• Nov 15, 2010
Pickuptrucks.com published its Heavy-Duty Shootout over the summer, which the truck-centric site calls the most exhaustive testing of pickups you'll find anywhere (it's true). The title bout of that competition featured Detroit's best diesel-powered three-quarter and one-ton pickups, with the Chevy Silverado HD coming out on top. But while victory was sweet for the Bowtie brand, some Blue Oval fans bemoaned the fact that the Super Duty trucks weren't of the "Job Two" variety. The Job Two trucks from Ford featured an ECU reflash for their 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 diesel engines, which resulted in a power bump to best-of-class levels of 400 horsepower and 800 pound-feet of torque. So on paper, the Job Two Super Duty appeared to be more stout than the Silverado HD and its 6.6-liter Duramax V8 diesel rated at 397 hp and 765 lb-ft of torque.

2011 Ford Super DutyBut General Motors didn't back down, instead challenging The Blue Oval's truck team to a mountainous tow-off. Ford refused. Instead of walking away, GM offered Pickuptrucks.com the opportunity to observe a competition between the Ford and Chevy, an opportunity the truck site couldn't pass up, with stipulations. The trucks had to be purchased off the dealer lot, equipment levels had to be as close as possible and the testing would have to be performed by Pickuptrucks.com and Diesel Power magazine, with Chevy merely looking on.

The trucks were driven out to Dillon, Colorado to the Eisenhower Pass on Interstate 70 for a 7.6-mile mountain course with grades ranging between five and seven percent at an elevation that topped two miles high. With four adults and an 18,920-pound trailer for each truck, the overall GCWR of the Chevy came in at 27,940 pounds, while the Ford tipped the scales at 28,160 pounds. The very simple goal was to determine which one-ton truck would reach the summit first, as well as to compare how their exhaust brakes performed.

[SPOILER ALERT: Follow the jump to find out who won or read the official results at Pickuptrucks.com]

[Source: Pickuptrucks.com]

The winner? The Silverado HD managed to win every segment, and by a shockingly wide margin for a truck that's supposed to be down on power, at least on paper, compared to its competitor. For example, the Silverado finished the 7.3-mile uphill haul a full two minutes before the Ford, with an average speed 11 miles per hour faster than the Super Duty.

Coincidentally, not ten minutes after Pickuptrucks.com published the results of its competition, Ford issued a press release (below) extolling the virtues of its heavy-duty truck. In particular, the release points out that the Super Duty currently commands a 50-percent share of the heavy-duty pickup market, and that Ford's truck alone accounts for 80 percent of the segment's growth this year.
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FORD SUPER DUTY DOES HEAVY LIFTING: GRABS 50 PERCENT OF HEAVY-DUTY MARKET, ACCOUNTS FOR SEGMENT GROWTH

* Ford Super Duty grabs 50 percent of heavy-duty truck market, its highest since 2001

* Super Duty accounts for 80 percent of this year's growth in the heavy-duty segment

* Two all-new engines, including award-winning 6.7-liter Power Stroke® diesel, help lead the way

DEARBORN,Mich., Nov. 15, 2010 – One of every two heavy-duty pickups sold in the United States in the first nine months of the year is a Ford F-Series Super Duty.

The new Super Duty dominates the heavy-duty pickup segment with 50 percent of total heavy-duty sales, an increase in market share of 5 percentage points over the same period last year – its highest share since 2001. This is according to a Ford analysis of recently released registration data by R.L. Polk.

Furthermore, the heavy-duty pickup segment is growing – up 17 percent over last year – and Super Duty accounts for 80 percent of that heavy-duty segment growth.

The all-new Ford-designed, Ford-engineered and Ford-built 6.7-liter Power Stroke diesel engine has helped drive Super Duty's sales performance in 2010. In September, the engine was recognized by Ward's Automotive as Best Diesel Truck Engine after rigorous testing against competitive trucks.

Rated at 400 horsepower and 800 lb.-ft. of torque, the new engine delivers the best-in-class towing and hauling capability as well as highest fuel economy in its class, a full 20 percent better than the outgoing model. Click www.fordvehicles.com/2011superduty/.

The 2011 Super Duty, which went on sale in April, also received a new 6.2-liter gas engine. Other upgrades include a new six-speed automatic transmission, live-drive power takeoff technology, a new instrument panel, factory-installed fifth-wheel towing package and more.

"As always, our goal is to better satisfy the needs of our customers. Super Duty's continued sales and share leadership is validation that whether those needs are capability, durability, quality, power, performance, fuel economy, technology or safety, we are succeeding," says Doug Scott, Ford Truck Group marketing manager.

In October, Ford's entire F-Series lineup became the first nameplate in the industry in 2010 to top 400,000 units sold.

The new 2011 F-150 arrives in dealerships later this month with the most extensive powertrain makeover in the 62-year history of F-Series. Among the new engines coming are two fuel economy leaders: the 3.7-liter V6 at 17 mpg city, 23 mpg highway; and the 5.0-liter V8 at 15 mpg city, 21 mpg highway. The truck also offers the 6.2-liter V8 in specialized models. The highly anticipated 3.5-liter EcoBoost™ engine-powered F-150 comes to market early next year.


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      WALDO
      • 2 Years Ago
      I have no complaints with my 2011 F-250 6.7 Diesel. I pull a 32' travel trailer in Colorado and New Mexico with no problems at all. Plenty of power even with the 3.31 gears. Millage is fandamedtastic at 20.5 - 21.0 without the trailer and 17.8 (as of last tank full) with it. I'm very satisfied and that is what counts. Keep the DEF full and the exhaust pipe clean, change the fuel filters when told to do so and you shouldn't have problem one! I do wish they would do something about the interior. It's not bad for a work truck, however, when you pay 40,000 + thousand dollars you expect better. I agree with one writer that the GM interior looks "cheese" and the Ram looks cheap while the Ford looks functional. Sorry, but I would like a better looking interior. Overall Ford is my choice and I've owned both GM and Ford...
      • 4 Years Ago
      I've always been a Ford truck guy, but this is good news for Chevy. Gotta be some GM advertising dollars coming to pickuptrucks.com and diesel power mag in the very near future eh?

      • 4 Years Ago
      Actually this test is just a snapshot of one scenario of a truck's usability.

      If there is a weakness in the two turbo system that Ford has employed, then I can guarantee that Ford will address this.

      Also keep in mind that despite what is slapped on the side of a truck, Chevrolet has only started building HD pickup trucks. 2010 and before models were simply tarted up light-duty trucks with big boy engines.

      I am sure that the same glee that the Chevrolet people feel right now about actual performance thus renders their Shamaro unworthy of purchase; afterall, Chevrolet only doctored the output numbers and the new 2011 Mustang kicks Shamaro butt in all phases of the game.

      What will be interesting is to see which company brings corrected and signficant upgrades to their models first? Will Ford address the high altitude breathing issues first or will Chevrolet put modern engines that have power and fuel-efficiency in their Shamaro. Please note that in the two years the Shamaro has been on the market, Chevrolet hasn't even changed the worst dashboard in the industry yet.
      • 4 Years Ago
      No comparison needs to be done. Ford sells the most because they last the longest, GMs overall have horrible engines. Hmmm wonder why Ford didn't need a bailout and GM did.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Dodge shut them both down nowadays for durability, comfort and looks! What's the deal leaving out Rams?
      • 4 Years Ago
      AS A MECHANIC WITH 45 YEARS EXPERENCE I PREFER FORDS .TAKE A CHEVY WITH 100,000 MILES ON IT AND A FORD WITH THE SAME MILES AND PUT THEM ON THE LIFT,90% OF THE TIME THE CHEVY WILL BE LEAKING OIL OR COOLANT .A GAL AT THE SHOP BOUGHT A NEW V8 CAMARO THAT HAD AN OIL LEAK AT THE BACK OF THE ENGINE BEHIND THE BELLHOUSING RIGHT OFF THE LOT !!! THERE IS A BULLETIN FOR THIS. MY WIFE BOUGHT A BRAND NEW 1984 FIREBIRD TRANS AM WHICH DIDNT EVEN RUN RIGHT (WICKED SURGE/FUEL STARVATION AT 2500/3500 RPM IN 2ND GEAR ).AFTER TRYING TO BLOW US OFF SAYING WE WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE THIS COMPLAINT I SAW AN ARTICLE IN ONE OF THE CAR MAGAZINES WHICH STATED THERE WERE BULLETINS TO FIX THESE COMPLAINTS WHICH ALSO APPLIED TO THE CAMARO .THEY HAD TO REPLACE THE VAPOR CANNISTER AND ADD A FEEDER FUEL PUMP TO MAKE IT RUN RIGHT.WITHIN THE FIRST 3000 MILES THE T-TOP SEALS LEAKED,THE ELEC.RAD FAN QUIT AND THE ALTERNATOR TERMINAL BURNED.LUCKLY IT DIDNOT CATCH THE CAR ON FIRE .MY WIFE HAD TO HEAR A LOT OF "I TOLD YOU SO "
      • 4 Years Ago
      I've been driving a FORD F350 SD Powerstroke 7.3 Ltr. diesel for the last 10 years. The only performance mods that I have made have been a computer chip, a 5" exhaust, and a transmission valve body to eliminate the originally slushy shift of the Auto trans. I have pulled 20,000# with it, and countless car trailers over its 150,000 mile lifetime. This truck has served me well and has been able to handle every task that I have presented to it. While the FORD Vs. Chevy argument will go on for the remainder of recorded time, all I can say is that when the time comes to replace my '01 F350, I will not pass go, and will make a beeline for my FORD dealer. This truck has without a doubt represented itself well and has earned my respect. I agree that the Chevrolet / GMC pickups are certainly more handsome, and the first thing that I will change on my new FORD will be the grille. The last thing I will be doing is trying to see if I make it to the top of the hill first or not.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Well goverment motors is off the list .That leaves only one company not goverment owned.I,ll take Ford.
      • 4 Years Ago
      'To help manage these astonishing weights, which we couldn’t have imagined a decade ago'

      I agree, that's pretty amazing. Each of these vehicles is hauling 12 tons total weight uphill and braking it downhill. In a light duty truck! That's wild.

      And I'm glad they got a pro driver, I can't imagine driving 12 tons at 60mph on mountain roads.

      Finally, reading this, the Chevy is a slam dunk for this purpose. I know not everyone tows heavy loads in the mountains, but if you do, the better exhaust brake on the Chevy will be a godsend to you and the extra power won't hurt either.
        • 4 Years Ago
        On that pro driver:

        'For those of you saying, “Hey, wait a minute. If GM gave you both trucks, that stacks this test in GM’s favor.” We thought of that, too. We decided the best way to offset this perceived advantage was to hire a former Ford Motor company engineer to drive both trucks during all of our testing. Our driver’s name is Harry Rawlins, and he was previously Ford’s Trailer Tow Engineer. Holding that job title meant Rawlins was intimately familiar with Ford’s (as well as GM’s and Dodge’s) towing capabilities. Rawlins also holds a Class A commercial driver’s license (CDL), which meant he was the only person in the test legally able to drive the trucks towing this much weight. Plus, in the sense of full disclosure, Rawlins is also a Super Duty owner.' [dieselpowermag.com]

        It strikes me that they hired a well-qualified driver who knows his stuff for the testing.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Boy, fords testing on their website sure came up different. Even though ford tested the upgraded version , i can't believe it would still make up the difference of times.
        • 4 Years Ago
        According to the link and the breakdown of specs for the Ford, this test did in fact utilize the Job2 programming.

        Makes sense considering that a large part of the intro to the test talked about how Ford fans complained that the last test didn't include Job2 trucks.

        Secondly, since they bought the trucks at a dealership, I'd imagine by now that virtually all Super Duty's on the lot are of the Job2 variety as well.
      studebakermon
      • 4 Years Ago
      Ford still stands for FOUND ON ROAD DEAD
      • 4 Years Ago
      When was the last time any of you was towing through the rockies. Brining it down to normal elevation where the results actually have some meaning.
      Chevy chose the route because they knew the ford's turbo isnt as good at sipping thin air. I would still bet on the ford at normal altitudes.
      would also bet on the ford's superior reliability.
        • 4 Years Ago
        If, like most F-series trucks you see on the road, you run empty bed, it makes no difference whatsoever which truck you get. Both trucks will wear huge tires and support a lift kit. And both will haul you and a passenger without any problem at all.
        • 4 Years Ago
        No, it is a valid comparo, just a specific, intensionally chosen case where chevy has a significant advantage.
        • 4 Years Ago
        The SuperDuty hasn't been reliable since the age-old 7.3, stop kidding yourself. Yeah the duramax has had its problems from generation to generation, but never have they been as serious as the ones contemporary Powerstrokes have had. And that certainly won't change with this new clean sheet design.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Chevy chose the route because it's a tough route. Same as with people picking the Ring - it's a tough course. Both routes are long enough that clear differences become visible.

        BTW, being turbocharged, both engines will spin air in far more effectively than any NA engine. It's not like Chevy was running their turbo vs non-turbo Ford.

        Oh, wait. Ford did precisely that, running their turbo MKS against various 5-liter Germans. In Denver. 12000 feet up. Funny that they wouldn't run against a blown 535i at that altitude, eh? Funnier that they still lost to the 550i.

        http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/05/lincoln-mks-ecoboost-earns-second-place-in-6versus8-com-showdown/
        • 4 Years Ago
        So Chevy had the advantage?

        Isn't that kinda', you know... The point? Moron...
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