• May 16, 2011
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Ahead of its official launch scheduled for the end 2011, Better Place has unveiled a complex pricing structure for the Renault Fluence Z.E. in Israel. The base version of the electric sedan will hit the market at a price of ILS 122,900 ($34,265 U.S. at the current exchange rate), not including Better Place's service fees. The up-level Fluence Z.E. will start at ILS 129,900 ($37,274 U.S.). That's roughly in line with the cost of a new, traditionally powered vehicle.

Better Place's four-year service package includes installation and maintenance of an in-home charging station, free access to Better Place's public chargers and its network of battery swapping stations, computer support, navigation services and more.

Better Place says that for drivers who travel less than 20,000 kilometers (12,427 miles) a year, the service package will cost ILS 1090 ($313 U.S.) a month. For those that drive more, Better Place offers a service package that can take you up to 30,000 km (18,641 miles) at a monthly rate of ILS 1,599 ($459 U.S.). According to Better Place, its electric vehicle service packages will somehow reduce annual maintenance costs by 20 percent. YMMY, of course, but we can see that gas costs around $7 a gallon there now.

It's unclear if buyers will be able to adjust or terminate their four-year contractual agreement if dissatisfied with their plug-in vehicle purchase or Better Place's service, but one thing that is clear is that going electric is not going to be cheap in Isreal. Hat tip to Sammy and Jacob!




[Source: Globes via Google translate]


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      • 1 Hour Ago
      Going electric might not be cheap, but driving in Israel at all isn't cheap either, between high gas prices and huge taxes (like 80-120%) on auto sales a lot of israelis don't drive, or if they do they buy old old cars. I know they have incentives for green cars, so if it's a real serious tax break for buying an all electric, it may actually be cheaper.
      electronx16
      • 1 Hour Ago
      Ironically, Israel might be sitting on the same amount of oil as Saudi Arabia: http://www.jpost.com/Features/FrontLines/Article.aspx?id=211676 The trick is to get this shale oil out of the ground economically, but they are working on it.
      • 1 Hour Ago
      two corrections... 1) gasoline is well above $8 a gallon... 2) it doesn't reduce 20% maintenance cost - it reduces total cost per km including gasoline...and locks the price per km down for four years, with an exit option to the customer at any point in time...just the lock on gasoline price is worth a ton of money (think of asking Chevron to lock your gasoline cost per gallon from now till 2015...) 3) that price includes everything!!! electricity, service, battery, switching, GPS, internet in car, the works!!! and to top it off - BPLC offered to match the local price of the Toyota Prius (which also enjoys tax advantage) and throw in 3 years (75,000 km) worth of driving at no additional cost!!! Indeed a very disruptive price
      • 1 Hour Ago
      Did you know the drop battery connections is being made in HEMET California by DEUSTCH?
      • 1 Hour Ago
      And you get to pay for charging on top of this, right? I am so glad our government in the US didn't give carte blanche to these guys to insert themselves between my car, its battery and the plug on the wall. Maybe "a better place" process will turn out fabulous, but I'm glad things are rolling out the way they in the US and that these guys aren't required.
      • 1 Hour Ago
      Better Place Renault Fluence Z.E. at the basic price of NIS 122,900 will be cheaper than a Honda Civic at NIS 134,000. Even the luxury edition will be cheaper than a Honda Civic at NIS 129,900. Heres Honda prices in Israel: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=iw&u=http://www.honda.co.il/&ei=gwzRTeCEDJPEsAPwhYnHCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CEIQ7gEwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhonda%2Bisrael%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%26newwindow%3D1%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Du0w%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Divns Better Place will be successful.. they already sold 70,000 Better Place Renault Fluence Z.E.’s one year before launch!!. http://www.euractiv.com/en/innovation/better-place-ceo-biggest-obstacle-electric-cars-auto-industry-scepticism-interview-500451 ff
        • 1 Hour Ago
        Add to that the taxes in Israel and the difference between petrol and BP e-cars becomes huge.. Car taxes in Israel: 10% on electrics and 90% on petrol cars.. Honda Civic NIS 134,000 + 90% = NIS 254,600 Renault Fluence ZE at NIS 122,900 + 10% = NIS 135,190 No one will buy any petrol car ever in Israel as long as the taxes above are in force!! ff
      • 1 Hour Ago
      How many Israelis drive 20,000 km per year?
        Emil , Jerusalem
        • 1 Hour Ago
        A lot of. There are a lot of people that drive 30K a year. Business owners drive even 50K . Taxi cabs usually do 100,000 and more
      Guillaume Séguin
      • 1 Hour Ago
      It seems expensive ... but for some it could make sense. This is the EV solution for high-miles drivers. I was talking to a collegue commuting "55 minutes" to work. She says she spends now 70€ per tank (in Ireland, that's about 100 US$) for 7 working days for her 1.2 litre Clio. That's 300 USD per month just for commuting to work. She could even do her comute in a non-BP car since she defo drives under 100miles per day. If you're heavily driving I'm sure the BP could make sense. But as for the other EV solutions, it's not for everyone...
      Dan Frederiksen
      • 1 Hour Ago
      batteries not included. it's not good enough Ghosn. an electric car without battery is much cheaper to make than a gas car so this is bullshit
        Andrew Richard Rose
        • 1 Hour Ago
        @Dan Frederiksen
        Your right Dan of course , these prices amount to nothing less than daylight robbery !
        Marcopolo
        • 1 Hour Ago
        @Dan Frederiksen
        Great news, from DF. You are right Ghosn a crook. Where can I buy the grampusmobile? No, well tell me where we can buy from any manufacturer an EV cheaper than the ICE version? No. Hmmmm... lets see....All the Auto-makers are wrong, even the PRC makers, or DF...(who has never made even an EV conversion....) Yeah, Yeah, DF, we know, it's all a conspiracy! no take your medication, and well leave the light on so the bogeymen won't get you.
      Marcopolo
      • 1 Hour Ago
      Even in little Israel the 'Better Place' battery swapping concept fails on logistics. Instead, BP (and Renault) is now trying to monopolise the 'whole Israeli Plug-in charging system, including home plug in'. In turn this benefits Renault as a potentially monopoly EV automotive supplier. The insane scam must be stopped! In Australia I have been an opponent of Better Place, since it's inception. Shai Aggassi has been a major financial supporter of Green Party and Labour (centre-left) politicians, even to the extent of hiring a former Labour Minister to head BP downunder, and lobby for the BP model to be adopted. After a confrontation before the ASAE, which resulted in BP storming out, Australian support for this mad scheme has waned considerably. I really like Sasparilla' s expression "BP getting between my battery and the wall"! Brilliantly succinct! Of course BP is just a totally unnecessary parasite. Gas may be $7 a gallon, but electricity isn't cheap either. Israel' government owned power monopoly, IEC, generates Israeli electricity from coal, diesel, fuel oil, natural gas.
        JP
        • 1 Hour Ago
        @Marcopolo
        I've been arguing against BP for a while now, it makes no sense at all. http://ephase.blogspot.com/2010/12/project-better-place-exposed.html
      • 1 Hour Ago
      I am an American who visited Better Place during a recent visit to Israel. Here are a few points to consider: 1 -I took their car for a test drive and would be willing to pay a premium to drive this car over a gas car because it is a much better experience. Just as I am willing to pay a premium for a Honda over a Kia, etc. My recommendation is to take the car for a test drive before drawing conclusions. 2 - The pricing is a wash. True it's not a wash for the person who drives significantly less than 20k. but for someone who does, I think it is. Do the arithmetic. 3- There is a considerable tax benefit to purchase this over a gas automobile. 4- Better Place is providing a holistic approach -not just an automobile. This translates into smart-gid technology which allows for scheduling charging when the grid is not busy. Without this the grid must be built out to support the additional demand. 5- Most of the high costs are spreading the R&D costs to the customer. Once sales take off, expect the automobile costs to come down, the service plan to come down and expect competition from the Chinese car makers.
        • 1 Hour Ago
        The biggest problem in the UNITED STATES is the payment of two million to the United States Congress for crash testing. Currently the only vehicle that qualifies is the Zap Alias and the Telsa. Meeting at Hyatt Regency 20 June in San Francisco California. Ron Tsu will move all the marketing to the far east since the United States currency is worthless. Solar&Wind powered charging stations using http://avinc.com Universal kiosk (fits Telsa-ZAP-Nissan-Renault) is stopped because of no investors and a lawyer setup of exchange of information. Renault and Peugeot pulled out the United States during the George Bush administration and is not even think of coming to the United States.
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