• Jul 3rd 2010 at 6:09PM
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Delays are expected as any small start-up company tries to play with the big boys of the automotive world, but Fisker has been fraught with delay after delay, leaving many wondering if the Karma is nothing but vaporware. Now, another report coming from the guys over at Green Car Advisor further adds to the belief that the Karma may never see the light of day, at least for a while. The GCA team was on hand for the grand opening of Fisker's dealership in Santa Monica and had a chance to speak with Michael Sullivan, owner of the LA Car Guy dealership group that will be responsible for selling Fisker vehicles in the Los Angeles area.

Since Sullivan will eventually sell the Fisker Karma, he's probably a knowledgeable source for information about the vehicle's release date. As Sullivan told GCA, deliveries of the Karma won't begin until March or April of next year. If true, this would indicate yet another delay as the company had previously suggested that, while some vehicles (70-100) would be delivered later this year, full production was supposed to start in February 2011. GCA contacted Fisker for its official stance on the Karma release and the company stated that it still plans to have a hundred or so vehicles in customers hands before year's end, with full-scale production kicking off early next year. Which side speaks the truth? It's hard to say, but Fisker hasn't necessarily been on target with its statements in the past, so we'll have to side with LA Car Guy for now.

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      • 5 Years Ago
      Not practicing vaporware very well since they just closed the deal on acquiring the former GM factory for production on the Nina. Also I did not see any crane when the car was on the track for a photo op awhile back. Fisker will be in a nice position like the Volt in that as battery tech improves they can use a smaller and smaller range extender and who knows maybe eventually drop it entirely. Especially interesting in light of the reports that Nissan may be looking at an EV with a range extender.
      • 5 Years Ago
      This could simply a case of a dealer being a dealer and knowing as little as possible. I went to one of the tour stops of the Fisker Karma recently and the dealer knew less about the car than I did!

      • 5 Years Ago
      We've been through this before with the Tesla Roadster: critics saying that the delays means failure. Fisker has the cash to complete this project and at this point, there's no turning back.

      Take you time Fisker. Better be late and ready than on time and buggy.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I agree that you do not want to rush your product, but if there continue to be delays will Fisker Automotive deliver too little too late?
      • 5 Years Ago
      So, what about that countdown timer they put up a few days ago ( http://green.autoblog.com/2010/06/30/fisker-begins-countdown-timer-for-the-unveiling-of/ ). The countdown ended yesterday. So, autobloggreen, any news on the unveiling?
      • 5 Years Ago
      could it not simply be that the first are sold and doesn't need to be sold in stores until april..
      this article seems a tad fickle. not good journalism
        • 5 Years Ago
        Couldn't agree more James.

        I love how the title says "one more for the record" and "probably" in the same sentence. Its all downhill from there.
        • 5 Years Ago
        nah I don't find that. the posts that have disappointed me most was from Sam. especially when he refused to correct his massive mistakes. particularly the 5-1200$ battery cost when everyone who buys batteries know they cost 3-400.
        ABG could certainly need some improvement overall but I don't think it's all Eric's fault
        • 5 Years Ago
        another nonsense post by eric. I don't mean to be cruel, but ABG can you please drop him? he's terrible. He's consistently off the mark, whenever I read a post and begin to roll my eyes I know I can look up and see his name atop it.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Still waiting for more updates on this topic.I hope it will come out sooner.
      -Salvage Car
      • 5 Years Ago
      Karma's a bitch.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Could they be in need of help of an established manufacturing partner to get off
      the ground?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Al Gore's very own Fisker phony car company, has delayed once again. Meanwhile it/he has gotten half a billion from the Obama True Believers and is preparing to head off into the sunset, with the boodle, having dumped Tipper first.

      Will it turn out that the Fisker single model showed at all the photo opps and pressers, was never a real car and was incapable of being moved, except by crane?

      Al Baby learned in the Tele-Evangelism college he attended, "There's a Sucker born every minute, and he came to take them".
        • 5 Years Ago
        Mr. Peterson's IQ drops about 30 points whenever he sees a connection with Al Gore. Since "Fisker's top investors include Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, a veteran Silicon Valley venture-capital firm of which Gore is a partner", we're going to suffer his invective on every Fisker post.

        As I've patiently explained several times: If you bothered to read the Fisker ATVM loan agreement ( http://www.atvmloan.energy.gov/keydocs/fiskerconditionalcom.pdf ) instead of spouting crap, you'd read this:

        "the proceeds of the Advance will be used solely to reimburse Fisker for applicable Eligible Project Costs paid by Fisker on or before the date of such Advance request" (Section 10, page 18.)

        That makes it tough to "head off into the sunset, with the boodle". But it's hopeless, once the patent Al Gore red mist descends, reason goes out the window.
        • 5 Years Ago
        "Al Gore's very own Fisker phony car company, has delayed once again. Meanwhile it/he has gotten half a billion from the Obama True Believers and is preparing to head off into the sunset, with the boodle, having dumped Tipper first. "

        Riiiiiiiiiight, did you just copy and paste this nonsense from the Glenn Beck show?

        1) Fisker does not belong to Al Gore
        2) Fisker did not receive money from the govt, only loan guarantees.

        But no matter what the arguments are, people like you will find ways to turn it upside down and spin it until it fits the image of their hallucinations.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Sorry to bust your bubble, but Al Gore's investment company is THE prinicpal Stockholder in Fisker. So although Al Gore doesn't own it lock stock and barrel, he does own Fisker...
        • 5 Years Ago

        You implied that Al Gore was in it to steal money from us gullible tax-payers by taking the government loans and riding off into the sunset. This is highly misleading, how do you expect people to respond to that?

        I give Al Gore a lot of credit for putting his money where his mouth is, and making a very risky move (investing in a start up that makes cars!) even though chances of profit are slim. He does not and can not "take the money and run" like you imply.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Even if it is true what has that got to do with anything? What innovation have your big oil GOP friends produced in the last ten years?

        Damn I am feeding the troll.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Why do you think these statements don't fit together?

      It is a relatively low production volume car and it is relatively complex, so you can assume the production line will have quite a number of stations and run on a low speed.
      Under these conditions it may take well a few days until a car has passed through the complete line especialy if you ramp up the production slowly.

      So, starting the prodution line in February and geting the public into the cars in March/April is nothing unusual.
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