• Jan 21, 2011
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When Volkswagen announced it was teaming up with Suzuki for some joint projects, initial talk centered around small cars for emerging markets and possibly even a spate of two-wheeled ventures. Now, the rumormill is buzzing with speculation that the Japanese automaker might be interested in securing some of Volkswagen's well-regarded powerplants for its midsize Kizashi sedan.

Prior to its tie-up with VW, Suzuki had enjoyed a partnership with General Motors that had the Japanese automaker using The General's engines and transmissions. Those contracts died off after the VW deal, and, according to Ward's, it now appears that any future engines for the Kizashi beyond the 2.4-liter DOHC four-cylinder (185 horsepower and 170 lb-feet of torque) will be sourced from Volkswagen.

Currently, there's no indication what powertrains Suzuki is interested in procuring from Volkswagen, but we'd have to guess that a V6 or possibly even a hybrid would be on the menu, if possible.



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[Source: Ward's Automotive]


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      • 3 Years Ago
      Want to kill off Suzuki faster than it's already dying? Source crappy VW engines and questionable quality control... install in Suzukis.
        • 3 Years Ago
        There is nothing ot worry about Suzuki as the Company I mean. The parent company in Japan is wealthy enough and capable to tackle anything. I always say "..shame on American people that they are missing on how good Suzuki products are..." but sometimes I want to keep it that way so only "us", Suzuki fans who know about Suzuki are enjoying their Great vehicles.
        I agree with most of you about the VW engine. I always say that I don't mind buying VW if the use Suzuki engine but won't buy Suzuki with VW engine. :-)
      • 3 Years Ago
      MikeW: The VW 6's are technically v's. The angle of the V is so small that they just happen to be able to use a single head.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine

      As for the Kizashi getting VW motors. It doesn't make a lot of sense to use the 2.0T as it would only be about a 15hp increase. Sure the turbo motor makes its power more useable, but the increase just wouldn't be enough. They would either have to use the VR6 motor, or go the diesel route. I would love to see this car pack a diesel and a VW DSG. At the same time actual Suzuki parts(as in not the Daewoo stuff) have fairly good reliability, and I feel the VW stuff may detract from their ability to restore their name as a reliable brand.

      At the same time I'd be kinda sad as I recently bought a Kizashi GTS, and the only thing I would change about it is giving it more power. If it gets that I will feel kinda left out, but then again I was forced into having to buy a new car when someone decided they didn't have to stop for red lights and took my 350Z away from me so it's not like I could've just waited around for better powertrains.
        • 3 Years Ago
        The 2.0L VW engine is underrated, and even when not using those extra horses it makes a lot more torque. I'd prefer the TT-S version of the engine myself.
        • 3 Years Ago
        Using the 2.0T would do more than add power. That engine would also improve mileage. They could also decide to retune the 2.0 to make more power...it's certainly a powertrain capable of much more power (as my GTI proves ;)

        Really like the Kizashi...2.0T/DSG would make it a very compelling car.
      • 3 Years Ago
      That's a good question. I've driven the Road Race Motorsports Kizashi Turbo, and it's a streetable setup. I understand it's quite reliable, too. It really added the extra umph the car should have.
      • 3 Years Ago
      I'd bet it would be the 2.0 T considering that fuel economy/power is what consumers want these days. What better way than a small displacement high torque engine.

      And yes I do worry about reliablity with VW engines.
        • 3 Years Ago
        No way would VW/Audi put the mighty 2.0 TSI motor in a Suzuki (but maybe the unforced aspiration 2.5 5-pot).
        • 3 Years Ago
        Workhorse? The engine's, what, five years old? 95% of cars have basically perfect CR reliability scores in the first 5 years. So that doesn't say much.
        • 3 Years Ago
        Yeah, that 2.5L isn't doing anyone any favors. But I'd deal with it if it meant getting VW's 6-speed auto. I just can't put the Kazashi on my list with that CVT.
        • 3 Years Ago
        The 2.5 is thrashy, but is actually a workhorse when it comes to reliability. Just look at the consumer reports reviews on long term reliability; and it's considered pretty good with the auto or the manual....

        One of the few surprises in VW's lineup...
        • 3 Years Ago
        Suzuki's 2.4 already is more powerful and fuel efficient than VW 2.5 liter it wouldn't make any sense to use that engine.

      • 3 Years Ago
      Suzuki's are already unreliable, so are VW's, so it's a marriage made in hell, sounds great. What engine will VW offer first, the boat anchor 2.0L 115HP from the 80s?
      • 3 Years Ago
      Wouldn't the 2.0T make a lot more sense in this application? Or is VW worried about cannibalizing their own sales?
      • 3 Years Ago
      One word.TDI.
      • 3 Years Ago
      Actually, I'd rather VW (Jetta) got Suzuki's style.
      • 3 Years Ago
      Lets see what the Kizashi's reliability rating falls to after it switches to VW-sourced components.
        • 3 Years Ago
        YMMV, of course, but I've never had a problem with either of my VW's - and the only Suzuki I've seen is owned by a guy I work with and it's constantly in and out of the shop.

        I just work under the assumption that the data provided by Consumer Reports and the like are to be taken with a grain of salt, and that anything will work provided you maintain it properly.

        I'm obviously in the minority.
        • 3 Years Ago
        "Currently, there's no indication what powertrains Suzuki is interested in procuring from Volkswagen, but we'd have to guess that a V6 or possibly even a hybrid would be on the menu, if possible."

        There was actually news of this back in 3/2010 from Automotive News via Automobilemag.com..Suzuki even sent a team of engineers to Wolfsburg to investigate which VW engines can be utilized while keeping the Kizashi affordable.

        http://rumors.automobilemag.com/suzuki-kizashi-no-longer-getting-hybrid-or-v6-model-3678.html

        The way I see it, Suzuki would manufacture a VW powerplant under license..should it come into fruition that is...

        A shoehorned Japanese made/refined (read as "reliable"), VW/German designed narrow angle VR6 Kizashi would work in my book.
        • 3 Years Ago
        Dude you took the words right out of my mouth
        • 3 Years Ago
        Well, if you're getting your reliability data from JD Power's dependability survey, keep in mind that it still includes the Daewoo-built Suzukis (Reno and Forenza). That study takes into account vehicles that are three years old, and both were still made until 2008, so they showed up in the 2010 survey.

        I've had three Suzukis (I still have a 2010 SX4 and a 1995 Sidekick), and both have been reliable.
      • 3 Years Ago
      AWD Kizashi + TDI + 6 speed Manny

      I'd buy one
      • 3 Years Ago
      Kizashi TDI, sure I'll bite.
        • 3 Years Ago
        Are you reading my mind?
      • 3 Years Ago
      Forget about a hybrid or a V6 - what about the turbodiesel?!?!

      Kizashi + TDI + AWD + Manual Transmission = HEAVEN!!!
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