• Jun 1, 2010
A Lotus Exige-based mule has again been spotted out and about wearing tacked-on fender extensions to facilitate a significantly wider track than current versions. Sources suggest that this machine is drawing power from the same Toyota-sourced 3.5-liter V6 found in the new Evora due to the fact that this particular Exige had a very similar exhaust note to an Evora that was running nearby.
We're not so sure that stuffing the V6 into the Elise/Exige would be such a positive move given the extra bulk it would add. Newer direct inject injected and boosted inline fours can easily match the output of the V6 in a smaller package.

It's also worth noting that the reported sound of this mule isn't a guarantee of what's in the engine bay. After all, this is the company that invented active noise cancellation and is capable of producing almost any sound it wants from a car.

[Source: Autocar]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      TO MUCH WEIGHT
      • 4 Years Ago
      Sense, this does not make.

      On any level, marketing, slotting within the current lineup, power and weight, etc. I wish they'd parnered with VW, an Elise with the 2.0t or 2.5t (265 and 335 hp) wouldn't be bad at all... From a blown engine. A larger lumbering v6 just doesn't fit the character of the car.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Yeah, I think I'll toss this one in the "I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it" bin. I could understand it being used as a testbed of sorts, but even then it makes little sense.
      • 4 Years Ago
      The v6 might add power, but I'd say keep it small, and tight. Its pretty much what this care is known for. While others are heavy with huge engines, the Elise/Exige takes a different route. I say look into turbo charging or a kick ass four banger.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Since a new Elise/Exige is just around the corner, and that both cars are more competition oriented than the Evora, perhaps Lotus is working on a coked up limited edition as a final send-off for this chassis.
      • 4 Years Ago
      This car probably has nothing to do with a new engine in the Elise/Exige. It's probably either an engine test mule for the Evora S, the next scheduled car from Lotus which will supposedly have a supercharger tacked on to the Toyota V6, or a chassis test mule for the next series of Elise/Exige. Supposedly, the next Elise/Exige will move to a similar chassis as the Evora (which is a modified version of the existing Elise/Exige chassis). They may just be testing a Evora chassis modified to Elise/Exige size without taking the time to re-engineer it to bolt in the 2zz.

      BTW, those who think the Elise/Exige is lacking in power and needs 300 hp, have probably never been in one. Looking at hp figures alone will lead you to the wrong conclusion. The '07 Exige S with 220 hp is already stupid fast. At it's current build of 260 hp, the car is quicker than most production cars (at least until drag and physics takes over).
        • 4 Years Ago
        I just took a real look at the photo. That's not even a current Exige body. It's a 2006 body. I know the car is a test mule, but why would they test a new engine in a body that has different aerodynamic and cooling properties? I'm still thinking chassis test mule.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I agree.


        The Toyota V6 would do this car wonders....plus the Toyota engine has its after market covered with superchargers etc.
      • 4 Years Ago
      A V6 in an Elise/Exige? There's no need for it.

      My best friend had an '05 with some bolt ons and that thing was stupid fast. No need for more cylinders.
      If they want a potent motor in that car and keep the weight down, they should try Honda's K24 off of the Type R. If you want something with a little bit more power but want to maintain the "all-motor feel" & response then I'd recommend the motor that's in my Evo X.
      The Mitsubishi 4B11 would be a nice turbocharged engine with no turbo lag for this car.

      Like I said, no need for a 6.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Honda doesn't have a K24 Type R.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I had similar moss pm my old Matrix.( It has the same motor). It was nice, so I could only imagine it in a smaller package.

        And I'm guessing that Lotus has an agreement with Toyota, because there is no replacement for the 2ZZ that the elise utilizes, and Lotus isn't about to re-engineer an engine to put in a low volume car.
        • 4 Years Ago
        can't use Honda's engine due to emissions.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I like the idea of a turbo but the VW group makes the best turbo 4's on the market. More efficient too.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Exaust, CAI, & I think a cam switch.
        • 4 Years Ago
        And why would Lotus put the same V6 in the Elise? Wouldn't that totally ape the sales of the Exige and Evora? It doesn't really make sense. Unless they're thinking of going supercharged with the Evora and want to unify their engine choices to reduce cost, and Toyota wants to stop making the old Celica engine.

        If I want a luxury sports car, the Evora is too rough and not fast enough. For the same money, I would go to a Jaguar XK, for instance and get better all around.

        For a stupid fast little two-door, The Elise is great, especially a used one with a K24A2 dropped into the engine bay with the RSX six-speed tranny, which can be done yourself in a weekend, it's basically a bolt-on, or bolt-in modification as long as you're okay wiring the ECU.

        I don't want a barge V6 that revs to maybe 6k RPMs in my Lotus, no matter which Lotus it is. If Lotus is wanting to move their entire line-up to a different engine platform, I say talk to Honda or Mazda, not moving down to a Toyota V6.

        The wider track sounds fun, though. Hopefully it doesn't destroy the turning radius.
        • 4 Years Ago
        John Graham,

        Right. Sorry. I meant the K20 from the Type R.
        • 4 Years Ago
        What Bolt-Ons?
        Carlos
        • 4 Years Ago
        @James

        The Elise and Evora are two completely different animals. Elise is a hard core track star and the Evora is a GT similar to an NSX. Maybe it would take a few sales from the Evora but that is doubtful.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I would like to see the Elise with the DSI turbo 4 from the mazdaspeed 3
      • 4 Years Ago
      I agree with folks that the Elise/Exige probably is better off with forced induction and/or direct injection than extra cylinders......

      .....but a silly idea just came in my head - how about that inline six cylinder from BMW? The one from the e46 M3.....or the current turbo'd ones.....heck, even the current NA 3.0 sounds good on a car this small.....
        • 4 Years Ago
        Yeah it would be great to see the BMW M54 engine in this but I think it would be bit of a squeeze trying to get it sideways in the back of the Lotus, it would need even bigger fenders.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Or throw in a 1.8L V6 from the Mazda MX-3 :D
      • 4 Years Ago
      But if you look at the photos, it doesn't actually have a wider track, just much wider fender flares. The tires themselves are still quite narrow and tucked well inside the width of the body. I say this is bogus and that we won't see a 6 in the Elise/Exige any time soon.
      • 4 Years Ago
      This could also be their 3 cylinder omnivor two stroke engine. Two stroke triples sound like a V6.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Why is everyone bashing the 2gr-fe? It makes 276hp revs to 7k elms and is just as reliable in the evora as in the camry. And to everyone that says drop in a k24, if lotus thought it was a good idea they wouldve done it by now.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @nightflight

        and how do you come to that conclusion that the k20 is better then the 2zz? Granted they both make the same horsepower per liter and both respond to modifications well I don't see your point.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @miketim1

        2gr-fe in the camry (and evora) lacks direct injection 0-60 5.7 seconds for camry
        2gr-fse in the is350 with direct injection between rated at 5.4 but seen as low as 4.7 bone stock.
        • 4 Years Ago
        There are better V6 options out there. Just about every manufacturer makes a better 6 cylinder in both sound and refinement. Personally I really wish that the Evora was equipped with Ford's Ecoboost V6 instead.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @ Night


        Who cares about Honda K series ? Small worthless engine. Just because it can rev high and make alot of noise doesn't mean a thing.



        The V6 Toyota plant is powerful and quick.....add that to a very small car you have a rocket.


        The V6 in the much heavier camry got it to 50 in 5.9 sec.....and the Camry is a much MUCH heavier car then this.


        Or are they talking about the IS350 engine ?
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