• Dec 23rd 2010 at 11:00AM
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2005 Jeep Gladiator Concept – Click above for high-res image gallery

Please join us in a collective sigh of exasperation. According to Automotive News, the much-rumored Jeep pickup that had us all salivating earlier this year may be little more than hyped-up vaporware. It would seem that while Chrysler's off-roading arm is game to create a small pickup once again, the vehicle isn't as writ in stone as we were all led to believe. From what we can tell, Jeep is facing some grief from the Ram squad for wanting to play in their sandbox. Additionally, all of Chrysler is staring at a pretty hefty dearth of engineers, so adding another ground-up build to the company's already sizable honey-do list isn't exactly on the table.

And what of the military-spec Jeep truck currently on sale elsewhere around the globe? Automotive News says that Chrysler thinks it wouldn't be worth the effort (or money) to try to dilute that vehicle down far enough for civilian duty. Maestro, cue up the sad trombone, if you'd be so kind.

That means that we can probably scrap the notion of seeing Jeep pickup by next year as we were initially led to believe. If the vehicle does manage to get past all of the hurdles before it, the pickup likely won't see the light of day for a good long while.



[Source: Automotive News]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      i would never consider buying a Ram... i very much want this Jeep truck though.

      so Chrysler... do you want one sale or no sale? i'm sure i'm not the only one.
      • 4 Years Ago
      With the Ranger, Colorado/Canyon, and Dakota most likely being dropped within the next couple years, now would be a perfect time for Jeep to release a good small-ish pickup. Dodge/Ram could even make a less off-road aggressive version of the same vehicle and call it the Dakota if they are worried about the impact on Ram Trucks.

      While it may not be a huge market, if they can take over sales from the Ranger, Colorado/Canyon, and Dakota that easily has the potential to sell well over 100,000 trucks a year. Definitely worth the investment when you consider that the entire Ram Trucks brand doesn't even sell over 200,000 trucks a year right now.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Dakota is confirmed to be dropped for 2012, with a replacement within a year after that.
      • 4 Years Ago
      While they're at it, bring back the inline engines for the Wrangler. A V-6 is completely out of character. Likewise the 4-door Wrangler Unlimited.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Damn!! That appears too good to pass up. It fits all kinds of niches that no one has thought about, let alone addressed.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Can anyone get through to Fiat, "Ram," or Chrysler and tell them to look at this article and the majority of the comments. Possibly, hopefully, this upswelling could produce a positive effect and cause this product be brought to market.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Why not make it a soft/removable top like the Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited??? How awesome would that be???

        This is a vehicle that chrysler should definitely build. After all the mistakes over the decades, this would not be one of them... I mean $33K+ wranglers are selling with their horrible mpgs... throw in a flat bed... it makes so much sense.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @LUST-STANG S-197

        That's what I mean... despite the high gas prices and sometime faux pas of driving a gas guzzler, the not great MPGs of Wranglers don't deter people from buying them.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @John

        People who buy Wranglers don't buy them with high mpg in mind. The Gladiator would likely be a similar case scenario, but I still think Chrysler needs to build this. To hell with Rams, they are too big, fat, and heavy for me. The Gladiator looks like it would actually be fun to drive.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Holy crap! Right?! Can someone pleaaase make a small pickup truck, no crazy frills, with a efficient diesel, or hell even gasoling if it gets good mpg and towing!! Two or four door option with a long or short bed to make it perfect for everyone. Goodness, is there no one who wants to take up this virtually free market!?
      • 4 Years Ago
      Everyone is missing the point and mostly the people at Chrysler...............................

      Why not just make it FULL SIZE???????


      They do not have to worry if the new Dakota is going to be unibody or not.

      They already have the full size Ram.....


      Just make a Jeep line and make it look like a JEEP


      A midsize truck would be nice.... but make it full size?
      • 4 Years Ago
      Would have made a great niche vehicle.
      The concept is so friggin cool.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Jeep didn't think anyone wanted a 4 door Wrangler, then in 2007 they took a chance. It is a great success. I've been a Jeeper for many years and I can tell you in the early 2000's many more owners were asking for a pickup than a 4 door. My thought, a pickup would be very successful and require far less engineering time then making the 4 door.

      As for taking away Ram sales, are you kidding me? Two completely different trucks. That's like saying neither the Challenger nor the Sebring should be built since they might take away from 300C sales.
      • 4 Years Ago
      A shame-- this thing would sell like mad.
        • 4 Years Ago
        With the Dakota Replacemnt (Ram 1000?) going to be unibody, I can see why the Ram Group would argue. Although I think it would probably be just as capable as the Ram 1500 in many ways (if its rumored build off the Durango Platform still carries over.)

        Recap Ram 1000:
        -Durango Wheelbase within 2" of Honda Ridgeline.
        -Durango has 7400# Tow Rating (Higher the Ridgeline.)
        -Should be smaller than a Ridgeline, but still fit 4' material between wheel wells.
        -Traiditonal Bed Box design vs. Ridgeline's. As a unibody, maybe to follow the Subaru Baja's Strucutral accent by making the exposed tubing chrome accenting.
        -Probable 4 cylinder along with 3.6l V6 and 5.7l V8 power.
        -Projected pricing structure should mirror Tacoma ($15k stripper model base price)

        For a Jeep Pickup/Commanche was produced, what you would need if it stays unibody:
        -Jeep Grand Cherokee looks as it would share its platform and off road tech probably.
        -This would price it higher ($30k starting range probably.)

        For a Jeep J8/Wrangler/Gladiator based pickup:
        -Based of the 116" Wrangler Unlimited Platform, we know the J8 version can do a Regular Cab with a Bed on the length wheelbase and still tow 7716#s with a few upgrades.
        -For consumer use, their would need to be an Extended Cab and a Crew/Quad Cab. So I see another Wheelbase stretch in need. The problem for Jeep will be that in order for it to be a true Jeep, overhangs are important, which means pushing the wheels to the corner, which means longer wheelbases. A Crew Cab with a short bed, and the ability to fold seats forward to expand the cargo bed like what they showed in the Gladiator may make a small bed (5') Crew Cab work. Than you make an Extended Cab with a larger bed, and share one wheelbase stretch for 2 additional sizes.

        The Wrangler route would be the cheapest. You arleady know with a few upgrades, this thing platform can handle the load as the J8 militray specs do. The problem will be Chrysler might be waiting for a mid cycle update as its certain the new 3.6lV6 and 8 speed auto will be going into these wranglers. I'm sure a Fiat sourced Diesel will also go in here.

        The Wranglers play in the $20k-$30k area, so I'm sure Dakota/Ram1000 sales could be shared. But the unibody crowd will not be cross shopping Jeep's off road abilities, and like wise the Off Road guys looking for a cheaper tougher truck will not shop the Ram1000.

        It for that reason above Fiat will probably give it the green light, and Ram will just have to do an amazing job on the Dakota/Ram1000 to make it the Ridgeline Honda didn't build at Tacoma prices.
        • 4 Years Ago
        The problem is that the starting price would most likely be higher than the RAM 1500s without the same capabilities. I would love to see this but like the Dakota, it probably wouldn't sell that great...
        • 4 Years Ago
        @That One Person

        Yes, but this actually would have some off-road capabilities, far more than any new Ram. It's a Wrangler pickup, which means it actually has a proper suspension, which none of the other Dodge trucks have, so they have no right to complain.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Yes, but this is a lot better looking than the Dakota. That truck just doesn't have the draw to it the bigger Ram does. This truck at least has a distinct styling that will pull people in. Kill the Dakota and make this!
        • 4 Years Ago
        Then why doesnt ram produce an small off road manual pickup... rather than building crap that cant seem to ever best chevy and ford... they need to get off their high horse...
        • 4 Years Ago
        Chrysler sees to still be afraid of making money. The Dakota is an unmitigated failure, even amongst its peers in a failing segment. Why not put the Dakota out to pasture and build a small pickup with some character, and oh, by the way, the off road capabilities of a Jeep?
      • 4 Years Ago
      That reminds me of the 50's Willy's PU......... I love it.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Fiat? Gross.
      joe
      • 4 Years Ago
      Why does anyone care what Chrysler brings to the market, they been building junk forever. They should have not given them a bailout.
      • 4 Years Ago
      this thing should have been out 80 years ago.
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