• Sep 24, 2010
The ongoing yarn about General Motors fielding a brace of rear-wheel drive flagship sedans based on a new generation Premium Zeta platform has hit the big time, with Motor Trend reporting that the platform will underpin a sport sedan for Chevrolet. Last month, the rejigged Zeta was touted as the basis for a flagship Buick that would finally, and properly, challenge Lexus. MT's report says there will be two wheelbases for this new Zeta, and that those two variants will do duty under a Cadillac, a U.S. Buick and potentially a Chinese-market Buick, and several Holden models along with the aforementioned Chevy.

As the basis for premium sedans, General Motors could spend the money to make it properly light and strong through the use of high-strength steels. The Chevy sport sedan mentioned would be "a kind of four-door Camaro" – Pontiac G8 GXP redux, anyone? – while the Buick only gets described as "cushier," and both would go on the shorter wheelbase Zeta.

The most interesting tidbit could be Cadillac's use of the long-wheelbase platform. MT prices a Cadillac flagship at between $125,000 and $140,000 and says the Zeta-based Cadillac, Whitacre's S-Class rival for the Crest-and-Wreath brand, will sit beneath it. If it all comes to pass, that would give Cadillac a larger CTS, then an XTS, then a properly sporting high-end luxury competitor, then a one-Caddy-to-rule-them-all ne plus ultra model by 2014 or so. Hat tip to Joshua!

[Source: Motor Trend]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      I'm sorry, did I hear a $125k-140k Caddy? *doubletake*
        • 4 Years Ago
        If Cadillac builds the XVI (Sixteen), or a car equally as stunning, believe me, people would jump at the chance at spending ONLY $140K. The XLR-V sold at $100K plus but was cancelled because Cadillac didn't give it enuff performance attributes to completely slay the comparable SL AMGs. Had they give the XLR-V the 556HP LSA and, Lord willing, the 638HP LS9, they would have had to run Bowling Green overtime to keep up with demand.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Heck yes!

      Please, GM. Take that Caprice, give it the styling treatment of the new LaCrosse, call it the Wildcat, and I'll trade my GS for it immediately!
      • 4 Years Ago
      GM should bring back the Chevelle as a sedan to compete with the Charger, and the Grand National as a high performance version of the new Regal.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I think the days of high-performance Buicks are behind us.
      • 4 Years Ago
      That would work.

      a new Chevy Caprice brings volume to cover basic platform development in SWB format.

      a new Park Avenue and Chinese-exclusive Park Avenue Ultra generate the actual profit from the platform

      the XTS interim solution splitting into a 5/7-fighting STS and super-7L Fleetwood Brougham personal limousine provide corporate halo placing Cadillac back as a legitmate contender for "standard of the world"
        • 4 Years Ago
        *to your earlier comment* Or maybe Obama's team had t make to choice in lieu of GM's bumbling management.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Given that Obama's team wasted our tax dollars to keep Chrysler going, I'm thinking the ineptness lies more with the Feds than GM.
      • 4 Years Ago
      As much as I support GM...

      By the time they decide what the f* theyre going to do this platform will likely be as outdated as the Ford Panther platform is today.

      The herd moves fast and doesn't like to be taunted.
      • 4 Years Ago
      CHEVELLE CHEVELLE CHEVELLE
      • 4 Years Ago
      This would be nice. However they need to ensure that the Buick flagship won't cannibalize sales from the Cadillac flagship.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I GUESS THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A REAL ENGINEER HEADING UP GM NORTH AMERICA. AND UNLIKE DERRICK KUZACK OR MARK FIELDS OVER AT FORD, MARK REUSS ACTUALLY HAS HIGH OCTANE FUEL RUNNING THROUGH HIS VEINS.
      I SUPPOSE THAT THE CAPRICE SS AND MALOO ARE A SURE THING AT THIS POINT. IF THOSE TWO HIT THE MARKET AS 2012s, THEY SHOULD GIVE MARK THE REQUIRED CASH AND CREDIBILITY IN THE MARKETPLACE TO FUND THE MORE AMBITIOUS STUFF AS WELL.
      IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE THE PIPELINE TO AUSTRALIA IS STARTING TO OPEN UP. I BETTER START CLEARING SPACE IN THE GARAGE RIGHT NOW.
      I JUST WISH I WAS A TRUST FUND BABY.
      FORD BETTER GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER. BECAUSE ONCE THE CAPRICE SS AND MALOO HIT, FORD SHOWROOMS ARE GOING TO BE A VERY LONELY PLACE.
      MAYBE WE'LL SEE THE SUPER PURSUIT HERE, AFTER ALL. UNLESS JIM FARLEY AND BIG AL WANT TO GET THEIR TAILS SERIOUSLY WHIPPED.
      $2.00 GASOLINE IS ON THE WAY. AND SO ARE LOWER TAXES.
      IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE WE HAVE MORE HIGH OCTANE FUEL IN THE MARKET THAN WE KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH. AMERICA IS ABOUT TO BOUNCE BACK.
      ALL OF THE SIGNS ARE THERE. ALL YOU NEED TO DO, IS OPEN YOUR EYES.
      AND MY MK-1 EYEBALLS ARE FOCUSED SQUARELY ON THE ROAD. IT'S TIME TO ROCK. I WANT A SMOKIN HOT R8 MALOO IN MY GARAGE BY JUNE OF NEXT YEAR. AND IT'S BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE IT'S VERY DOABLE. A BLACK ONE WITH A HARD TONNEAU AND WHITE STRIPING WOULD FILL THAT NICHE VERY NICELY. I CAN HARDLY WAIT.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Dude...is your caps lock broken or something? My eyes just got assaulted.
      • 4 Years Ago
      NO ONE is going to buy a $100,000+ Cadillac. It isn't going to happen.

      That would be a silly waste of resources and R&D money.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @steve2112

        Amen, that takes years.

        i think the americans, need to slow down and make a homebuild 'happy reving' fuel efficient 3.8 / 4.0 / 4.2 v8 dohc standart awd with german equal power.
        they also need a atleast a good sporty 3.0 Diesel engine.
        .... that is .... if you care about european buyer and eventually compete.
        just an entousiast for .... would buy a pushrod engine, they are pretty uncommon here.
        europeans get emotions from rpm's, even if it's a TDI.

        it's easy to compare with cars that have atleast 50hp less.
        they have been doing that for 30 years? and did it sell?
        nope it didn't appart from the earlier mentioned 'entousiast'

        if the chevy Tahoe was a litle bit more european sized vihilce and engined, i'm sure it would have been a different seller, simular to the size of the Nissan terrano (beautiful name and car, atleast the 1th).

        it doesn't have to have a new name, i think if you change names that much, you know there is something wrong.

        the interior on the golf 2 was horrible cheap, even in that time i dind't like it, but hell of a racer.
        the Golf 3 was twice as good.
        the golf 4 rocked
        if you look @ them, they still apear the same, somewhat.

        just to mention: the golf is presented to a bunch of 'regular' people prior to any public .... and they give an opinion about if it resembles a golf or not, the 5.5 was redesigned due a negativ ....

        like mercedes, the handles on steering column, intrument panel, etc, etc always looks close the previous iteration, but each time a a litle better.

        a car needs to be recognizable evulution from the previous.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Hell, a couple of idiots bought $80+K volkswagens (Phaeton). Only badge whores prejudge without seeing the product.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I actually agree with this. The XLR-V is a good example. Modern luxury car buyers who are likely to pay $100k for a car just don't see the Cadillac brand as worth it. And brand perception will kill sales of a Caddy that expensive. Thanks to poor management in the past, Caddy hasn't been "The Standard of the World" in a long time.

        Don't get me wrong. I like the CTS and I think the CTS-V is an amazing car. But most reviews I have read on the CTS/V have commented that its interior isn't as good as the likes of Mercedes or Audi. And many people who buy $100k cars care more about the interior than which wheels are driven or what's under the hood.

        I also have a fear of the accountants once again taking over at GM. We have heard things like this before, yet they never seem to materialize.
        • 4 Years Ago
        tell that to all the people that paid $100k + for a mercedes S class. people buy $100k cars a lot more often than you think.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @ Orincarnia

        I know people buy 100K+ vehicles. I wasn't arguing an S Class or a 7 Series, I was saying a Cadillac.
        The XLR-V was $2,000 shy of $100,000 and they didn't sell many of those at all. Mercedes sold FAR more AMG-ified SLs for more money.

        What I was trying to say, even the wealthy public wouldn't buy a $140,000 Cadillac in enough numbers to justify its R&D costs.

        It would be a waste of time and money for GM. Time and money that would be far better spent on other vehicles.

      • 4 Years Ago
      A $120,000 to $140,000 Cadillac would be a colossal sales flop.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Agreed and I think Motor Trend is being sensational with those numbers.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Another case of "old GM". Too little, too late.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Current Holdens and the cars based on them (like the Camaro) already use that steel in their construction. In fact the Camaro has a mostly aluminum suspension instead of steel.

      I like the idea of a proper Buick and Cadillac flagship, but can't help but think we'd have them by now (since Lutz came up with this plan back in 2005/06) if GM didn't have such an on-again, off-again product planning.

      Our fleets are getting the Caprice, there's no reason it shouldn't be sold to civilians either. It's also sold as the Buick Park Avenue in China too. I also don't see any reason Buick couldn't be selling it in the US.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Tri-Shield: GM would have to completely re-work the Park Avenue to sell it here. Reference the Cruze. Notice that they didn't slap a bowtie on the Daewoo and roll it onto the showroom floors, spent the last year and a half reworking it. Same goes for the Regal, it was also re-worked for the US market.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I'm sure if Lutz could have, he would have.

        For all we know, GM was all set to go forward, and then Obama's team killed it in favor of the Volt.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Dr G: don't worry, about me, worry about yourself. After all, you're proving to be a prime example of an idiot who's demonstrating himself to have been stupid all his life.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Greenthumb, the Chinese Park Avenue is a Holden Caprice with a plusher interior which is being sold here to fleets as the Chevrolet Caprice. No big changes needed for the US.
        • 4 Years Ago
        You paranoid, Big Brother-fearing retards are ridiculous.

        Give it a rest.
        • 4 Years Ago
        My point John H: The Obama team killed a more practical useful family (sporty) hauler, and let the ZR1 and the CTS-V exist.

        Don't be stupid all of your life.
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