• Jun 27, 2011
2012 Toyota Prius V - Click above for high-res image gallery

Given that Toyota will launch the Prius Plug-in in spring of 2012 and that the Prius V is basically a roomier version of the standard Prius, it seems like a no-brainer for Toyota to eventually equip the V with plug-in components, right? Well, that seems to be one option that Toyota is keen on.

Recently, Plugin Cars' Nick Chambers interviewed Ron Ishii, senior field engineer for Toyota. While Ishii didn't confirm that a plug-in Prius V is in the works, he did say that:
The engineers and designers don't leave any possibilities out of the equation. The Prius V packaging is very similar to the Prius on purpose. In the back of the car under the floor where the battery sits, the packaging is almost identical so the larger battery required of the plug-in system could fit there the same as it does in the Prius Plug-in.
Chambers then turned to Ed Larocque, national marketing manager for Toyota advanced technology vehicle. Larocque added:
Hopefully the success of the plug-in Prius will help us move towards the release of a plug-in Prius V. If our customers demand a plug-in from us we will deliver it. If we need to adjust our product strategy to remain on top, and that means we need to add a plug-in Prius V, we will do it.
Based on these statements – and our suspicion that the Prius Plug-in will be a hit – a plug-in version of the Prius V certainly seems likely, doesn't it?



Photos copyright 2011 Zach Bowman / AOL

[Source: Plugin Cars]


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      Smith Jim
      • 3 Years Ago
      I'm sure this plugin Prius V will appeal to many people who can afford the premium price but I'm looking forward to the Prius C, a car with less fuel consumption than the current Prius at a price I can afford.
        GoodCheer
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Smith Jim
        I agree. But I'm confused about reports I've heard that seem to make distinctions between a Prius C, the FT-CH, and a hybrid Yaris, which all seem like they would all be very similar vehicles. I agree that the spy shots we saw last month were not that good looking. I asked a Toyota guy at a car show recently about the apparent duplication and he didn't seem to know any more than I do.
        emperor koku
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Smith Jim
        I'm also waiting on the C! Loved the concept, but concerned about the spy photos :-/
        GeorgeS
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Smith Jim
        Totally w/ you on that one (the C)!! Too bad we hear so little about it though.
      Hyns
      • 3 Years Ago
      best news i heard all day, I can only hope 2012 Prius plug-in takes off so they can add the plug to the "V" Possibly with Lithium-Ion pack...?
        Naturenut99
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Hyns
        The only plug-in packs that have been discussed have been Li-ion. Standard hybrids have so far (but not necessarily forever) NiHM.
      emperor koku
      • 3 Years Ago
      It'd be a smart move to compete with the C-Max Energi.
      Neil Blanchard
      • 3 Years Ago
      I certainly hope that they offer all Prii as plugins. Neil
        2 Wheeled Menace
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Neil Blanchard
        Gimme the 2 seater, that's all i care about ;)
          GeorgeS
          • 3 Years Ago
          @2 Wheeled Menace
          Sounds unanimous, bring it on Toyota. but don't disappoint me. I want another 10 MPG. Oh well , no way. it better be 8 then!!!
        Naturenut99
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Neil Blanchard
        Thats the true answer. That they all should be plug-ins. No Plug, No Sale!
          Smith Jim
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Naturenut99
          I would not worry about usbseawolf. He's an anti-environment troll as far as I can tell. I can appreciate your enthusiasm for plugins but plugins are not necessarily the best when it comes to greenhouse gas emissions. In my part of the world, St. Louis, Missouri, 85% of the electrical power comes from coal. I have read that a hybrid will generate less greenhouse gases because the dirtiness of the electrical power. See the July 2010 issue of Scientific American. I have made this point before and people tell me to install solar but I live in an apartment and could not afford solar anyway. Check out the following article about increased thermal efficiency of future Toyota hybrids. One line in this article which I think is important is this, "...Nakata suggested that such an engine applied in a hybrid would result in total lifecycle greenhouse gas emissions comparable to that of an electric vehicle..." http://www.greencarcongress.com/2011/04/nakata-20110411.html
          Naturenut99
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Naturenut99
          usbseawolf.... you really didnt clarify what your asking or basing it on. If your asking if I'd pay a million to have a plug in... keep smoking whatever it is your smoking. Thats absurd. Agreed? Beyond that obviously as has always been discussed here. Over and over again. Give it a plug. Make it cheaper. Do it quicker. No one has ever said at any cost. That being said I actually already have a 2004 Prius that I had converted to plug-in. Wasn't first and foremost about getting fully paid back. But I use about half as much gas as I did before, less $ out the door or out the country or to oil co's. Not to mention it's half the CO2 released... actually far more than that considering all that happens before the gas enters your gas tank No one has ever said, I'll bend over and you can take whatever you want. To me there is every reason to get off oil and all fossil fuels and no true reason not to. Yes, as with absolutely everything that has ever been made and sold... cost is always considered and brought down over time and with quantity, but it is not always the first and only reason to do something. ps. after having typed all that... Are you asking if I'm saying that tomorrow the only car to ever be sold should be a plug-in? It would be great if that was a possibility. But I'm not stupid. It takes time to change things. But I was saying that all of the Prii ( or hybrids for that matter ) should offer a plug-in model/version. That doesnt mean that I said that tomorrow there can be no more regular hybrids. Hopefully that clarify's?
          usbseawolf2000
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Naturenut99
          It was a simple question. For those do not know me, I also own a Prius and quite active on PriusChat. The reason I asked is to see if you understand the trade-offs you need to make to get a plug. - Are you willing to give up one seat? - Pay $10k-15k more? - Downsize to compact from midsize? - Increase tailpipe emission? - Less efficient gas engine? - Shorter battery life? - Unreliable performance in the cold weather? - Worse crash test rating? - Increase maintenance/repair complexity? (extra coolant loop for the battery) - Willing to buy a 220v "quick" charger? - Willing to plug it in? All of those need to be addressed for a plugin car. Volt doesn't address most of them. Prius PHV is addressing all of them. Remember, majority of the electricity generated today in the US is from fossil fuel. That's the reality and CO2 reduction using a plug is no better than a cordless Prius (based on DOE study). The grid needs to become cleaner (and it is) in order for us to move forward. The timing of the mass produced plugin vehicles needs to consider that as well.
          Marco Polo
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Naturenut99
          @Jim, I don't see where you can deduce that uberseawolf, is an anti-environmental troll, simply because he questions such issues as; ideological over-enthusiasm, strident demands for impossible products, commercial practicability, and the value of 'tokenist' technologies. Your purchase of a Th!nk EV, is a very praiseworthy commitment to your ideals. I have spent many years encouraging the adoption of EV transport. Like you, I'm a fellow EV owner, and have created a business from the specialised application of electric vehicles. IMHO, forums like ABG, are really enhanced by the contributions of various readers. It's the nature of the internet, that all sites attract there fairshare of oddballs, eccentrics, the deluded and a smattering of trolls. Uberseawolf, may not be always right, and sometimes he could temper the tone of his criticism, but a troll?, I would submit that the term troll, should be reserved for far more odious creatures. Uberseawolf, states some uncomfortable truths that environmentalists just don't want to hear. The truth is that the Auto-industry is a relatively minor environmental polluter! The opportunity for the average person to effect any change with the really big polluters, is very minimal. No matter how many solar panels or community windmills, the actual savings will always be so minuscule as to be negligible. The real attraction of EV's is that everyone can join in to help the environment, in a practical and realistic method by owning an EV, PIEV, or Hybrid. Not only can they be passionate about demonstrating commitment to environmental responsibility, but have fun and save money with this exciting new technology. In the late 1970's a startling new study was completed concerning the effectiveness of the bombing campaign against Germany 1942-44. This was a study conducted by very serious experts in strategic logistics. The conclusion was that the Allies would have been better served without the campaign. The study remained confidential for a long time. Can you imagine the anguish of all those bomber crews,and their families to learn that the campaign was probably ineffective except on an emotional level? The same could be said for the claims by all the eager environmentalists. But, IMHO, effectiveness is not the point! The point is by doing something, no matter how token, awareness grows. But, that doesn't mean that the views of the conservatives, are malicious or inaccurate.
          Chris M
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Naturenut99
          Lets see... - Are you willing to give up one seat? None of the Plug-in Prius designs loose a seat, not even the retrofits. - Pay $10k-15k more? Some of the retrofits cost $10K, but they have bigger batteries than the Toyota design. Toyota's own version is likely to have a lower "extra" cost. - Downsize to compact from midsize? None of the Plugin Prius versions are "downsized", though they may eventually offer a plug-in version of the Prius C which is already "downsized". - Increase tailpipe emission? You mean "Decreased tailpipe emissions". The engine runs less, so less emissions. BTW, it still has the "quick warmup" design to reduce "cold start" emissions. - Less efficient gas engine? Uses the same Atkinson Cycle, so efficiency is the same. - Shorter battery life? Unlikely, but even if it is, the warranty will be the same. Toyota has already planned for recycling of replaced batteries. - Unreliable performance in the cold weather? The Prius is already highly reliable in cold weather, a bigger battery would only increase reliability, the larger size compensating for reduced power output at lower temperatures. Battery thermal management could warm the battery pack when plugged in. - Worse crash test rating? No real reason for a change in crash test ratings, as the auto body structure and frame are unchanged. - Increase maintenance/repair complexity? (extra coolant loop for the battery) You really expect major problems from a simple coolant loop? Not very likely. - Willing to buy a 220v "quick" charger? A nice option, but not required. The Plugin Prius can recharge in 8 hours or less from a standard 110 volt outlet. - Willing to plug it in? Well, obviously, to use electricity to dramatically reduce fuel consumption and operating costs. Putting a plug in a socket really isn't all that difficult.
          usbseawolf2000
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Naturenut99
          At any cost?
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