• Aug 7, 2010

Range Rover Evoque – Click above to enlarge

According to Autocar, Land Rover isn't done expanding its Range Rover model lineup now that the Evoque has made its official debut. Citing so-called "well-placed sources," the UK mag suggests that LR is surprised by the overwhelmingly positive reaction to the new entry-level Range Rover - enough that it's now considering another model to slot in below the Range Rover Sport.

The report goes on to suggest that development of the proposed machine has barely begun and there's no clear indication of what exactly is in store, though a seven-passenger "lifestyle" (whatever that means...) vehicle has been hinted at. It's thought that the Range Rover Sport may be moved slightly upmarket from its current £46,000 (just over $60,000 U.S.) starting price to make room for this theoretical new model. In any case, considering that the Evoque is still quite a way off, we don't expect to see this new rumor fulfilled any time soon.

[Source: Autocar]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      Just gtfo.
      • 4 Years Ago
      For many years in the UK, the Land Rover Discovery -- or Disco-- was consistently ranked as the most unreliable vehicle sold in the UK.

      The folks who I personally know, who own Land Rovers of many flavors, almost to a person confess these are not reliable vehicles.

      That they have a certain cachet is undeniable, but from my perspective, they are pure crap and I have trouble imaging new ownership is going to fix that any time soon.

      Attractive product with a seriously lousy reliability history.

      Cue: Born Free and personal anecdotes about LRs with 1,000,000 trouble-free miles on them.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Bloke: "...but car enthusiasts don't tend to read What Car?"

        That's a good thing, right?
        They don't like to read Consumer Reports also, both these publications have massive amounts of long-term real-world repair and ownership data.

        Land Rover was doomed once the Land Cruiser went upscale. LR didn't move out of its market niche, allowing Toyota to dominate much of the developing world's need for 4x4s. The Germans addressed the luxury-end in the 90s and the rest is history.

        Most probably Tata is going to move LR production to China or India and hopefully there will be a under $30k model that competes against the new Cherokee / 4Runner / Touareg.

        LRs survivability is coupled with its reliability and afford-ability.




        • 4 Years Ago
        "Most probably Tata is going to move LR production to China or India and hopefully there will be a under $30k model that competes against the new Cherokee / 4Runner / Touareg."

        I can see you're a hater of the LR marque, I do believe you're actually quite desperate. As LR's holding company, that kind of decision would first have to get by LR's board of directors, not to mention unions and more than likely, the British government. But Tata knows that people who buy LR products do so because they're uniquely British - and shifting production to India or China in its entirety would be a suicidal move. That said, Chinese production for the Chinese market would make a good deal of sense. With both the Evoque and some versions of the facelifted 2011 Freelander adopting front-wheel drive, LR is spreading its marketing base and price points, just as the German Q-marques have done in the past twenty years.

        LR have been riding high on the recovery of the car industry. In 2009, Disco sales wre up 112% in the prior year, with the Defender up 25%, Freelander up 55%, and Range Rover up 40% and the RR Sport up by some 200% over the same period. On average, this was a total sales increase of 90% when the overall UK car market was up by 30%.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Whatsmore, if you are the sort of person who resorts to reading What Car, you'll find that perhaps one of their highlights of the year is to publish the UK JD Powers survey.

        http://www.whatcar.com/NonCar/361010339480.jpg

        http://www.whatcar.com/NonCar/361010340442.jpg
        • 4 Years Ago
        iApache ... I'n not sure where you're from, but car enthusiasts don't tend to read What Car? It's essentially a consumer's mag but geared towards cars.

        No Land Rover will give you the same level of reliability as a Land Cruiser, but that doesn't mean they're going to break down in the midst of a peat bog. The Discos to avoid are the V8s - especially early 3.5's - and the base 4-pots. The diesels were by far the most popular and the 200 and 300 series diesels will easily achieve 250-350K miles as long as they're properly serviced. Discos are prone to heavy depreciation like most LRs - mainly because there are no cheap aftermarket parts, you have to get genuine LR parts and they're pricey.

        The Disco was/is as popular in the UK as the Chevrolet Blazer is in the States - in both cases, you're not looking at adamantine Japanese reliability, but you're looking at a decent, well-priced load hauler that - if properly looked after - will easily last you the average stewardship you're looking for.

        I understand there are plenty of LR haters on these boards, and that's absolutely fine. But I'm curious as to how many have lived in the UK in the real world of Disco ownership.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Bloke: "I don't recall that whatsoever. The most unreliable vehicle sold in the UK for a good few years was the Nissan Serena,....."

        What? really What? no I mean "What Car?" just released its 2010 Reliability ratings and check out this statement: "LAND ROVER 32nd out of 32 - Land Rover appears doomed to remain last in our survey, having been bottom for the past eight years."

        http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/what-car-reliability-survey-2010/land-rover---renault/250839

        "The Disco was never a Toyota-appliance reliable beast, but it was a huge seller..."
        Yes, yes indeed, if it's one vehicle that I wouldn't want to be a "reliable beast" it would be my go any where, any time, critical use off-road vehicle...

        • 4 Years Ago
        I don't recall that whatsoever. The most unreliable vehicle sold in the UK for a good few years was the Nissan Serena, and Fiat and Renault both had a number of notorious products in the early 90s too.

        The Disco was never a Toyota-appliance reliable beast, but it was a huge seller, especially in turbodiesel and later, direct-injection turbodiesel guises which weren't particularly problematic to own. Probably the worst versions to have were the very early 3.5 litre V8 models, but the V8s were never that popular in any case despite a stream of revisions.
        • 4 Years Ago
        That's a fair point. They are not tremendously reliable, particularly in their first 12-18 months. It seems that every Land Rover owner has stories to tell.

        Having said that, I buy them again and again because I love them. Sure the reliability could - and should - be better, but you have to balance that out with the pleasure you get from them. If you're not into that equation, then you should buy a vehicle that's a soulless rolling "appliance".

        Minor inconveniences are a small price to pay for driving something you really like.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Ah, another high beltline, low rooftop CUV. Blah.
      • 4 Years Ago
      They seem to be expanding too fast.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I'm really not liking how land rover is now developing a whole bunch of range rover variants. idk it just seems like they are dilluting the range rover name just for more money... Which is probably their intention :/. It's like rolls royce making a phantom wagon, midsize sedan and compact sedan without them really even looking like a phantom in the first place. And this is coming from somebody who absolutely LOVES Land Rover.
        • 4 Years Ago
        agreed. I just bought a 2010 range rover hse last month and I love it. range rovers are classics that carry a prestige with its name. the range rover sport was pushing it, but still somewhat acceptable. the evoque is a cool car, but should have been branded a Land Rover, but of course calling it a range rover will sell more cars.

        plus, if they add a 4th model, how would it be any different form the current LR3. I mean there are only so many styles of SUVs you can make.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Also agreed. And also from someone that loves their Land Rover and has the Evoque on their wish list.

        Range Rover is iconic. It stands for what it is - a specific blend of form and function. They need to stand by that, otherwise they'll confuse people even more about what a Range Rover is vs. Land Rover (the company).

        So, the Evoque should be Land Rover branded and, while they're at it, they should end the ridiculousness of the "LR" moniker. It wasn't necessary to drop the "Discovery" name for LR3 in the USA, and it's pretty ridiculous that the updated version is called the LR4 here. That's like BMW updating the 3 Series and calling it the 4 Series. Very quickly you run out of numbers and it gets very confusing for regular consumers that aren't car people.

        That aside, Land Rover are full of win. Nice to see Tata is just letting them do what they do best.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Autoblog, *Estoque* is a Lamborghini... *Evoque* is the Range Rover lol

      I get confused too
      • 4 Years Ago
      I love it.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I believe you mean now that Land Rover has launched the Evoque. The Estoque is a Lamborghini :).
      • 4 Years Ago
      I gotto say the design is looking good.
      • 4 Years Ago
      sigh, I wish the evoque had made its official debut. only can hope.
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