In 2010, Porsche and Audi were both understood to be vying for the chance to provide future sports car platforms for the entire Volkswagen Group. Not to take anything away from Audi, but few would be surprised to learn that Porsche was chosen for the task.

It seems that Porsche had plans for the platform as early as March of 2011, considering it might underpin a Ferrari 458 competitor that would slot in between its own 911 and 918 Spyder. If such a car is made, what it is based on now seems to be a matter of timing: if Porsche produces its new model soon, a report in Autocar says VW wants it built on the next-generation R8 chassis that will also support the coming Lamborghini Gallardo. The overlords apparently feel that the aluminum and carbon fiber structure will be good enough for Porsche's light heavyweight challenger.

That might not be good enough for Porsche – at least according to Autocar, which suggests that Porsche might wait all the way until 2020 to produce its rumored supercar. By then, all of the group's sports cars will be on Porsche-designed platforms, so the Stuttgart firm won't need to accept one from across the aisle.


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      Justin Campanale
      • 3 Years Ago
      This is a bad, bad, bad, bad, BAD idea. First of all, it would cannibalize sales of the 911 turbo. Second of all, Porsche is slowly pricing their cars out of relevancy. I remember when in the 80's, a young, single man with a few roommates and a taste for Top Ramen could manage the payments needed for a 911, and back then, every young single male needed one. Nowadays, Porsches are simply too expensive. The average American family with 2 parents working can't even afford a 911. I am a rather "successful" person, and in a few years time, I plan on buying a 911 turbo, but I seriously doubt that I can muster the payments. Porsches should just become cheaper, more Spartan, less filled with every bell and whistle possible, more compact and light, more driver focused, and they should do away with the blasphemious Panamera and Cayenne. Let Audi take care of that. They should let Lambo take care of the 458 competitor. The Gallardo replacement could serve that niche. Turn Porsche back into a SPORTS CAR manufacturer instead of turning into another useless-for-anyone-south-of-Paris Hilton supercar manufacturer. I'd even say, ditch the 918 and let Lambo take car of that for a "green supercar" model.
        Justin Campanale
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Justin Campanale
        Porsches have really gotten too soft. Drive an air-cooled model, then drive a current model, then tell me which one if more engaging. Proud owner of a 1986 911 Carrera 3.2.
          Where's the cheese?
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Justin Campanale
          Dude, I agree with you on a lot of things and you and Krishan Mistry are regulars on Autoblog that actually post respectable comments on most threads but the boys in Maranello do good work and have had a history on doing good work. I've always been amazed by most Ferraris and they are one of the best sports car manufacturers in the world with a personality defined by innovative engineering. I agree Porsches are amazing cars and Zuffenhausen should deserve no less respect for the machines they produce but you have to admit Ferrari and Porsche make an extremely intriguing rivalry. From the 959 vs. the F40 to the Enzo and the Carrera GT, no two car companies have had such respectable histories in their rivalry as Porsche and Ferrari. Both Ferry Porsche and Enzo have built spectacular auto companies. I do wish Ferrari dealers would make their buyers take a personality test first though as most people on Autoblog complain more about Ferrari owners than the actual cars.
      Hazdaz
      • 3 Years Ago
      Porsche can huff and puff all they want, but if mamma VAG tells them they NEED to use an Audi platform, then they really have no choice. In many ways, I agree with Porsche's stubbornness in wanting to use their own platform, but in some other ways, I see this as pigheaded arrogance. Yeah, they make some amazing cars, but they are acting as though they are the only ones that can design a platform.
        Kimithechamp
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Hazdaz
        Porsche's problem isn't with whether or not Audi can develop something worth while. They've designed every platform for their top of the line sports cars since the company's beginning. I'm sure it was a big enough pill to swallow being purchased by VW (putting an end to the the world's oldest independent sports car manufacturer) and they don't want to sit by and watch more of this heritage slip through their fingers... especially after VW told them they wouldn't do what they're doing.
      • 3 Years Ago
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        Christopher Anderson
        • 3 Years Ago
        I think it's less the competence of that platform (which has no major compromises or engineering flaws I'm aware of) as it is Porsche insisting and knowing they can do even better (as we all know the can).
          sparrk
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Christopher Anderson
          Audi has to use all their Le Mans know how to build a platform the Porsche guys will be happy with. If they succeed, the R8, Gallardo ,Porsche 960 will be a hell of a trio.
      sparrk
      • 3 Years Ago
      They don't need a new platform , theGT2 RS already wipes the floor with the 458 , the 991 GT2 will be much faster. The new sub-918 car will most likely battle Ferrari's V12 cars.
        Mike B
        • 3 Years Ago
        @sparrk
        The GT2 RS is a limited production car, it doesn't really compete with the 458, Why do you think they are making this car? going by the updates the facelifted Turbo got, a 997.2 GT2 would of had the same power/weight ratio as the 458, and be a fair fight... yeah, maybe not, maybe that's why they never made a 997.2 GT2 and decided to come with a track version of a track version with over 220lbs weight and 50hp power advantage over the 458, why were they scared of releasing an equal "on paper" car? This new car will take the place of the GT2, as simple as that.
      TruthHertz
      • 3 Years Ago
      That's one thing I like about Porsche in more recent times... NO COMPROMISE, when performance is involved.
      Frisky_Dingo
      • 3 Years Ago
      Easy way to solve this problem, let Porsche develop the platform for the trio as they deem fit, and then apply the needed tweaks to make it work for their own car. If VAG won't let them do that, then I don't blame Porsche. There is no substitute for Porsche engineering.
      Vien Huynh
      • 3 Years Ago
      Let Porsche decides what they want to do... they make great cars after all.
      Nathan Loiselle
      • 3 Years Ago
      I'm still wondering why a second supercar is necessary. The 918 obviously surpasses the 458 and there are 911's currently available that compete directly with the 458. They should work towards the next 914 sucessor or improve on the Boxster/Cayman.
      Smiley
      • 3 Years Ago
      Because of how expensive the 911 variants go (up to $250k) I think Porsche is going to have a problem selling the new car and maintaining solid resale value (which they are known for). The 911 is not a super car, and it's not an exotic. THey are far too common, too similar looking, and there are too many different types. A true 458 and Gallardo competitor (exotics) would need to be about $200k-$300k max. That puts it too close to the 911. The super car segment is already spoken for with the 918. So that leaves them with a $400-500k car which starts to put them into super car territory. There really is no place for it unless they lower the price of their overpriced upper tier 911s. Mercedes has this problem with the SLS. The SL65 approaches $200k and then they put the SLS in at $250k. If you look at it the prices are already tanking. The SL65 should be max $150k and the SLS at $250k, or they should price the SLS and SL65 about the same. The market confirms everything I'm saying. It also doesn't help that Mercedes stole the next gen Viper frame and built the SLS on it.
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Smiley
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        Frisky_Dingo
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Smiley
        Completely untrue and unfounded. That's like saying GM shouldn't have a Corvette and a truck both priced in the $50K range. Two different vehicles for two different buyers. Porsche is aiming to make the 991 a more polished, well-rounded GT-esque car. Which leaves plenty of room for a dedicated entry level supercar to Compete with the likes of the 458, etc. It would be priced higher than even the special, low volume 911's and outperform them as well.
        Mike B
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Smiley
        An easy way of saying there won't be overlap? No more GT2, GT2 RS 911s, their place will be occupied by this new supercar.
      stclair5211
      • 3 Years Ago
      The world economy will be destroyed by 2020 so who cares.
      lewazzinaroillus
      • 3 Years Ago
      all i can say about all of this,...is when all is said and done,...i'm just glad porsche still makes the 911 in a manual version,...thank god they still do,...as an "old school" sports-car lover, i have to have a manny tranny in my performance car,..which now leaves out ferrari,...unless i'm wrong, they don't make a manual anymore?,...corvette still does,...mustang?,...subbies do i believe,....i just think [my personal opinion, don't get all huffy on me here!] that paddle shifters and pdk and such[don't even get me started on nissan's gtr!] totally dilute the true performance experience of a sportscar,...and make it more akin to playing a video game,...i like to actually "drive" my cars!,...so thanks porsche for still giving us that "dinosaur" option!
      Ian
      • 3 Years Ago
      This comment thread design (with all it's complex reply windows) is almost comical.
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