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That's what the crew at Car Guide would have us all believe. According to the website, Toyota is looking to hedge its bets by producing a second model on the same platform as the upcoming FT-86. As the theory goes, If the two-door doesn't find the kind of favor the company is hoping for, it will at least have a four-door version to pick up a few sales. The site points to a shadowy Toyota executive as the source of the information, and it's even worked up a rendering to show the world exactly what the sports sedan could look like.
That all sounds reasonable and all, but we're still having a hard time swallowing this one. Toyota isn't exactly the kind of company to take huge manufacturing risks. With the development costs of the FT-86 shared with partner Subaru, Toyota would be looking at shoving quite a bit of extra money toward coming up with a proprietary four-door variant of the car. We just don't see that happening, even if we do like the idea of a more affordable rear-wheel drive Japanese four-door. Head over to Car Guide to have a look at the full rendering.

[Source: Car Guide]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      Worst. Photoshop. Ever.
      • 4 Years Ago
      This would make a great Lexus product. Something under the IS or even in place of the IS. Coupe for toyota or scion, AWD oddity for Subie and entry level 1 series/3 series beater for Lexus....
      • 4 Years Ago
      The ft86 is to toyota what gran turismo5 is to sony.
      Ya the ft86 will get here, but when is anyone's guess.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I said it before and I'll say it again:

      Toyota: Try getting the damn FT-86 to production first before you start mucking with variants of it.
        • 4 Years Ago
        thats the whole point, build a pure sportscar before it can get compromised by the 4 door/convertible models
        • 4 Years Ago
        You clearly know nothing about manufacturing.
        if there are variants to be made, they have to be designed into the platform now before the coupe comes out.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I don't think a 4 door runs counter to the FT-86 vision, actually.

        This car is potentially shaping up to be a 21st century rendition of the classic BMW 2002; lighweight, RWD, handling-oriented, and (relatively) inexpensive. If they get it right, we're looking at the birth of a new 3-Series competitor, not in price so much as mission.

        I think a 4 door fits fine with that, with the caveat that the coupe shouldn't share any sheetmetal with the sedan.
        • 4 Years Ago
        FT-86 FOREVER
        • 4 Years Ago
        It takes years and years to bring a car to market so you can't just wait until it gets to market before working on variants unless you want your sedan to be an insanely outdated 2018 model.
        Also, that "render" looks like the worst photoshop ever, what kinda hack did they hire to clone the front door? They didn't even bother to align the reflections.
      • 4 Years Ago
      By the time this thing hits the market it's going to be in the mid-$20,000 range as a two-door. If they could've kept the price under 20 grand they'd have a hit on their hands--but they won't. Feature-creep and the Toyota tax will push the price up into a much more competitve segment. A moderately-optioned example could flirt with 30 grand, and at that price you're in Mustang GT territory. And the Mustang is out NOW.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Im sorry. .

        When was the Mustang ever a four door?
      • 4 Years Ago
      dammit. beat me to the punch.
        • 4 Years Ago
        haha - was thinking to myself, "He'll what??"
        • 4 Years Ago
        Thats ok I will still thumb up you :)
      • 4 Years Ago
      I could potentially see the FT and its variants being a turning point for Toyota. If they can regain some excitement in their products, they are going to put a smack down on other car makers.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Agreed, if they ever get the dang thing to production. What's it been, 3 years since we heard about it?
        • 4 Years Ago
        >>"They are going to have to put more than a camry motor in a RWD platform if they want to change their image"

        Dont say that too loud. The Lotus Evora might get offended!
        • 4 Years Ago
        yeah sounds good, just call 'em the celica and corolla respectively... well, can't do that (it'd scare the you know what out of corolla owners) but it'd be a good start.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I don't get it.

        The New Celica becomes a four-door "coupe"? Is that the plan?
        • 4 Years Ago
        @ Bobmarley

        They already said its going to be a Subaru motor
        • 4 Years Ago
        this thing is going to have some brutal competition if its priced around $30k. Even in the low 20's. All of the suden we have the gencoupe, 2011 mustang, 370z and camaro.

        They are going to have to put more than a camry motor in a RWD platform if they want to change their image
      • 4 Years Ago
      ok, ok, ok... just get this thing to the dealerships. You don't need to make it like the R8, it doesn't need rear doors. It's a 2+2 rwd sports car. If done simply and correctly it will more then make up for any R&D and engineering costs.

      Stop mucking up your savior vehicle.
      Carpenter
      • 4 Years Ago
      I find this hard to believe. Wouldn't the sedan compete with the camry?
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Carpenter
        @Purplewon

        You know what, I was thinking about that the other day. Why is it that in order to get a performance-oriented car from Toyota, you have to look to Lexus? I would think sporty and cheap would go together better than sporty and luxurious. Maybe it's a have your cake and eat it too type of thing...

        At any rate, I think there would still be a market for the IS250. After all, there is still a market for the ES and that's basically a spiffed-up Camry. I think this 4-door would appeal to a different market, as not everyone can afford the ~35k price tag on the IS.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Carpenter
        Not if it's marketed as sporty...grandma's can have their camry's, middle aged guys with kids can tool around in an FR-S 4-door.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Carpenter
        More likely it would render the IS250 unnecessary.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I'll believe it when I see it. However, while I'm interested in the FT-86 coupe, I'd never buy one because it's a 2-door. Should they make a 4d sedan, then a purchase becomes terribly tempting. I'm thinking modern E30.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Funny, I would not buy the 4dr FT86. Different strokes I guess.
      • 4 Years Ago
      YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSS
      • 4 Years Ago
      CarsGuide generally doesn't break much news on international stuff... so this intrigues me greatly. And I'm even a News Ltd (the publisher) employee! Having said that, Toyota Australia's Facebook profile picture was an FT-86 for a while, so something tells me that Australia must be a key market considered for this vehicle, and they must be talking to our execs about it heavily.

      This news doesn't surprise me much though, to be perfectly honest. The Altezza was very popular in Japan, with its own racing league and everything. Honestly, I would be surprised either if the chassis and drivetrain for this was dragged over to the Lexus IS range, but with different body work, more gadgets and a far more premium interior. The IS range is due for an overhaul...

      Kind of makes this project justifiable if they do that too. One chassis and drivetrain to make a car for Toyota, Subaru and Lexus, all in one go. They save dollars and sell more units, and the world gets some beautiful and capable cult sports cars with huge aftermarket potential... everyone wins!
        • 4 Years Ago
        i think the idea in sharing it with IS is not good as we talk about COROLLA size not even AVENSIS size

        what am thinking about is
        the 2 doors 'll be CELICA
        the 4 doors 'll be COROLLA
        with hatchback 5 & 3 doors variant
        with small SUV i think may be the RAV-4
        and a station wagon

        +

        the chassis already LEGACY chassis
        which we can see it in the NG2012 CAMRY
        and may be with a new SOLARA coupe/cabriolet
        and with the NG-HIGHLANDER & VENZA as SUV and sportcross

        so typically toyota can change all the game with a great cards if it want that
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