• 30
2011 Volkswagen Jetta – Click above for high-res image gallery

Reconfirming what we already knew, Volkswagen product strategist Toscan Bennet announced that a hybrid version of the sixth-generation Jetta is definitely on the way and on schedule for a 2012 launch date. Bennet said:
VW as a brand takes the electrification of the automobile very seriously, and we have a longtime strategy for growing that business. The Jetta hybrid is our first entry in that strategy.
During the NYC debut of the new Jetta, Bennet made it clear that the company is shooting for "best-in-class" mileage ratings for the hybrid version of its new sedan. VW doesn't mean Prius-like numbers here, but beating the Honda Civic Hybrid sounds about right. VW admits that the Prius defines classes and resides alone as the hybrid mileage champ. Rather than aspire to the Prius numbers of 51 miles per gallon city and 48 mpg highway, VW is more conservatively shooting to surpass the marks of 40 mpg city and 45 mpg highway set by the hybrid Civic. Combine the high mileage targets with price cuts found throughout the new Jetta lineup and VW may have a hybrid hit on its hands soon.



[Source: New York Times]


I'm reporting this comment as:

Reported comments and users are reviewed by Autoblog staff 24 hours a day, seven days a week to determine whether they violate Community Guideline. Accounts are penalized for Community Guidelines violations and serious or repeated violations can lead to account termination.


    • 1 Second Ago
  • 30 Comments
      • 4 Years Ago
      I'm really interested to see the pricing break down for the new jetta with different options.
      Specifically, I am interested to see what the price of the TDI is going to be now.

      I don't think they should be too shy about pushing the engineering to get at those prius mpg numbers. That's no static target. Toyota will be looking to improve those in the next round.
      • 4 Years Ago
      That was a good laugh.

      I read the headline and wondered what class the car would be in, certainly not the same class as the Prius. Then I read further and find that for their "best-in-class" boast they will simply ignore the best in class Prius...

      Every car is a class of one and everyone is a class leader?



        • 4 Years Ago
        "I read the headline and wondered what class the car would be in"

        Sports sedan class? Maybe?

        I am sure Prius is best in its class.... by the way, what class is the Prius in? Taxi class?
        • 4 Years Ago
        Prius is a mid-size sedan.

        Jetta is a compact.

        You figure it out from there.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Jetta is growing 3 inches (most of it in the passenger area) so they are likely going to be in the same class.

      • 4 Years Ago
      Just buy the TDI. It'll probably be a little more exciting to drive.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Their definition of fun is smoking tires. That marketing failed because it is hard to associate smoke, Diesel and green together.
        danwat1234
        • 2 Years Ago
        Yeah and the hybrid will require premium gas like the Tiguan Hybrid. Pshh
      • 4 Years Ago
      Obviously, it will have to do better in the fuel department than the TDI version, or will we lose that option?

      VW invented the ecoboost concept, but we still do not get one of those 1400 cc, 160 hp engines with the almost diesel fuel economy. VW has really pared down the available engines in the US. Times are hard. Is the Polo really coming?
      clipsinite
      • 4 Years Ago
      The hybrid will be half-assed. German (car maker)s hate hybrids.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @clipsinite
        I hate washing the dishes.
        That doesn't mean I do a half-assed job of it.

        • 4 Years Ago
        @clipsinite
        Yea "best in class" probably means best hybrid that is not a hatchback(toyota prius, chevy volt, nissan leaf) so it might beat the ford fusion hybrid, toyota camery hybrid, honda civic hybrid as long as those vehicles are not improved in the next 2 years...
          danwat1234
          • 2 Years Ago
          The 2013 Fusion Hybrid is 47MPG city, 44 HWY which beats the 2012 Camry Hybrid (Toyota pwned). VW might be able to match it. If VW used the Plo Bluemotion 1.2L Diesel in a Hybrid application in the USA they would be the best out there.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @clipsinite
        Considering that the Jetta fits into the Compact class, my guess is that they are not considering the Camry, Prius, and Fusion hybrids since none of those are compacts(hence the "best in class" description).

        The Civic is really the only compact hybrid out right now in the US. People like to call the Prius a compact, but its interior space put in it the mid-size class(and it's classified as such by the EPA as well).

        The Volt and Leaf are not really hybrids either(the Leaf being a full-on EV and the Volt an ER-EV) so neither would fit into the hybrid class in my opinion, especially not the Leaf. It doesn't have to do with the hatchback part of it really, it's more about whether the vehicle is a hybrid or not and whether or not it's in the same class. Both the Golf and Jetta are considered compacts even though one is a hatchback for instance.

        In other words, I don't see anything wrong with VW's description of "Best in Class", it's pretty accurate.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Can't you just lough about this? Yeah, "long time strategy". I can just see how this long time strategy works: "We wait until the competition in electric cars is so firce that there is no other way than getting out of bed with the oil industry and build an EV - hopefully the oil lobby is so strong that this will take many, many more long years. The plans for the EVs are ready in our drawers - we just need to get our ICE cars make us more money."
      They all open their mouth and lie. Stuff you! I hope Nissan will be so successful with their Leaf that the others just feel the pain. Oh, well then they just go and ask the Gorvenment
      for more money. I am so over it.
      • 4 Years Ago
      So... a 2012 launch date.
      Meaning, a 2013 model I take it.

      This sounds great if they were launching it this year.
      Two years down the road might be a different ballpark.
      Things are moving along.
      • 4 Years Ago
      >>VW as a brand takes the electrification of the automobile very seriously, and we have a longtime strategy for growing that business. The Jetta hybrid is our first entry in that strategy.
        • 4 Years Ago
        >>.Oh, well then they just go and ask the Gorvenment
        for more money.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Will there be a TDI hybrid version? That would be an amazing car.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @skierpage

        My 2010 Golf TDI wagon 6 speed manual can easily achieve 42-50 mpg (US gallon) in mix driving condition. The best tank I've achieved was a 1150km trip on 50 liters of diesel from Calgary to Vancouver in middle of winter with winter diesel driving throught the Rockies. What else could you complain about a car that has tons of room, excellent handling, good towing capacity, enough engine power to have fun when needed, emission cleaner than most cars on the street, government tax credit and real life FE almost as good as a hybrid? Diesel isn't going to go away and if VW hybrid is any good, I might well buy another VW or Audi hybrid product in the future. I do hope they will keep their hybrid car fun to drive, don't want a VW toyota.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @skierpage: My TDI Golf gets about the same mileage as my Prius did, the way I drive, plus the Golf is running recycled frying oil biodiesel, so it has the environmental benifits of (a) onecycling a product that would otherwise be discarded and (b) being carbon neutral or near carbon neutral. Considering the environmental costs of mining lithium and drilling for oil, products the bio Golf needs significantly less of, I think the more environmental choice is very clear, even if it gets ever-so-slightly worse mileage. That's why I sold the Prius and bought the '06 Golf in the first place.

        Of course, the '08+ TDIs don't play well with B100 due to stricter emissions, and B20 (the highest blend that actually works in these vehicles) is pure half-assery. If the endgoal is environmental stewardship or even just feeling better about ourselves, I vote we all buy used TDIs and find our nearest biodiesel suppliers.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @ Snowdog,

        Toyota's Atkinson engine is MORE efficient than diesels? Would you please share the data you based that conclusion on?

        The only data I've seen still has the 1.8L Prius engine at least 10% less efficient than the 2009 2.0 TDI...

        http://priuschat.com/forums/members/ken1784-albums-2010-prius-picture1281-bsfc.jpg (1.8L Prius engine bsfc)

        http://ecomodder.com/wiki/index.php/Image:Vw_09_jetta_tdi_2.0l_bsfc.JPG (2.0 CR TDI bsfc)

        As far as diesel hybrid is concerned, why can't you apply the Atkinson cycle or Miller cycle to a diesel in a hybrid application? Just hold the intake valves open a little longer.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @d-man.

        The old smoke belching diesel was close to the old Prius in fuel econ.

        The new clean diesel is a ways behind the new Prius in any driving cycle.

        @skierpage
        Toyotas Atkinson engine is the real star here. It is more efficient than diesels. This is why a Prius wouldn't benefit from a diesel hybrid.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Depends on how VW lashes the engine and motor(s) together. Toyota HSD doesn't seem to benefit from diesel, Atkinson cycle does just fine.

        What will all the VW fanbois do now that their love object is embracing electrification and hybrid tech? I'm so tired of "The TDi gets the same mpg as those stupid hybrid clown cars" posts, as if 30 city/42 highway is the same as 41/36 (Fusion hybrid) or 51/48 (Prius).
        • 4 Years Ago
        Diesel-hybrid wagon. I'm all in.
      danwat1234
      • 2 Years Ago
      VW is trying to beat the Civic Hybrid? Well the 2012 model is 44 combined.. and Honda is revamping their Hybrid and the rest of the Civic with Direct Injection and Atkinson valve behavior! Somehow I think VW will be a bit suprised to see what Honda comes up with for 2013 or 2014. One way to compete against Honda is to use the Polo Bluemotion TDI engine from Europe. Don't use a 1.4 liter OTTO cycle gas engine! I don't think they are even using an Atkinson cycle OTTO. VW is not very good with gas engines, take the whopping 31MPG hwy new Beetle for example. Come on now! It's real easy. Put a 1.2 liter turbodiesel like you have in the European Polo and mate it to a strong hybrid drivetrain. Bam. Now you have more MPG than any Prius and decent acceleration due to the power of the electric motor. 55-60MPG HWY is within reach. I know VW can make that 1.2L Diesel pass emissions in the USA so make it happen and beat the competition!
      • 4 Years Ago
      I have a 2008 Civic Hybrid and a 2010 Jetta TDI manual trans. For about the same price the VW is a much better car. By comparison the Civic is a misery in the comfort/performance departments. The Civic gets me 40/48 and I have to drive really carefully. The Jetta is 36/57 driving more aggressively. Carefully driven the Jetta can do 62 mpg on the Hwy.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I've owned a 2001 VW Jetta TDI, and now a 2004 Toyota Prius.

        I have to tell you that the Jetta was a lot more fun to drive, but the Prius is a better car. The Jetta had a series of serious transmission problems that kept it off the road for about half the time that I owned it. The Prius has has a stellar repair-record -- mostly just scheduled maintenance. Also, the Jetta was a sedan, the the Prius is a hatchback -- so the Prius can haul a much wider variety of cargo.

        The Sportwagen looks like it would have the cargo capacity that I've come to expect from a small cars, except that the maintenance records of Volkswagens is enough to scare me off. Also, most f my driving is city driving these days, and the Prius's driving feels more natural for that -- the Jetta wanted to canter down the highway (which was what I bought it for).

        So, I'll stick with my Prius, thankyoverymuch.
        • 4 Years Ago
        With a manual VW TDI, you, the driver, is the computer, you decide how you want to drive your car and what kind of mileage can be achieved.

        There're just too much automation these days, people are getting dumb especially in the US. Ever compared a Nokia phone with an iPhone? Which phone is for the dumb people? Ever watch the movie Wall E? What happened in the end?
      • 4 Years Ago

      >>VW as a brand takes the electrification of the automobile very seriously, and we have a longtime strategy for growing that business. The Jetta hybrid is our first entry in that strategy.
    • Load More Comments