• Oct 22nd 2010 at 11:30AM
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has announced that it's recalling a total of 470,000 vehicles in the U.S. due to the same failing master cylinder problem that caused Toyota to recall 1.66 million vehicles worldwide this week.

According to The Detroit News, the two automakers used the same supplier for the part, and when owners use a type of brake fluid other than what's used at the factory, a seal within the master cylinder may fail, causing a leak that could eventually lead to loss of braking power altogether. Honda says that a warning light would illuminate before this happened, however.

The Honda recall covers 2005-2007 Acura RL models and 2005-2007 Honda Odyssey minivans, while the Toyota recall includes the 2005-2006 Avalon and 2004-2006 Highlander (non-hybrid only), and 2006 Lexus GS, IS and RX cars and crossovers.

Honda says that at this point, it doesn't know how many of its vehicles have suffered a master cylinder failure nor how many have leaked. The company says it will replace the faulty seal and, if leaking has occurred, the brake booster will be replaced as well.
There's no set schedule for fixing those vehicles that are impacted by the recall, but owners should expect to hear something soon.

[Source: The Detroit News | Image: Stan Honda/AFP/Getty]

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    • 1 Second Ago
      • 4 Years Ago
      This is the year of recalls.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Who is the supplier?
        • 4 Years Ago
        China---who else!
      • 4 Years Ago
      Honda also recalled gas pedal in brazil.

      "Honda recalls nearly 127,000 compact cars in Brazil for gas pedal problem"

      But, still not recall in U.S and other world.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Can't really blame Toyota or Honda for this one. glad to see them doing what's right by the consumers.
        • 4 Years Ago
        The supplier builds the parts to the automakers specifications. Then whose to blame?
        It was popular to bash Ford and GM for recalls. Its the right thing to do if there is a problem. If Honda or Toyota has recalls its alright. Double standards.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Seems to me like more Japanese/foreign cars that are NOW being built in the US are being recalled a lot more. The parts are mostly made in the US and I think Canada. What do you all think?
      • 4 Years Ago
      Kudos to Honda and Toyota. Hardly any failures and they are recalling the cars. The Big 3 have tons more problems and they do nothing.

      Talk about superb quality and standing behind your product!
      • 4 Years Ago
      Japanese quality is no longer what it used to be.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I have horrible ownership stories of owning many Hondas. I loved the EGs, EKs, and AP1s and their bullet proof engine and transmissions. So I thought why not buy a minivan from Honda also? Big mistake, Transmission went out after a few years. At the same time I owned an Acura RSX with the annoying 3rd gear grind. Bought myself two 2001 Accords and both transmissions started to slip after a few years. My sister is driving a 2001 Honda Civic and the drive gear is slipping. We now have a 2004 Honda Accord and the driving dynamics are horrible. Bad brake response and jittery steering wheel. I prefer to drive my slammed out 96 240sx daily rather than that junk. My pre 2000 Honda Civic Ek with its super strong B-series engine is still holding strong. I have lost my faith in Honda.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Not True.

        In reliability I would still pick a Japanese car ( Lexus, Acura, Infiniti, over American and German )

        Yes automakers have been having a few issue for a few months now.. but that should not take away from their years upon years of good reliability and long term endurance. American has had over 30 n add years of issues with their autos... and the Germans and reliability aren't the best of friends.

        • 4 Years Ago
        Really? Has Toyota/Honda dropped below the likes of Chrysler, GM, VW, Hyundai, Kia, Ford, etc in terms of dependability stats? If so, give me a link.

        PS Initial Quality (3 month metric) means jack.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Glad I drive a Nissan...
        • 4 Years Ago
        or maybe hide recall?
      • 4 Years Ago
      Completely unacceptable for a brake system to require the use of anything but standard DOT brake fluids.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Actually, from what I understand Toyota said that if you're using the fluid spec'ed on the brake fluid cap this shouldn't happen. It might be that some aftermarket fluids don't really quite meet the standard. But apparently in Japan if your brake system has leaks it has to be recalled? I don't know if the brake fluid cap actually recommends Toyota/Honda fluid or what though, I don't own any of the affected vehicles.
        Anyways, it sounds like this was some sort of goof-up in testing somewhere, someone must have tested the seals only with the Toyota/Honda fluids and not with random aftermarket versions. I imagine that it's quite the nightmare to test these parts against every possible version of DOT3 brake fluid out there though.
      • 4 Years Ago
      More hints that Japanese companies are going cheap/shady with their parts these days :

      Anyone remember when a Toyota, Nissan, or Honda would go for a decade and beyond without any real faults? I miss those days.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I have a 2005 Accord an I have just noticed that it is having the exact same problem. But I noticed Honda only listed 2 models in the recall. Why? If they used the same parts as most often they do why would they not recall all the models with defective Master Cycilinders? Easy answer they don't want to replace no more than they have to due to costs incurred. Not the safety of the public!!!!!!!!
      • 4 Years Ago
      Thanks the 'made in Japan' quality.
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