• Sep 18, 2010
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Mercedes-Benz is getting hot and heavy into hybrids, and parent company Daimler AG might be looking to a familiar name for help. Reports out of Tokyo indicate that Daimler is in talks with Toyota about getting "motors and batteries in addition to technology" to supply its hybrid needs.

The discussions have gone on for a year now, and have come to the point of detailing exactly which components Toyota will supply. Apparently, the pact could also include fuel cell technology sharing. Assuming a deal gets made, Daimler will join Ford, Nissan and Mazda on the list of Toyota partners when it comes to some aspect of hybrid tech. And if that isn't what you call "hybrid synergy drive," we don't know what is.



[Source: AFP]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      You can't really say that Ford is on the Toyota bandwagon, can you?
      • 4 Years Ago
      What a sad company Diamler is! They screwed Chrysler now they need a new tit to suck on.
      I`d buy a BMW over Mercedes anyday.
      If Mercedes was the techical wonder everybody thinks it is, why does Toyota have to wet nurse them?
      • 4 Years Ago
      I foresaw that Toyota would be moving in this direction years ago... they have taken their leadership role in hybrids and turned it into a profit-center by starting to supply other players in the industry with their components/know-how.

      While the rest of the industry was napping away or burying their heads in the sand thinking that hybrids would just go away, Toyota's foresight over a decade ago is paying off both in their own cars, and what looks like now to be supplying with other car makers product and/or knowledge.

      While there are few Toyotas right now that interest me for myself as a car enthusiast (except for possibly the upcoming FT86), I applaud them for their devotion to engineering and their long-term approach.

      This is the type of long-term thinking that Detroit, and the rest of the US, have been lacking. We have been so focused on quarterly profits and hitting weekly sales targets that too many companies in the US have completely lost all focus on the big picture... one of those key areas is energy efficiency and green technology. This is an area where other countries are now eating our lunch, and we have to import wind turbines from Spain and solar panels from China, instead of taking the lead and making those products here at home.

      • 4 Years Ago
      Toyota now supplies hybrid technology to Ford, Mazda, Nissan and Daimler ... GM supplies hybrid technology to ... mmm !!

      What more is there to say ?
        • 4 Years Ago
        Saying that Toyota supplies Ford with their hybrid tech, or that Ford is on the Toyota bandwagon is frankly wrong.

        Ford has it's own hybrid system developed in house, this is why the Ford Fusion hybrid has more net HP 191 vs 187 (small difference I know) can travel at a higher speed under full electric power of 47 mph, and better fuel economy of 41/36 vs 33/34 according to fueleconomy.gov

        Having said that Ford does have a cross patent licencing agreement with Toyota because the system they developed would have infringed on patents Toyota already had in place by the time the Ford system was developed. That in no way makes Ford's system a Toyota hybrid system.
      • 4 Years Ago
      curious what TMC wants to supply, Toyota's batteries are Panasonic, electrical machines and power electronics are not specific to Hybrid application in the first place. The only things would be battery management and overall Hybrid control strategy, both of them are software and very application dependent.
        • 4 Years Ago
        what patent? NiHM battery chemistry is not new, plus industry is moving towards Li chemistry already(MB S400H)
      • 4 Years Ago
      I'm sure this partnership will be a runaway success.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Daimler already has their own reliability problems without Toyota. And you apparently missed the sarcasm in the first post about the new partnership considering
        Daimler's past "partnership" with Chrysler.
        • 4 Years Ago
        "Assuming a deal gets made, Daimler will join Ford, Nissan and Mazda on the Toyota bandwagon..."

        Toyota is one hybrid...mega-nopoly.
        • 4 Years Ago
        funny : )

        but it's pathetic that the once almight Mercedes who used to lead in tech developments now can't do anything on their own. relay on Tesla for electric cars and Toyota for dead end hybrids.
        pathetic
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Kotse

        Almost but not quite. Not even Autoblog is jumping into the misrepresentations on Hybrids. Ford does not use Toyota's system. They have their own system. Ford and Toyota simply realized that they were going to step on each other's patents. Also Toyota owns the company that makes the best CVT transmissions for Hybrid use so they made a deal.

        Nissan is simply tossing Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive system into their vehicles. A completely different situation.
        • 4 Years Ago
        that is funny, runaway and Toyota in the same breath. I guess Daimler feels it will be OK to line itself up with a car company with server reliability problems......aka Toyota . I hope this will not result in lower resell values on Daimler with inferior Toyota parts in their cars..... i can bet a lot of Germans will not like having inferior parts in their cars.. Daimler is a gambler i see
      Carpenter
      • 4 Years Ago
      Sounds like a hybrid orgy to me..question is, is Toyota doing the banging or are they getting banged?
      • 4 Years Ago
      What no "Superior German engineering".
      Word of warning: Toyota don't be bending over in the shower when your new found Daimler buddy is in the room.
      • 4 Years Ago
      By the way Ford is not on the Toyota bandwagon!
      Everyones perception is except mine and few others.
      • 4 Years Ago
      So now Lexus and Mercedes cars will have similar hybrid technology.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Great I used to look out for Toyotas in my rearview now I'm going to have to look out for Hybrid Benz's as well
        • 4 Years Ago
        no no, it's Toyota and Benz owners that need looking out through their forward windows of pos Bimmers since they're liable to spontaneously breakdown infront of you.
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