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That the $95,900 Fisker Karma would be built in Finland was never a secret, never up for debate. The car was delayed, and now costs more than it was originally supposed to, but the Finland thing has remained intact. In fact, when the automaker applied for its DOE Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing loan back in September 2009 and then again when the loan was approved in the spring of 2010, it specifically said that the loan was to build the company's next vehicle (the still-secret Nina plug-in hybrid) in Delaware – and maybe possibly also next-gen versions of the Karma. The plan always called for the first Karmas to be made by Valmet in Finland. In fact, Fisker has to make sure that none of the DOE money is spent overseas. This is all old news, right? The latest on Fisker is that the car just got its EPA certification and that celebrities like Leonardo DiCaprio (in real life) and Ashton Kutcher (on TV) drive the car.

Well this isn't the case if you're ABC News and you get to talk to company head Henrik Fisker and get him to say that there was "no contract manufacturer in the U.S. that could actually produce our vehicle." Fisker was explaining why his company wanted the loan: to restructure an old GM plant in Delaware and make plug-ins there. ABC put the story up, and then folks like Sarah Palin caught wind of it. Earlier today, Palin tweeted, "This is outrageous. Wake up, America." A staffer to Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC) joined in. Palin's outrage is somewhat understandable, given that ABC asks if, "whether another Solyndra is in the offing" with Fisker. To anyone who knows the full story, though, there is very little in the ABC article that's actual news. The only thing we noted was that Fisker said the Nina has already been designed and built and is being kept under wraps for competitive reasons.

We'd like to say that American should not pay any more attention to what Palin says about Fisker, but her tweets can be heard for miles, apparently. The DOE responded in a clear statement that says, "While the vehicles themselves are being assembled in Fisker's existing overseas facility, the Department's funding was only used for the U.S. operations. The money could not be, and was not, spent on overseas operations." Will it get the same traction?


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      EVnerdGene
      • 3 Years Ago
      these comments sound like occupy wall street morons that get their political knowledge and insights from Saturday Night Live skits
        PR
        • 2 Months Ago
        @EVnerdGene
        Sadly, Saturday Night Live skits are STILL more accurate and factually correct than Fox News Contributor Sarah Palin.
        Fgergergrergr
        • 2 Months Ago
        @EVnerdGene
        still that better than cable news.....
      • 2 Months Ago
      JP - Both the Volt and Karma are EVs, with range extending gasoline power. That doesn't make them practical, neither is. Both haul around dual drivetrains, which is inefficient and complex, meaning maintenance costs will be high. They are a solution to the infrastructure problem, plus the charging problem inherent in battery technology for energy storage. Electric will probably never be practical for anything but city cars, not family cars. Only a fuel source that can be rapidly replenished, like gasoline, will serve long term. Even if 15min or less recharging were possible the range of EVs is too limited to serve as a family car. We will be stuck with gasoline for a long time yet. The only possible alternative is natural gas, but enviros aren't enthusiastic since it's just a cleaner fossil fuel. Hydrogen could be used as an intermediary fuel source, but it seems to have been abandoned for a variety of reasons. Both have a chicken and egg problem of distribution. NG could be solved by investing in fueling at gas stations. Hydrogen could be possible with small hydrolysis machines, but it would be expensive.
      Spec
      • 2 Months Ago
      Good answer Spence. @Danaon You can't just do research. You have to actually start building and selling things to bring prices down. We know how to build good EVs will current technology. But getting people to actually build and sell them will bring the price down through mass manufacturing efficiencies, experience and things learned while building them., build supply chain, encourage companies to improve the technology further, etc. If you only do research, you only develop cool things that cost millions of dollars. You need to actually build, sell, and refine things.
      Ford Future
      • 3 Years Ago
      Forward or Reverse, I'm betting you're a reverse kind of guy. We are in a global competition for Jobs, it'd be nice if you helped.
      Smith Jim
      • 2 Months Ago
      JP, PHEV-hating EV purists are just as annoying as EV haters, IMHO.
      Grendal
      • 3 Years Ago
      So Sarah Palin says something stupid and that's news. It would be bigger news if she didn't say something stupid.
      Spec
      • 3 Years Ago
      Since when has the right-wing media ever been interested in reality? Reality doesn't matter to them . . . what matters is feeding their target audience with the narrative they WANT TO HEAR. Truth doesn't matter . . . just give the story enough 'truthiness' such that they can believe it and they will.
      Ford Future
      • 3 Years Ago
      Has the Republican Party finally Jumped-the-Shark? If even the conservative editors of AutoBlogGreen can finally admit to the Republican Insanity, why then there IS Hope for America. Thanks.
      Danaon
      • 3 Years Ago
      Yes, let's compete for jobs by taxing capital out of the private economy and reallocating it extremely inefficiently. That will create jobs! Opportunity cost, what's that?
      Spec
      • 3 Years Ago
      Well if some GOPers succeed in their plans to get rid of the FDA, you may get your chance.
      Woody Becker
      • 3 Years Ago
      Wow lots of hatred on here. I by the way am conservative, both in politics and the environment. I also do not like tax dollars funding foreign companies whether they manufacture in the US or outside, the way I look at things is the US government's job is to at least cheer for the home team! I as a taxpayer, should not be subsidizing a 100K electric car, byt the way, how many of you on this board can afford such a vehicle?
        Nick
        • 2 Months Ago
        @Woody Becker
        Where were you when the 'conservative' Bush administration was subsidizing (via huge tax rebates) full-sized SUVs? How about the enormous oil subsidies, any issue with those? That's right, you were cheering and clapping, or just didn't care.
        PR
        • 2 Months Ago
        @Woody Becker
        Woody Pecker, Let me guess. Even though you said nothing at the time, you all the sudden are now also opposed to 100K dollar Hummers being subsidized via tax cuts to the tune of around $25,000 dollars? Seems like there were a lot of you conservatives who all voted (97% of you) to all re-elect the folks who brought us $25,000 dollar subsidies on 100K dollar SUV's and other pointless policies, who all the sudden have found religion when it comes to $7,500 dollar subsidies that are quite effectively changing the entire equation when it comes to buying EV's. Spare us the right-wing blathering.
      Smith Jim
      • 3 Years Ago
      Obviously, Sarah Palin is incapable of saying anything intelligent. That's OK because I think there's a 90% chance that negative publicity about EVs will ultimately backfire. In show business they say that all publicity is good publicity especially if it's free publicity. In fact, I hope this turns into a major controversy that gets more people talking about plugin cars. When the average person learns that this controversy is about the Karma getting "only" 52 MPGe they might ask, "Is 52 MPGe bad? Compared to what?"
        Smith Jim
        • 2 Months Ago
        @Smith Jim
        And the answer will be, "Electric cars are way more efficient. That's why a luxury sports car like the Karma can get 52 MPGe but the Volt get 94 MPGe" The point I'm trying to make is that EV haters complaining about the Karma will lead to people making comparisons to the Volt. This will make the Volt look good and EV haters will have shot themselves in the foot because EV haters hate the Volt the most.
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