with questionable light timing, this is more like putting a cop at a stop sign to catch you if you don't stop. if you don't violate the stop, thne oyu don't get fined. or maybe you'd rather we quintuple the police force to enforce the laws at even greater expesne? now that is guilty before innocent.
        Randy
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Shinkaze
        Maybe because your suggestions is the one with political spin, general disdain and immaturity? Just guessing, I could be wrong!
          Michael
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Randy
          You are wrong. Shinkaze is absolutely right.
      stclair5211
      • 2 Years Ago
      More big brother police state. They shouldn't even have buses. That's the only thing Cali does right. You get your own fat kid to school, not the states problem.
      Fonin
      • 2 Years Ago
      some of the school buses here don't bother to put the sign out when they stop.
        Fonin
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Fonin
        wait, are the buses not using sign being down-rated, or is my post stating that they don't being down-rated? click happy fools.
      WillieD
      • 2 Years Ago
      Definitely a good idea. And 82% goes to the schools? That's excellent because the education system needs all the improvement it can get.
        TruthHertz
        • 2 Years Ago
        @WillieD
        We spend more on education than any school system in the world and yet have some of the worst results. The problem is not funding, it's the government controlled system. Instead it should be a government "supervised" system.
          WillieD
          • 2 Years Ago
          @TruthHertz
          I definitely agree with you, Michael. Bad parents are the main problem with educational development and it disgusts me how bad parents can be. "Oh, I'm supposed to take care of my kids after I birth 6 of them and teach them values? That's too much work!" That's basically their thinking.
          Michael
          • 2 Years Ago
          @TruthHertz
          The worst results is because we have retarded parents who don't teach their children respect and let their kid crap all over them and anyone else in a position of authority.
      Echelon Bob
      • 2 Years Ago
      No, it's not hard to argue against child "safety." This whole idea that school buses should be able to completely halt all traffic behind them is insane in the first place! Kids need to be taught to follow safety rules when crossing the street, not terrorize the rest of the population. The last thing kids need to be learning is that it's OK to run across the street. And bus drivers are not qualified nor desired to be traffic enforcement cops. Everybody would be better off if the parents took some responsibility for basic safety, and imprinted that ethic on their kids.
        clquake
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Echelon Bob
        While it's true that buses didn't always have stop signs, most states have a law in place that required drivers to stop when the school bus stops. Idiot drivers, I'm guessing like you since you're blaming school children for drivers not following the law, have been breaking this extremely important law for a long time. Quite frankly, if you're unable to stop when a large vehicle carrying children stops, then the fine should be loss of license and jail time, followed by some sort of procreation ban.
        Echelon Bob
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Echelon Bob
        BTW, before you complain that I must not have kids, remember that everyone was a kid once. Even all of us who grew up without riding special yellow buses with stop signs.
          Kevin Foreman
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Echelon Bob
          What a dumb ass! I drive a school bus, and people like you are why my job is so stressful. Please pass my bus, so I can call a parent and inform them their kid is dead. If you run into a bus daily, you just have to leave five minutes sooner. You will miss the bus. Oh, and if I could install spike strips I would....LOL
        sqparadox
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Echelon Bob
        You're suggesting that on a two lane road I should pass the stopped school bus in the opposite lane? Or is that the one time I stop behind the school bus? And on a four lane road I'm supposed to pass the bus on the left as it is stopped, leaving the children to cross three lanes of active traffic? Wow, why has no one thought of this, it sound soooo safe! If you can come up with a reasonably safe way for me to pass stopped school buses, I'm all for it. These are not such ways. I know! We build bridges/tunnels under/over the road at ever single individual school bus stop, thus eliminating the problem of children crossing the road once and for all.
      RocketRed
      • 2 Years Ago
      Another craven money grab by RedFlex and local officials. How soon before every public instrument, mobile or fixed, is turned into a cash register? Oh, yes, the money goes to the schools, after the RedFlex cut. I guess you hate children if you oppose this plan. Nice work, RedFlex lobbyists. Where is the research showing that school bus crossing incidents should the next danger we should spend public resources to abate? I guess that is simply replaced with a RedFlex business plan. Why don't we just go back to funding the state though public gambling and alcohol monopolies.
      getoffmydinghy
      • 2 Years Ago
      Oh joy. Another naked money grab disguised a safety initiative to "protect the citizens", this time with the added benefit of saying "DO IT FOR THE CHILDWEN!!!!" Remote ticketing cameras are the wave of the future. As long as the economy sucks, municipalities will continue to bleed motorists for money any way they can. It is our job as gearheads to fight as hard as possible to stop these efforts.
      Randy
      • 2 Years Ago
      I got an idea! Instead of cameras and ongoing costs, mount a railroad crossing gate arm type of thing to each bus. Lower it and block all traffic! This way nobody can get by! And for wider roads, have one that extends itself! Now there are no ongoing costs, the children are safe and traffic is stopped! That would be sick!!!!! :) LOL
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