Acura is bringing Goodies to the Detroit Auto Show – the capital "g" warranted for the NSX concept alone – but it has more aces in more sleeves: Car and Driver reports that the RL replacement is coming to the New York Auto Show. The RL is made up of some nice pieces, but even with heaps of cabin tech and SH-AWD it has never been able to outsmart its overwhelming anonymity – or its larger and less costly sibling, the TL.

The next round of RL is meant to bring a sedan that embodies Acura's brand values, in this case said to mean "relatively lightweight, nimble, and economical," and perhaps not called RL. It does not mean an eight-cylinder, however, with a V6 plus working the front wheels and two electric motors on duty at the rear. Space is said to rival a BMW 7 Series, while exterior dimensions will hover around those of the 5 Series. We just hope those dimensions are draped sheetmetal that's memorable for all the right reasons, not the wrong ones.

But Acura's lineup switch means there might not be enough room for both the TSX and TL (pictured) in between the new RL on top and the Civic-based ILX sedan coming in at the bottom C/D see the permutations of either sedan being pruned, even though, like us, they find it less believable that the solid-selling TL would disappear. It's posited that the new RL could change its name to TL, but that seems least plausible – after all, Prince already showed us how awful it would be to have to call your sedan "The Model Formerly Known As RL." More substantial answers will come in New York on April 4.


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        ThomasP
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        the TL is oversized; it is SUPPOSED to be the 3 series competitor.
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      redzebra
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      call it a Legend already. No knows what am 'RL' is but mention an Acura Legend and everyone knows what it was. Name recognition is everything in luxury marques.
        AP1_S2K
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        @redzebra
        "Name recognition is everything in luxury " I find that comment to be funny because regardless of recognition which isn't relegated only to Luxury marques, to go back to the "Legend" name actually isn't in line with branding of luxury vehicles - Mercedes, Infiniti, BMW, Audi, the list goes on and on with letter or number only designations: RL, S, C, G, M, SLS, A. I do agree with you that there's probably a lot more brand goodwil to the Legend name.... I love the 90's versions.
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          @AP1_S2K
          The Germans love there alphanumeric designations. Their success is what led Lexus and Infiniti to use those and Acura to switch over. I think that Acura still has the brand equitty in its model names to call back to them. It would be a great sign that they want to return to their sporty, attainable-luxury roots. Which i would welcome with open arms and wallet.
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          @AP1_S2K
          "its model names to call back to them. It would be a great sign that they want to return to their sporty, attainable-luxury roots." Very cool TP, yea, I hope so too.
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        @redzebra
        I had to Google Acura RL and RDX because I still don't remember what car is associated with these names. But I know what a Legend or Integra is. Stupid auto marketing people at Acura (or Lincoln) just won't admit when they're wrong.
          AP1_S2K
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          @GoSpeedRacerGo
          hahahahahahaha!! Me too.... plus, the vehicles themselves are very forgettable. There's only one lettered name I remember which is "NSX"!!!
      ICantDrive88
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      Well if they kill one of these, I'm likely screwed as a TSX Wagon lease holder... I need something to replace it with and the ISX or whatever is too small and the TL is too expensive. Maybe the RDX will decrease in price?
        CarCrazy24
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        @ICantDrive88
        Might just have to purchase that wagon at the end of lease...it's the nicest car in the Acura line-up so far
      Rob
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      almost 50% of the sales are SUV/CUV models. the whole car lineup needs to be redone and re thought and get rid of that ZDX. The 3.5 awd with the six speed is a good powertrain..that is where it ends
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      Krishan Mistry
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      Scrap the ugly Acuras, scrap the USA Honda garbage, and just bring over Honda euro models, as a global Honda. Pretty much anything branded as an Acura here has a slightly prettier, better named Honda equivalent overseas. EG TSX Sport Wagon=Accord Estate, doing without the cheesy looks of modern day Acura, and the low rent bleariness that USA Honda has embraced. The Acura brand isnt nearly as noteworthy as Lexus or Infiniti, mainly because it is just a North America special. Acura's historic best models were also called Hondas everywhere else, like Honda Integra, Honda NSX, etc.
      JasonERF
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      If the TSX or TL get axed it is because of a COLOSSAL FAILURE of the design team/product planners. They destroyed these once wonderful cars. Acura is truly lost. They should have a flagship. They should have a roadster. They should have a 3/A4/Cclass/CTS competitor They should have REAR WHEEL DRIVE as well as AWD They should have, for the love of Cardom, a friggin V8! Their supercar should not be a... gulp... hybrid... Their interior consoles shouldn't look like a wall of buttons. And... Most importantly (because their quality is already sorted).... THE CARS NEED to be PRETTY... Not some buck-toothed-beaver, edgy version of Bangle-butt design. Thank you. Anyone have anything to add? lol
        Chris Bangle
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        @JasonERF
        Seems like you're repeating an old script for the Acura brand. Times have changed a little. Acura doesn't need RWD. Audi is a prime example of a luxury company that's able to do it with FWD and AWD. A SH-AWD TSX with the RDX turbo 4 would be a great start as an A4/3 Class/IS competitor. Acura doesn't need a V8 anymore. 5 years ago, the answer would have been yes. Everyone is downsizing engines right now. Acura needs to use their turbo 4 in TSX and boost the 6 cylinder and offer it in everything the NA 6 is used in now. I won't fault Acura for a hybrid supercar, but if it's not as over the top as an LFA or an indisputable performance bargain like the GT-R, they can keep it.
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        @JasonERF
        Must have different tastes, the TSX doesn't look that bad to me, I have owned 2!
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        @JasonERF
        I agree on their cars looking like a bangle butt and buck toothed beaver design part lol. That's the most fittest description of how hideous the design looks, especially on TL.
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          I've read early reviews and they're very positive.
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      Rob Ascough
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      Is it just me, or is Acura's lineup starting to look a lot like Buick's? The ILX will compete with the Verano and cheaper Regals, the TSX/TL/whatever will compete with the Regal GS and Lacrosse, the MDX will battle the Enclave, the RDX will match up with Buick's upcoming smaller CUV and then there will be some range-topping sedan that competes with, well...? Maybe this isn't a bad thing? Without a RWD platform and V8 engines, Acura can't compete with Lexus, Infiniti, MB and BMW. Might as well go after a different part of the market, and Honda probably sees that GM is onto something by positioning Buick in between Chevy and Cadillac as a not-quite-luxury brand. Still, I can't see the TSX or TL going away, at least not completely. The TL is the company's best-selling sedan, their bread and butter. Why give that up? Why pull a Ford, as they got rid of the Taurus all those years ago? As for the TSX, it probably makes the company tons of money because it's a European Accord with some luxury perks that allows them to charge a good amount for each one. Would Honda really give up those sales? If anything, it'd be nice to see the European Accord brought over here as an Accord. If Honda feels the need to sell a huge sedan like the current U.S. Accord, do so but make it a separate model. Toyota gets away with selling sedans in four sizes, as does Chevy. I believe there's room for three in Honda's lineup.
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        @Rob Ascough
        I think it's just you. While Buick and Acura are similar in pricing, you're stretching the comparison quite a bit. IMHO
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      Smooth
      • 3 Years Ago
      The TL has more "name" than the TSX does, so I could see them killing off the TSX first. Also, rumor has it that the USA and Euro Accord will be the same this go round. Word also has it that "Legend" may come back for the top dog Acura. 2012 should be a very interesting year for Honda and Acura to say the very least. Let's see how this plays out.
        leunamme
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        @Smooth
        I hope you're right. It'd be like the early 90's all over again. A global Accord design, the return of the Legend, maybe an Integra in the mix...one can only hope,
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      jessesrq
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      I hope the TSX doesn't get axed. It may not be an enthusiast's choice, but it has a great combination of luxury, size, handling, and economy for a loyal group of consumers. Sure my Sportwagon would be more fun with AWD and could use another 50 horses, but then it wouldn't average 28 MPG.
      TangoR34
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      Kill both TL and TSX. Start making dedicated RWD models like its competitors been doing for ages.
        Dwight Bynum Jr.
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        @TangoR34
        My favorite part about this is the fact that Acura debuted in 1986 and Lexus and Infiniti didn't show up til 1989, yet BOTH got it right off the bat, LONG before Acura... who has YET to create a RWD luxury sedan. (This is the part where someone chimes in with some reference to the outdated and extinct NSX)
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