• Jun 27, 2011
2012 BMW M5 – Click above for high-res image gallery

Ah, the Nürburgring lap time board. Perhaps the ultimate in bragging rights for any performance automobile worth its Nordschleife bumper sticker. An unreliable indicator, maybe, since climate conditions can have adverse affects on a lap time around the massive, undulating German road course, but so it stands just the same.

The leader boards are populated by all manner of supercars, from Italian exotics and German muscle machines to Japanese monsters and barely street-legal racecars for the road. What binds them all is that they've all got two doors. Or no doors, as in the case of the Radical trackday racers that top the list. But what if you want to bring three or four friends along for the ride around the Green Hell?

Only four sedans have dipped below the venerable eight-minute mark: the Porsche Panamera, the Audi RS4, the Cadillac CTS-V and this, the new F10-generation BMW M5. That is, at least, according to reports, which state that a BMW factory driver posted a 7:55 lap time. The reports are completely unconfirmed and unofficial, and our man on the ground Michael Harley heard nothing about it while on location this past weekend for the Nürburgring 24 Hours. If true, however, the new M5 would stand as the fastest four-door on the Ring yet – and a good eighteen seconds faster than the model it replaces.


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      cashsixeight
      • 3 Years Ago
      More importantly, what is the fastest WAGON?
      Lamborrari
      • 3 Years Ago
      Did they derestrict it or leave the top speed stuck at 155 MPH?
        Dwight Bynum Jr.
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Lamborrari
        I don't know, but even with a 155 MPH limit, you can count on one hand how many times you'd break 155 MPH on the Nordschleife. Case in point, the latest Z06 run - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok1WUO3p1oQ
        Ak74
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Lamborrari
        No. It probably has european M sport pack which includes 190mph speed limiter.
      Evan McMiller
      • 3 Years Ago
      Cannot find the article now, but the E60 did the ring in 7:52, with PS2s, so as far as I'm concerned it's still the fastest. Still rather have that V10 too.
      • 3 Years Ago
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      larshafner
      • 3 Years Ago
      factory times, no matter which carmaker claims them, cannot be trusted as long as they aren`t verified by independent testers, period.
      formuladave
      • 3 Years Ago
      Subaru STI anyone? http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q2/2011_subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_sets_nuerburgring_lap_record-feature You forgot one very important car from your list: The 2011 Subaru WRX STI that currently holds the record for 4-door production cars at 7:55.. That and it did it with about 60% of the power of the M5 and on a cold day.
        ColeWorld
        • 3 Years Ago
        @formuladave
        1. that's not a stock STI 2. I'm sure the M5 will have absolutely no problem doing better than that STI with that driver.
        Eddie Dwyer
        • 3 Years Ago
        @formuladave
        Key word - production. That STI had some changes done.
      Ak74
      • 3 Years Ago
      Nothing surprising here. The King is back
      Adrian
      • 3 Years Ago
      Video proof like Cadillac submitted, or it didn't happen. Just saying you did a laptime of X:XX on the 'Ring means nothing. If it does become substantiated, though, very impressive and glad to see competition in the sports sedan segment between BMW/Audi/Cadillac/Porsche/MB. Competition is good for all of us in the end.
      Dvanos
      • 3 Years Ago
      Looks like the Cadillac is going to have to change its commerical.
        Varcity
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Dvanos
        Actually not, they say it's the "fastest" which means top speed. 191 mph top speed still trumps the M5. But who gives a F, quotes like that are for the uninformed.
          Georg
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Varcity
          there are many 4doors with higher topspeed even befor the CTS-V was put into production ... Bentley Continental Flying Spur and Flying Spur Speed (200mph) Alpina B5(195mph), B5S(200mph) to name some Cadillacs commercial is just not true and never was... befor the CTS-V the 4door northloop laptime was already at 7:58min ... driven by a 2005 Audi RS4 with Frank Stippler, a Audi DTM race driver at that time, behind the wheel, today Stippler race the R8LMS in the VLN and during the 24h at the northloop and is Audis chief test driver..
      xcatchmyshadowx
      • 3 Years Ago
      BMW M5 7:55 (driven by "some" BMW test driver) Panamera Turbo: 7:56 (driven by Röhrl and clocked by car magazine Autobild) is there any doubt which one to trust more?!
      tebs
      • 3 Years Ago
      didnt the 2011 Subaru STi do a 7:55 run also? albeit with a roll cage and aftermarket sounding exhaust plus some aero bits... hehehe
        Georg
        • 3 Years Ago
        @tebs
        WRX STI ...and non optional race brakes, non optinal sized wheels and semi slicks, non optinal Carbon panel completely closed underbody etc etc... poser lap with factory modified car
      • 3 Years Ago
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        Joe
        • 3 Years Ago
        No, probably not. They will end up saying "fastest 4-door supercharged sedan with a mesh grille".
        • 3 Years Ago
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        DrEvil
        • 3 Years Ago
        No, they can just go out and beat this time. Remember there is a lot still left in that LS motor. I'm also sure just like GM was able to improve the suspension for the Z06 & ZR-1 they can also tweak the CTS-V. BMW is in a no-win situation here. The CTS-V's 2 year old time is 7:59:32 The M5 in 2012 could only manage to shave 4+ seconds off that time? How much did it cost BMW to get by the Caddy? I say the V will blow that time away by the end of the summer.
        Tone
        • 3 Years Ago
        What claim? The (official) time spoke for itself.
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Tone
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