Even if you can add fuel to your electric car to go for hundreds of miles, they're not fun if you don't have a good soundtrack. Fisker has enacted its second recall on its Karma in less than a month, this time for a software issue that causes the extended-range plug-in hybrid's entertainment and navigation system to malfunction, HybridCars has reported.

The company will stop sales on the Karma until the problem is fixed, Fisker spokesman Roger Ormisher told HybridCars. Neither the company nor the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has released an official statement on the recall.

The recall represents another setback for closely held Fisker, which pushed back the initial delivery date for the Karma at least four times since the September 2010 deadline company co-founder and chief executive Henrik Fisker first set for the car's debut.

Fisker, which finally started selling the Karma last year, recalled the car in late December because of battery-related safety issues. Specifically, the batteries, which are made by A123 Systems, were found to have potentially caused coolant leaks because of the positioning of the battery cover relative to the car's hose clamps. Fisker and NHTSA officially recalled 239 Karmas that were built between July 1 and November 3 of last year.


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      goodoldgorr
      • 2 Years Ago
      Erase these little fuss and walk away. Petrol is waiting to be displaced and replaced by solar energy and also by coal and natural gas and nuclear energy. How many miles a day can they do with the solar panel installed on the roof ?
        EVnerdGene
        • 2 Years Ago
        @goodoldgorr
        how big is your roof ?
          JeremyD
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EVnerdGene
          Oh yes, hes talking about the roof of the car... ok, that another deal then. Cool feature btw.
          Letstakeawalk
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EVnerdGene
          You can't be taking gorr seriously about that last question... The panel is enough to run the A/C to keep the interior cool, and isn't intended to provide any realistic power to the battery. But if you really are curious - Fisker says the panel provides enough power for about 4 or 5 miles a week. That's providing you don't use the power to cool/heat the car instead (which is actually a pretty good use). http://green.autoblog.com/2010/11/21/fisker-karma-solar-roof-production-to-begin-courtesy-of-quantum/
          JeremyD
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EVnerdGene
          Why not use the app I created to give you an idea how many panels you will need: http://www.empulsebuyer.com/pvCalculator.php I have not added any PHEVs yet though.
          EVnerdGene
          • 2 Years Ago
          @EVnerdGene
          run the AC ? Maybe ventilate the interior. If someone can give me a square foot or square whatever estimate, I'll make a most optimistic estimate of the max watts output and give you a feet per week you could drive the vehicle under the most ideal of conditions.
      Letstakeawalk
      • 2 Years Ago
      They're up to update 6.13 AFAIK... oh, I see that 6.14 is in the wings and that 6.15 is due by February. I have to admit, this is why I prefer mechanical interfaces over touchscreens and software controllers. Visteon has some serious explaining to do about their system: "Automotive supplier Visteon has started producing lighting and electronic products for the Fisker Karma, a premium electric vehicle with extended range (Ever). Visteon's components contribute to the Karma's sleek styling and performance, while maintaining Fisker's commitment to an environmentally conscious vehicle. The Karma includes the company's advanced infotainment platform that allows technologies to be quickly added and customized for any market. The new system provides onboard navigation, AM/FM/satellite radio, USB/iPod connectivity, and Bluetooth wireless technology audio streaming and hands-free phone functionality. The company has designed the user interface for all major vehicle infotainment and climate controls, accessed through a 10.2-inch haptic touch screen display that eliminates the need for mechanical dials and buttons, reducing materials and production tooling. Visteon global director of cockpit electronic technologies Christian Feltgen said Fisker Automotive and the company share a common vision for cost-effective, environmentally friendly automotive solutions, which is embodied in the products we are supplying on this breakthrough vehicle." http://www.automotive-business-review.com/news/visteon-starts-production-of-lighting-electronic-products-for-fisker-karma-hev-081111
      Dan Frederiksen
      • 2 Years Ago
      shouldn't be a problem to recall all 60 cars sold..
      Rotation
      • 2 Years Ago
      It's almost hard to talk of a recall given the car has actually barely even been sold. This car was way overhyped. Making this car work and be ecological was a very difficult task for such a small car company. And they seem to have failed on both.
        JeremyD
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rotation
        Funny thing about all this is that project NINA will take sales from the Karma... they may be very different cars, but who even knows at this point. Smart money is on waiting to see what the NINA is for half the price, before committing to the Karma. Brilliant move Fisker.
        marcopolo
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Rotation
        @Rotation failed...because the sound-sytem has a malfunction?
      JeremyD
      • 2 Years Ago
      "The company will stop sales on the Karma until the problem is fixed" That guy must be bummed... Sorry, couldn't resist. Hey Fisker, where is the NINA that you are apparently building this year...?
        Letstakeawalk
        • 2 Years Ago
        @JeremyD
        "The California-based company still plans to make prototypes of the new model at the refitted GM plant in Wilmington starting in late 2012, and to start selling the car to the public in mid-2013, said Fisker spokesman Roger Ornisher." "He said he was still expecting Fisker to meet its target of starting production from the new facility in the first quarter of 2013." http://www.delawarefirst.org/21486-fisker-delaware-plant-karma-recall
          Joeviocoe
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Letstakeawalk
          Has anyone seen a picture of this NINA yet? Usually, if a car is going to start pre-production in less than 1 year, an external design gets released by now.
          Letstakeawalk
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Letstakeawalk
          Nothing contradictory there. The line will be set up during 2012, and pre-production NINAs should be coming off the line by late 2012. Those pre-production runs are used to fine-tune the manufacturing line, and then actual production NINAs should be coming off the line by mid-2013. Kind of like how Tesla is building pre-production Model S on their line now, but the final production version is still a little ways off... There is still always the chance of delays, but that's how the automotive industry works.
          Letstakeawalk
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Letstakeawalk
          Yes, the NINA prototypes have been shown. The VPOTUS for one had some very kind words to say about it, describing it as "a four-door Ferrari". That was back in 2009... No, there have been no publicly released photos.
          JeremyD
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Letstakeawalk
          My bad I forgot production got pushed back: http://www.autoevolution.com/news/fisker-says-project-nina-will-enter-production-in-2012-39793.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisker_Automotive (They should update this too) http://greenlichen.com/2011/10/fisker-nina-only-by-mid-2013-battery-powered-car-termed-four-door-ferrari/ So they are still on target for a date recently pushed forward then back again, got it.
          JeremyD
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Letstakeawalk
          OK, thanks for the clarification. And thanks ABG for not deleting my comments for no particular reason.
        EZEE
        • 2 Years Ago
        @JeremyD
        :D
      PR
      • 2 Years Ago
      Yawn.
      • 2 Years Ago
      LOL, on my way to work a while back I saw one of these smoking badly like a chu chu train from the 1940’s, it was so bad the whole street was filled with smoke and I could barely see. Seemed like a scene from a movie. What a nice hybrid for the environment.
      motorhead
      • 2 Years Ago
      "One customer filed a formal complaint in December with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that appeared to be related to the software issue. In the complaint, the driver said that while driving the Karma at 35 mph, the car shut itself off, the brakes failed, all the lights on the dash lit up and the steering was impaired. There were no deaths or injuries."
        Letstakeawalk
        • 2 Years Ago
        @motorhead
        "The NHTSA said it would monitor the latest issue but had no plans to open an investigation at this time. The agency has not communicated with Fisker about the complaint. Ormisher said the company had not been contacted about the complaint, but added that it appeared to be related to the software malfunction."
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