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Honda has not yet given up in the entry-level hybrid fight. There's the new Jazz (Fit) hybrid, for one thing, but the older Insight hybrid isn't being left in the dust, either. Autocar reports that some of the lessons from the Jazz are being applied to the Insight – most importantly that the "stop" time of the Insight's stop-start cycle can now be up to 90 seconds long in Eco Mode. Because of "obscure patenting reasons" that made the system assume a worst-case humidity situation, the previous limit was just 30 seconds. This change can save a lot of gas in city driving. There are no new miles-per-gallon numbers to tout just yet, but it's a nice green upgrade nonetheless.

Honda has also apparently upgraded, "the recoil rate of the springs, a change of the rear camber angles and alterations to the V-shape rear suspension brace and adjusting mounts," for a better driving experience, Autocar writes. Wonder why Honda felt this was important?



[Source: Autocar]


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      • 3 Months Ago
      "the recoil rate of the springs, a change of the rear camber angles and alterations to the V-shape rear suspension brace and adjusting mounts," for a better driving experience"

      - D*mn, will these changes be dealer upgradable?
      Yes, it would be nice if the auto-stop lasted as long as a red light.
      • 3 Months Ago
      I've driven the Insight many times. It's one of the cars available from Autoshare (a Canadian car sharing company.) The idle-stop feature works for more than 30 seconds. The duration varies, of course, depending on a number of factors, but it is most definitely not limited to 30 seconds.

      Imagine sitting at a railway crossing for several minutes, on a cool day, with the AC off, and the battery fully charged...during which time the engine cycled on and off every 30 seconds. This does NOT happen in the Insight. That would be absurd. The press would have had a feeding frenzy over it when the car was introduced. It wouldn't be an obscure flaw that's just coming to light now.

      That article needs clarification, to say the least.
        • 3 Months Ago
        I'm not sure the "press" would have caught it.
        I'm not sure most of the press has even driven the car. Most reviews seem to be fact-free rants. Many of the press seem to have been Terrified to even press the "Econ" button.

        No one from the press even noticed that in econ mode, the electric motor does more work, and the engine seems to run on a leaner mixture. Take it out of econ and the car is fast, surprisingly fast for a car with an 100hp engine.
        Noz
        • 3 Months Ago
        A LOT of things on Autoblog need constant clarification...it's the Fox News of auto news IMO....lot's of sensational BS and little substance.

        Get it together.
      • 3 Months Ago
      Wait... the engine stop only lasted 30 seconds to begin with?
      My gas car can do that for longer than 15 minutes..
      • 3 Months Ago
      And what is the ride and handling like now?
      Did their suspension engineer go on vacation for a year?
      Was this car not tested before release?
      • 3 Months Ago
      I own a 2010 Insight.
      I have driven it in the eco mode the whole time I have own it.
      I'm not happy with the auto shut, because it does not happen everytime I come to a stop.
      However, I have gotten as high as 52 mpg to 38 mpg when I romp on it.
      The avg for it is 41.2 mpg with 9240 miles.
      When it is over 80F I have the ac on.
      This is my 3rd Honda; 87CRX, 00Civic, it handles just as well as my civic.
      I'm disappoint with Honda for sticking with thew Insight brand which prevented some benefits available to new Hybrid cars.
      • 3 Months Ago
      I'll believe hundreds of real-world "fan-boys" (whatever that means - actual owners I guess in real life driving situations over thousands of miles???) than some idiot from a car magazine who's got the car loaned for a day and flogs the crap out of it and reports mileage is bad.

      As it happens, these real life fanboys are getting consistenly 40-50 MPG on daily drives. The mileages seem to drop below 40 MPG (36-39MPG) when they are hard on the accelerator.

      For a car that's being flogged, that's better than 99% of the cars out there...for all the criticism Honda gets for their hybrids, please name how many other cars get such good mileage overall when being pushed hard. One car....maybe 2???

      • 3 Months Ago
      The start-stop duration will have no effect on EPA numbers because that's not part of the test cycle. This will be nice for real world numbers.
      • 3 Months Ago
      Maybe they should take a hint from every other automaker with decent hybrids and switch to electric Accessories so they can shut it down basically indefinitely. IMA is such an awful POS.
        • 3 Months Ago
        @noz

        Honestly I don't care what fanboys report. Every single test of the CRZ show mid 30 MPG not 40+.
        • 3 Months Ago
        I'll believe hundreds of real-world "fan-boys" (whatever that means - actual owners I guess in real life driving situations over thousands of miles???) than some idiot from a car magazine who's got the car loaned for a day and flogs the crap out of it and reports mileage is bad.

        As it happens, these real life fanboys are getting consistenly 40-50 MPG on daily drives. The mileages seem to drop below 40 MPG (36-39MPG) when they are hard on the accelerator.

        For a car that's being flogged, that's better than 99% of the cars out there...for all the criticism Honda gets for their hybrids, please name how many other cars get such good mileage overall when being pushed hard. One car....maybe 2???...
        Noz
        • 3 Months Ago
        The Civic, Insight, and CRZ all get mid-40MPG ranges constantly...and that's per the owners who OWN them.

        Nothing POS about that. So I don't know WTF you're talking about.
      • 3 Months Ago
      that made all the difference
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