• Nov 22, 2010
Pagani C9 spy pics – Click above for high-res image gallery

For reasons unclear, Mercedes and Pagani both felt the need to quash increasing speculation that the V12 in the coming Pagani C9 has anything to do with the V12 in the SL65 AMG Black Series. AMG is developing the motor for Pagani's next supercar, and Road & Track and Autocar had both said the Pagani engine was an evolution of a mill from Mercedes.

The twin-turbo V12 in the Black Series was rated at 670 horsepower and 730 pound-feet – itself a massaged and tuned version of the motor in the standard SL65 AMG. The joint statement to refute said, however, that "The engine of the Pagani C9 is not a derivative of the AMG V12 engine developed for the SL65 Black Series, nor is the AMG V12 engine in the SL65 Black Series derived from the engine AMG is currently developing for the Pagani C9." That about says it all, no?



[Source: AutoWeek | Images: CarPix]]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      The word Awesome is just not enough to describe the sound of this vehicle.
      The 7.3l AMG v12 is pure art.

      I hope they manage to do the same with the new 6.0
      • 4 Years Ago
      As good as the Black Series V12 is supposed to be, I guess they want to make it clear that this is a more special purpose-built engine, a la the McLaren F1. With this special engine, Pagani's legendary engineering and build quality, and less awkward proportions than the Zonda, this is shaping up to be one hell of a car!
      • 4 Years Ago
      "only 600-700 hp" LOL
        • 4 Years Ago
        rebuild after 1000 km anyone? don't get me wrong but comparing a custiomized turbocharged i6 to a a factory customized na V12 doesn't make you look like a moron, it makes you look like a prius hybrid driver.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I dunno.. I attended the 2004 Supra meet In Houston, and if you weren't putting down 1kHP on dyno day, you didn't even get on the leader board.. Sorta desensitized me wrt to power...
        • 4 Years Ago
        The issue doesn't come down to how much power the engine can put down, its how much power is the manufacturer comfortable with the engine putting down. Even in fickle supercars where low mileage, frequent services, and expensive parts are the norm, the manufacturer can't risk engine/transmission/drive-train failures because the engine is too high strung.

        One of the few things that Bernie has done with F1 that I like is require that engines run multiple races. The technology envelopes they push there to improve reliability, we will see in future supercars and eventually every car.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Hatzenbach

        The 2JZ is absurdly strong. If done right you can get 1000hp out of it and still have it be reliable.

        Of course the engine will weigh half a ton.. which does have performance drawbacks should you be into turning and handling.

        You know you are a road racing guy when after you hear hp numbers you immediately want to know how much it weighs and how big it is.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I'm tired of these weaksauce 12-pots with only 600-700 hp. I mean, what the hell are you supposed to do with something like that? 0-60 in more than 1 second?

      Damn, seriously, when will someone do something about this?


      ;)