• Apr 18, 2011
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The list of vehicles with an available manual transmission may become a bit smaller for 2012, as Inside Line is reporting that certain 2012 Cadillac CTS models will lose the ability to specify a third pedal. IL cites sources from within General Motors who say that models equipped with the 3.6-liter V6 will only be offered with an automatic transmission next year. The high-performance CTS-V sedan, coupe and wagon will still be offered with a manual transmission, as will CTS variants equipped with the torque-deprived 3.0-liter V6.

The General wouldn't specify why the 3.6-liter-equipped models would lose the manual option, but we're thinking that a low take rate at the dealership had something to do with the decision. And while we never like to see that owners lose out on the manual-equipped version of any vehicle, at least the CTS-V will retain row-your-own ability.



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[Source: Inside Line]


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      MechE
      • 3 Years Ago
      What a shame. A dying breed. I live by the manual transmission and it will continue to drive my purchase.
        Snark
        • 3 Years Ago
        @MechE
        Yeah, well, it didn't drive your purchase at a Cadillac dealer, now did it? And it's not dying, just being relegated to the sporty cars that people who insist on driving manuals actually buy anyway. You can still get most sporty VWs, Mazdas, Subarus, Fords, and the like with a manual, and those models sell strongly with manuals. There will never NOT be a manual GTI or WRX. Base CTS sedans are just not driven by people who care much about rowing their own gears. Which is fine, because you were never gonna buy one anyway.
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Snark
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          Snark
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Snark
          Well, they should have voted with their dollars when they had the chance, Impulsive. Car companies can't be all things to all people. If people don't buy a product, it makes no sense for that company to waste money producing that product just in case. Or do you actually think GM is in a position to waste money?
      redzebra
      • 3 Years Ago
      I work at a Honda dealer for 11 years. We used to sell about 15-20% manuals. These days, maybe 1%. I think the biggest problam is that dealers dont order any manuals so the availability is next to zero.
      airchompers
      • 3 Years Ago
      Hey Autoblog, can you publish some sort of information about manual transmission take rates by vehicle/brand/market segment? You seem like you'd be privy to that information, or at least someone who knows that information, and I'm curious about what the numbers are. Thanks, airchompers.
        • 3 Years Ago
        @airchompers
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          Hazdaz
          • 3 Years Ago
          Nonsense. I don't care WHAT year it is, shifting your own gears is what enthusiasts like to do, and as a car that is supposedly aimed at that market, they should at least offer it as an option.
        • 3 Years Ago
        @airchompers
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      Smitty_Smithenson
      • 3 Years Ago
      While I understand (and still dislike) the decision, you would think that the one model they would have kept it in besides the V's would be the coupe that one would assume those who don't quite have 65k lying around buy in order to get their hands on a sporty luxury touring coupe.
      Autoblogist
      • 3 Years Ago
      Manufacturers need to change they,re strategy on what engines and trim levels they equip with manuals. The old base model/fuel economy strategy is dead. Most people that choose the manual option are enthusiasts, that would rather have the mote potent engine that'd weaker. The new Sonata's only available manual is with the 4-banger and makes no sense. They put so much on it's performance potential, but fail to capitalize on it with a manual.
        ToniCipriani
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Autoblogist
        Actually GM tried that on the G6, and put the manual on the GTP only. Didn't quite work out there... I wanted a mid-range with a manual back then. Until the buying market actually changes and more people actually know how to drive a manual, more manuals just won't happen.
      Basil Exposition
      • 3 Years Ago
      That's a real, real shame. I just bought a CTS with the 3.6 and the 6 speed manual in January and it's an absoloutely wonderful combination. Based on my experience so far it was a forgone comclusion that it would be replaced with another one when the time came, but it looks like Cadillac is going to force me to look elsewhere.
      KCyclone
      • 3 Years Ago
      I own a CTS and is the first auto I have ever had. I would have happily gone with a manual but there simply weren't any available. I had no intention of ordering as I got what I believed to be a good deal on a 2008 just as the 2009's were coming out. Although I always have preferred a manual, it just seems like this is becoming a losing battle, and the enthusiasts simply make up too small of a market. It is too bad. Last, I did not get a chance to drive the manual 2008 CTS, but from what I read it was not a particularly well sorted gearbox. I presume GM didn't throw a lot of money at it... although like I said, this is only from reading about it, not first hand knowledge.
      another Dan
      • 3 Years Ago
      Das gefällt mir NICHT!!! I want a RWD wagon with a DOHC/4-valve-per-cylinder engine and a six-speed manual! No alternative to the 3-series I guess.
      gardnerst8
      • 3 Years Ago
      I bought a new 1960 Impala coupe with 4 speed manual. I REFUSE to go near trashomatic four holer sea-dan johnny cars! I have had to change to imports to keep driving fuel efficient coupes with state of the art six speed manuals. Buy American..some people whine...I did, when they built something I'd ride to the cemetery in.... Prior to 1960 I had a couple of trashomatics..I have never had one that ever failed to fail. Aamco franchises, like gas stations, used to be on every street corner to fix that junk...And NO!! everyone who wants manuals are not after performance, so called enthusiasts, but want reliable, fuel efficient cars, but NOT stodgy little four doors like Fiesta and Focus, etc.=Civic coupes.
      EvilTollMan
      • 3 Years Ago
      Lazy Americans, proof that people don't buy these cars for the driving dynamics and performance, but just to tell their friends that they drive a Cadillac.
        graphikzking
        • 3 Years Ago
        @EvilTollMan
        I guess you can say Laziness, but you could also say convenience. My daily driver I don't want a manual. In my MR2 Spyder there was only 1 way I was going to purchase it... WITH A MANUAL! I mean I wouldn't buy a RWD SUV because it wouldn't make much sense for me. I also wouldn't buy a manual car that I sit in traffic with. (Prius is MUCH better for that). I purchase what I need/want and what makes the most sense. When I start looking for a nice off lease Porsche Turbo 911 in a year or 2 I will def be favoring manuals but their pdk's do look tempting for track usage. People that drive a 3.6 Cadillac are not "sporty" people. Most of them are old people that want to feel young but don't have enough feeling in their legs to depress a clutch. Younger Americans favor: 1. Infinity G37 - great bang for the buck with a manual trans. 2. CTS-V great power/price ratio with a manual trans. 3. M3 with manual trans 4. Mustang/Camaro with manual trans. Who would buy a CTS that weighs over 4,000 lbs for driving dynamics and performance? It's a luxury car not a sports car. It's not even "sports luxury" if you ask me it's just too damn big and bloated looking.
        Nick Allain
        • 3 Years Ago
        @EvilTollMan
        They are financing the development of your V car. They develop a good halo version to help sell more of the base version and in turn, the base helps pay for the development of the low volume halo car.
        Geoff Neville
        • 3 Years Ago
        @EvilTollMan
        why the **** would you buy a cadillac for driving dynamics? you obviously don't know about american cars... cadillac has been a symbol of economic prosperity in american history for years.. welcome to the party. also don't be such a dick about americans. especially because we are in no way lazy, and many of us like manual transmissions... if that were even a crucial part of not being lazy..
          EvilTollMan
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Geoff Neville
          Also, why would you NOT buy a CTS for driving dynamics?? Most enthusiasts would say they are 'driver's cars'....they have been considered a great alternative to the 3 and 5 series since they first started selling. I wouldn't buy a STS or DTS for driving dynamics. I'm not talking about Cadillacs in general just the CTS.
        jonnybimmer
        • 3 Years Ago
        @EvilTollMan
        Ummm, it's a Cadillac wagon with a V6, not exactly designed to "stir the soul". And according to your logic, Germans and Brits are lazy as well (MB & Jaguar) due to the lack of a 3 pedal option. Don't generalize.
          EvilTollMan
          • 3 Years Ago
          @jonnybimmer
          Think about the mx-5 for a second, it's 4 cylinder doesn't exactly 'stir-the-soul' but if it were to only be offered with an automatic the enthusiast crowd would completely freak out. They're talking about all 3.6L CTS models, not just the wagon. Also, I'm talking about the USDM not the origin of the manufacturers.. I don't know about Jag but MB probably has some manual options for their cars in other markets.
      Hazdaz
      • 3 Years Ago
      Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb move. GM, and especially Cadillac has been on a roll. They have done a lot of smart things to get enthusiasts excited about their cars, but not at least offering a manual is one of the dumbest things they can do to kill excitement for a car that is supposed to be aimed at the luxo-performance market. I don't care if the % of manual transmissions versus autos was low. Offer the manual as a option because its the enthusiasts out there that usually get others motivated about a certain car, and usually enthusiasts go for changing their own gears.
        Snark
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Hazdaz
        Or maybe they're repositioning the CTS more as a large, plush luxury car, and letting the upcoming ATS be their smaller, nimbler, lighter enthusiast-oriented model.
      onewayroll
      • 3 Years Ago
      That's too bad, I guess not many 50+ year old's don't care to row their own gears
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