• Dec 20th 2010 at 9:26AM
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Car and Driver's German correspondent delivered some bad news to enthusiasts with the revelation that the Audi RS4 won't get a "direct successor" because the RS5 is enough for all-wheel drive performance junkies. How the Audi brass came to that conclusion is beyond us – a fighting four door is just as entertaining and vastly more practical than its coupe counterpart. Just ask BMW. It was smart enough to offer the E92 M3 in both sedan and coupe form.

In related news, C/D's "Continental" says that the RS6 will live on, likely with a twin-turbocharged V8. Our own sources suggest that engine will displace 4.0 liters and output close to 600 horsepower. So, one out of two ain't bad...



[Source: Car and Driver]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      Didn't need C&D to tell me this. It's pretty old news that the RS5 would supplant the RS4.

      You see, BMW is only partially run by accounts...Audi is ENTIRELY run by accountants.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Audi = FAIL

      - 1st, Audi FAILS by not ADDING forced induction to the V8 for the S4/S5.
      - Then, they STILL do not ADD forced induction to the V8 in the RS5.
      - Finally, no SEDAN at ALL for the RS ????


      Audi = FAIL
      • 4 Years Ago
      That is sad, we need a new RS4. Taking along time for the RS5 to come out too.
      • 4 Years Ago
      One of the best affordable Cars in this Segment ... RIP
        • 4 Years Ago
        Best deal in the segment? Not even. The last gen RS4 started at $67 and could go all the way up to $80K+. In fact the RS4 was pretty much a standout, because it had a V-8 and 400hp+ years before the M3 or IS-F, but even today if it still sold, it would be higher than the M3, IS-F and even the 556hp CTS-V. Great car, but not something I would call a bargin.
        • 4 Years Ago
        not really, the repairs costs are high.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Judging by the looks.... it could be the next next or the one before last generation.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I had the RS4 Cab. What a beast! I called it the "Panzer" and loved it when it worked. Direct injection meant carbon buildup on the valves (Porsche, Ferrari, BMW and others are all seeing this now), and after a few sessions of dealing with it, I got rid of the car. But I can't emphasize how much I loved it when it was working correctly. Under 5000 rpms it was docile if powerful. Above 5000 rpms it just screamed and came alive.

      Recently I drove the M3 sedan (manual) back to back with an RS4 sedan. Basically looking for a daily. Went in really wanting to like the M3. Came away a bit underwhelmed. Suspension was prone to some surprisingly powerful freeway hop no matter the setting, and the engine note was weedy after the bellow of the RS4 above 5000 rpms. For every day driving the clutch and brakes felt different yet equal, but once above 25 mph the RS4 had better steering turn-in and feel. It surprising to know that the RS4 was the more emotional drive. I went in thinking it would be the opposite. So now I have to decide if I should roll the dice and get another RS4 or keep looking for something else. Needs to be 4 doors, normally aspirated, and stickshift. A rare bird these days.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I rode in a dark blue RS4 recently, and I gotta say I wasn't impressed. It didn't have any exhaust note to listen to, and it didn't feel all that fast either. That was my friend's dad's car, but to be honest that friend's '08 Si with a good amount of engine work was a lot more fun of a car to ride in, and that's before he put a supercharger on it.
        • 4 Years Ago
        • 4 Years Ago
        LOL. The point of a fast car is that it can be driven fast easily. It's just driving along comfortably, looking down and seeing the speedo closing in on (or over) 100 mph - that's the mark of a fast car.
        • 4 Years Ago
        414BHP and 0-60 in 4.8 secs and "it didn't feel that fast"

        Really?
        • 4 Years Ago
        because it has a topnotch drive train and a very good suspention.

        a good fast car shouldn't feel fast.
        that's why it's boring to drive a expensive car in city traffic, it's like you're not moving.

        if you ever have driven a mercedes or co up tot 250km/h, you will feel safe.
        but if you drive a honda up tot 250km/h you must pay alot of attention or you will cause something violent and mabye die.

        a german car can be driven 250km/h like it's nothing, that's the whole clue about an expensive car.

        further checkout the frontwheel suspention on any audi except the a3 and lower.

        • 4 Years Ago
        Ok, it makes sense now that the car would be tuned for going much faster, so it feels too stable at lower speeds. I like 'usably fast' cars where you get all the fun and feeling of going fast without having to find somewhere safe to break the law.

        From inside, the Audi made no engine noise, which was a big disappointment. From the outside it sounded okay.

        Finally, the reason why I compare the two cars is because they belonged to my friend and his dad, and I rode in them back-to-back. They're both small 4-door performance cars, albeit one is FWD I4 and the other is AWD V8, so I'd say they're not completely unalike. Personally I'd rather ride in the Civic again. I'm not saying the Audi wasn't fast, I'm saying it didn't feel fun.
        • 4 Years Ago
        First the Civic Si and Audi RS4 are not in the same category. Did you not read the article on the Civic Si? Here it is: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/29/2010-honda-civic-si-review-road-test/

        Riding in a fast car and driving in a fast car are two totally different experiences. I would say that a FWD I4 and an AWD V8 are to TOTALLY different cars. They have different characteristics that make them unique. With the Si you have torque steer, not much mid-range torque.

        Let's not talk about other fun stuff that you can do with the RS4 that the Si CAN'T do or Can't do well.

        Controlled Power Slides
        Fun in the snow
        Road Racing

        I will give the Si credit in drag racing, but that's only after you slapped some form of Forced induction and put the car on the diet. Other than that a STOCK RS4 would destroy a STOCK Civic Si in the quarter mile.

        Have you done any road racing or HPDE's? You should try and put the Si through it's paces on one of those and then the RS4. You would be saying that the civic is not fun.

        Imagine hitting the apex of a turn and you have the luxury of a big V8 with decent mid to high range torque and you are able to plant your right foot because you have AWD and the torque to get you through the turn.

        On the Si you don't have that luxury, plus you have only one wheel to carry you through the turn when I have 4....
        • 4 Years Ago
        300hp AND torque? I have never seen any forced induction K20 engine achieve that the Closest was a 315hp 265ft-tq Turbo RSX.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Exhaust note and other comparison between RS4 and Si = loss of credibility.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Some cars have a lot of horsepower and don't feel fast, while others don't have much and feel incredibly fast. The Si was making 300hp/tq at the wheels, 375 now, and had a racing header with a good catback so it sounded amazing. Only base Civics with fart cans, and Si's with the wrong kind of exhaust sound farty.

        Now, the RS4 had good acceleration, but it just didn't feel fast. It felt too smooth, which isn't what I'm looking for if I buy a top-line performance car.
        • 4 Years Ago
        That smoothness is called awd and a well sorted suspension. The lack of smoothness in the si is due to a little thing called torque steer. You call it exciting, we call it wasted power. potato..........patahto
      • 4 Years Ago
      This comes as no surprise really. The RS4 has never been and never will be continuously offered. Last RS4 before this (B7) one was on the B5 platform. None was offered on the B6. They'll skip the B8, offer us something different in coupe form (RS5), and it will be back towards the end of the life cycle of the B9, which will essentially be a facelift of the current B8 platform. So, RS4 will be back soon enough imo.
        • 4 Years Ago
        exactly. frankly i'm surprised autoblog didn't mention this in their little blurb, they're at least vaguely familiar with the brand.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Going by the sales numbers, the M3 Coupe handily outsold the M3 Sedan, so the manufacturers must be drawing conclusions that in the compact segment a high performance coupe bodystyle is preferred by the majority of customers.

      Filed under "It's Your Own Damn Fault for Not Buying More M3 Sedans"
        • 4 Years Ago
        It's always been that way, with M3 sedans being vastly overshadowed by the coupe. To say nothing of the wagon. But making the car available in other bodies is what helps make the car more exclusive.

        Even Caddy figured this out with the CTS-V wagon (should be CTW-V, or CVW). And with the CTS-V coupe (like above, should be CTC-V / CVC) now available, one can expect to see the Caddy coupe eventually overshadow the sedan.

        The problem with Audi is that tha A4 / A5 aren't unified under the same naming umbrella like the M3 and CTS-V. So the RS4 / RS5 aren't obviously related any more than the RS5 and RS6.
      • 4 Years Ago
      must be a business decision
      they always kill the fun cars enthusiasts want
      ah well, i'm not a big audi fan anyways
        • 4 Years Ago
        business decision? nah. just consistency. we're seeing a refresh every second generation, thus no B8 RS4, but a B9. Nothing new, nothing changing, just the same plan we've seen audi execute for about half a decade now. Not sure why this is news really.
      • 4 Years Ago
      RS models are supposed to be wagons anyway.
      • 4 Years Ago
      My fav Audi....well this and the S8.


      New Audi's dont do it for me... the most interesting things on new Audi are their LED's.. their lights are more creative then the actual car...
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