• Mar 30, 2011
Click above to watch the video after the jump

Last week we told you about the fresh, faster Nürburgring track times of the Nissan GTR, with video that proves that Godzilla 2012 managed to shave 2.48 seconds off its best lap. We were under the impression that the GTR's new top time wasn't enough to best the Corvette ZR1, but a side-by-side (or rather a top-to-bottom) comparison video of both runs gives us the definitive answer.

Beyond the jump is a video pitting the in-car camera view of the ZR1 (top screen) versus the 2012 GTR (bottom screen). Pay close attention from the five minute mark to about 6:20 into the clip, as the vehicle with the lead loses it for good at this point in the race. Very entertaining little competition, but you'll have to hit the jump and watch to see the winner for yourself.

[Source: CarScoop]



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      • 3 Years Ago
      nice try, and now remove the slicks from the Nissan and the cage from the Corvette
      • 3 Years Ago
      Wow, both are very impressive cars and two supercars on the Nurburgring is always enjoyable, but I'd take the GT-R. While the ZR1 is very impressive, the GT-R is simply an engineering marvel.
      • 3 Years Ago
      Cool Video, but the Dodge Viper ACR beat them both ;)
        • 3 Years Ago
        Your Comparing a stripped out trackday car, to fully equiped sports coupes. That is a ridiculous comparison.
        • 3 Years Ago
        Being last year's car makes it even more embarrassing. That this year's set of 'newer, better' cars still get beat, by the older ACR.
        Carlos
        • 3 Years Ago
        Tom you should change your name to butter because you're on a roll. *rimshot*
        • 3 Years Ago
        Ah but there is a 2012, (or 2013), Viper. They just haven't unveiled it yet.
        • 3 Years Ago
        lmao, thanks Carlos. I don't see why people voted down the post about the next gen Viper. Do they not pay attention on the Internet? Ralph Gilles has confirmed a new Viper, everyone is speculating what it's going to look like and some websites have even done their own prediction renders. Mr. Gilles even unveiled the next gen Viper logo.

        Ah well, haters gonna hate I suppose.
      • 3 Years Ago
      that 4 second gap could be even greater if GTR was on a completely dry track.
      • 3 Years Ago
      im tired of people comparing cars by how fast they went around the ring, there are too many variables, like drivers, weather, knowledge of the track etc, the gtr guys went around the ring probably more than any other car company with their sports car. if the vette guys practiced more who knows they might beat the gtr...
        • 3 Years Ago
        Jim Mero has run the 24hours of Le Mans and Nurburgring. He has over 1000 laps at the Ring.

        Google "Jim Mero, 24 hours". Entry lists and finish positions of races past pop up.

        His history is not all that different than Toshio Suzuki, a former F1 driver with no real fame to go with his racing career.

        Racing wash-outs test-driving cars for their respective manufacturers. Just so happens that Mero is a smart chap and got himself an engineering position, so he can actually request design changes to Corvettes as well as lap them.
        • 3 Years Ago
        when i looked him up all i saw was engineer, not test driver.
        • 3 Years Ago
        with these two cars, just compare drivers, gtr race driver, zr1 g.m engineer.
      • 3 Years Ago
      The issue I see is that there is no sanctioning body to ensure the tests are accurate and consistent. Just posting videos and comparing the footage is hardly an accurate test of two cars. They need to run back to back on the same track the same day both with good drivers, then maybe alternate drivers, play with tire pressure, etc. I don't want to take away from either car by making excuses. This is a statistical tie, we don't have enough data from the Zr1 to really compare it. The Nissan has made much more passes, but that's not their fault that Chevy does not care to compete in that way. But that does not mean they're faster than Chevy either. We don't have enough data guys, face it. They clearly have 'similar' performance. Who is faster depends on many different tiny variables. One thing for sure is that the ACR is faster than both.
      • 3 Years Ago
      In before the Corvette fanboys remind us of that fake Jan Magnussen 7:22.4 time the ZR1 never did.

      Road&Track actually emailed the Corvette development manager to congratulate him on a new Corvette record. His response? "What new record?"

      Google it. Or follow the yellow-brick link.

      http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DJ7pbqevuhkJ:forums.roadandtrack.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D36329+ZR1+7:22.4+bogus&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com

        • 3 Years Ago
        Also might as well mention that the 'bridge to gantry' distance is typical N-ring measurement.

        They don't like to do 13 miles and come all the way around for a flying lap, so the Ring runners like Horst von Saurma and other publications tend to get out of the pits, start timer, and stop timer, then pit again.

        This is typical. I see some confusion on last week's announcement.
      • 3 Years Ago
      The GT-R won hands down.
        • 3 Years Ago
        So the ZR1 can get on the brakes a lot later, and the GT-R can get on the throttle a lot earlier.

        I have a shining for the ZR1, personally, but the GT-R is quite the bit of engineering. The GT-R is also very forgiving to drive, whereas the ZR1 can get twitchy and break suddenly. For a track, I'd take the GT-R, because I'm definitely not as good a driver as the ones in the above video.
        • 3 Years Ago
        That's not forensics, its paranoia.

        GM themselves claimed there was a headwind and that the ZR1 could have gone faster down the back straight.

        Also, the 2 videos don't use the same start point. But they both follow the Youtube timer exactly.
        • 3 Years Ago
        I would still take the Vette, hands down!!

        I'm 27, so the "old man/Viagra" jokes from all the haters need not apply.

        The GT-R is pretty nice too.
        • 3 Years Ago
        But the Vette was leading until around the 5:40 mark in the tighter twisties, then the GT-R takes over and runs away with it.
        If they would just make it look better than the Corvette (or anything for that matter). I mean even with the GM spec interior and a shape barely tweaked since the intro of the C5 in the mid-nineties, I'd still take it over the GT-R. It's a shape that just makes my eyes bleed.
        The same can be said of the LF-A, STi, RX-8 & EVO...let's not even talk about Honda.
        When are the Japanese going to make a hands down beauty that can take on the world?
      • 3 Years Ago
      The GTR always seems to over perform when they test at the Nurburgring. That's why
      Porsche is so upset about this. In the Lightning Lap at Car and Driver the ZR1 did a
      2:51.8 vs. 2:55.6 for the GTR (generation 1) on a 4.1 mile track( VIR). Last month at
      Motor Trend the new gen 2 GTR at Willow Springs did a 1:20.25 vs 1:20.43 for the ZO6.
      Randy Pobst even admitted turning off the performance electric nanny's, even though
      it's been proven to help even Pro drivers. Only one car length difference at the end with
      Corvettes second fastest package. NO WAY will the GTR run faster than the ZR1.
      Nissan has been accused of manipulating these times in the past ( by Porsche). It's all
      too odd and seems phony.
        • 3 Years Ago
        The Streets of Willow 'Z06' was actually the Z07 package with Carbon option. Or, basically a ZR1 with an LS7 vs ab LS9 engine.

        And you are dodging that both the Z07 and the new GTR destroyed the old ZR1 time on that sane track.

        If you want to ignore manufacturer laps, be my guest. I actually prefer to see how an unbiased 3rd party will do with these cars.

        And Sport Auto was 4 seconds faster than the ZR1 with this new GTR on the Ring with the same driver.

        Sport Auto, with bone-stock GTRs has bested the Porsche claims by 16 and now 20 seconds.

        Porsche was full of sh1t and so are you for saying there is 'no way' the GTR will beat the ZR1 here. Not only can it, it has. Verified by reliable source.
      • 3 Years Ago
      you'll notice they were really close, then the corvette driver made a mistake, threw up his hand even, that's when the nissan took over.

      Great footage!
      • 3 Years Ago
      What I find interesting is that an extra 100hp, 550 lbs less weight and $25,000 in extra cash for the ZR1 doesn't seem to negate the advantage of the advanced AWD system in the GT-R.

      For my money, I'd take the GT-R hands down. I could buy a hundred or so extra horsepower with that extra $25K and still have some money left over for track days and tires.
        • 3 Years Ago
        I think the transmission alone accounts for nearly 4-5 seconds per lap.

        Think about it. Entering a turn:

        Vette driver:
        Take 1 hand off steering wheel.
        Lift off throttle ever so lightly
        Depress clutch
        Release Clutch while reengaging throttle and moving hand back to steering wheel and fighting to keep it straight.

        GTR driver:
        Pull 2 finger button behind steering wheel.
        Adjust throttle

        I'm a huge fan of manual transmissions but there is a HUGE reason all F1 cars don't use manuals.

        The computer age is upon us. It's almost like man versus machine in the late 1800's. Whether we like it or not the computer can make it faster.

        I seriously think they could shave off 4-5 seconds in just transmission alone if they got a 6 speed dsg style trans in there.

        I'd LOVE to see someone drop the ZR1 motor into a GT-R. I know it would be an abomination but anyone else love to see what the 650hp v8 can do with awd???

        It would be interesting!
      • 3 Years Ago
      who cares?
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