• Sep 27, 2010
Spyker Cars has released an official statement confirming that it is in talks with BMW about future component sharing. The rumors surrounding this topic had initially suggested that BMW would lend Saab its Mini Countryman platform to underpin a smaller 9-2 model, but new reports indicate that the larger 9-3 could be the first to benefit from this partnership.

The next-generation Saab 9-3 is expected to launch in 2012. If the Spyker/BMW talks go well, the new 9-3 could be powered by an all-new Bimmer-sourced engine that produces around 220 horsepower, according to Bloomberg. BMW's EfficientDynamics technologies would naturally be used within this new powerplant, and according to the report, we shouldn't rule out the possibility of seeing this mill under the hood of the 9-5 flagship.

Of course, a teardrop-shaped Saab 9-2 is still on the table, with the automaker hoping to launch it by 2014 if it can find a partner. In addition to Countryman underworkings, Saab is reportedly hoping to use some of BMW's small-displacement diesel engines for use in the 9-2, as well. Follow the jump to read the official statement from Spyker after reviewing the Bloomberg report at the link below.

[Sources: Spyker Cars, Bloomberg]
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REACTION ON PRESS SPECULATION ABOUT BMW

Zeewolde, The Netherlands, 27 September 2010.

Spyker Cars N.V. ("the Group"), a holding company that owns subsidiaries which produce and sell premium automobiles under the Saab and Spyker brands, has noted recent press speculation about the possible supply relationship with BMW. The Group confirms that talks are ongoing and will give further details once a final agreement has been reached.


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      rnall48719
      • 4 Years Ago
      Saab will price itself out of the market trying to compete with BMW. Look at the MSRP's on the new 9-5's.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Way to go SAAB! this sounds like much better progress than say selling yourself out to the Chinese
        • 4 Years Ago
        Aye.... talk about a Teutonic triple-play: Dutch ownership, German engines, Swedish design and manufacturing.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Agreed, I can get a Swedish car with BMW power, or I can get a Swedish car owned by a company with car names like "Gleagle" and a safety rating worse than a golf cart...I kno which one I'll choose!
      • 4 Years Ago
      I smell BMW onwership in the near future....say 2015ish...
        • 4 Years Ago
        @jim

        I hope you are right, but I see them buying SAAB and turning it into a niche brand, potitioned right under the mothership, kind like they did with MINI.

        Perhaps a 9-3 about $3-5K cheaper than a 3, a 9-5 about $5-8K cheaper than a 5, etc...using many parts from the corporate bin...thus cutting down costs and making them sporty and affordable while keeping their swedish design heritage...(a la mini)

        Nothing wrong with BMW having 2-3 brands that sort-of compete with each other, just like VW/Audi/Porsche/Seat/Scoda.


        Kindl like
        • 4 Years Ago
        That thought crossed my mind also. But it doesn't make much sense as Saab's niche is really lower cost BMW's with FWD and better performance when the roads are covered with snow and ice.

        Assuming Spyker has success in building a profitable brand out of Saab, the logical buyers still are Asian companies.
      • 4 Years Ago
      bmw has plenty of engine development experience, but so does Saab and they have a
      engine foundry/plant of thier own, perhaps Saab will eventually produce the engine under a long term license in thier own plant in sweden, which would be the smart move.
      this move is hard unprecedented either for Saab, when they needed a engine for the then new larger Saab 99 they bought a British Triumph developed engine and made it thier own eventually, and it eventually morphed into the highly developed Saab H series
      engine.
      they previously also purchased ford of germany 1500cc and 1700cc V4 engines for the oldsaab 95/96 models.

      I like the use of the next generation Mini platform for the retro Saab 9-2, this allows to
      fine tune and tweak to thier very precise needs everything else on the car.
      This is a smart move, BMW also has been adversely affected by the worldwide downturn and aren't nearly as "bulletproof" as thier fans think, they need a wider base
      of production , specially for thier future front drive series 1 car.,
      presumably theres a implicit technology sharing deal where Saab engineers will chime
      in and help BMW here with front wheel drive.

      A new all in-house Pure SAAB next generation engine was always unlikely, too expensive for a smaller company and you need huge volumes to make such a venture
      pay off. But the thought was good.
      • 4 Years Ago
      The new 9-3 better be a hatch and look like a baseball cap or the engine will be irrelevant!

      Make a 9-3 that looks like a Saab should and I might get rid of my 9-5 Wagon.
      • 4 Years Ago
      You know, the GM-based turbo 4 in the 9-3 I sold last year was my favorite thing about the car. The rest of the car was ok, but lacked dynamic excellence or material quality.

      I'm assuming they'll use a BMW 4 cylinder, which could be pretty sweet with a turbo (return to M10 greatness?) but without a dynamic chassis that delivers the sweetness of the old 900s it won't be much of a coup.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Does it mean they'll go rear wheel drive too? Or they keep it front wheel drive and manage to get the straight sixes the other way?
        • 4 Years Ago
        Good point, maybe AWD?
        • 4 Years Ago
        Where does this say anything about an I6? The article is very specific is saying that this is a new engine. Given the need to increase efficiency it is quite likely a dual turbo I4. A much more Saab like power plant than a 6 anyway.
      • 4 Years Ago
      If GM had not bought Saab, they might not even have survived till today.
      • 4 Years Ago
      A BMW powered Saab? Hmmmm.

      Sounds much better than a GM powered Saab, that is for sure.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Dude, get real

        BMW engines > GM engines.

        Plain and simple.
      • 4 Years Ago
      hopefully no T9...
      • 4 Years Ago
      WalthamDan: very well said. I just hope they're giving that new American designer time to come up with something awesome. and that they'll have a decent interior/center stack. I love the look of the new 9-5, and will probably love the look of the 9-4x they're about to come out with, but those interiors simply can't justify the price. they're like GM rental car, except surprisingly out of place. high hopes for the new 9-3 though. and this is probably good news. developing an entirely brand new pure Saab engine isn't feasible right now.
        • 4 Years Ago
        re: interior

        The 2011 9-5 will be changing the material of the dash from a swath of plain plastic to a far superior textured material that was unavailable for the initial 2010 offering due to a supplier issue:

        http://www.cartype.com/pics/7490/full/saab_9-5_in2_10.jpg
        http://www.cartype.com/pics/7490/full/saab_9-5_in3_10.jpg
        • 4 Years Ago
        I mean, thats good, but it still looks like an Impala, especially the radio head unit. I was riding in a brand new Audi A4 with 3rd gen MMI and everything recently and the two are not even on the same level. Not saying this as a hater, I'm heavily rooting for Saab. and i know that Spyker was dealt a pretty crappy hand. I'm just saying I hope they know that modern looking interiors need to be a priority going forward.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Could work out well for both firms. Glad they are being pragmatic.
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