• May 22, 2010
Formula One impresario Bernie Eccelstone wants to bring his series back to the United States, but he's apparently not keen on returning to Indy, site of the U.S. Grand Prix from 2000-2007. Instead, he hopes to stage the race in a big media market like New York City. While the idea of an F1 street course in Manhattan has surfaced repeatedly over the years, anyone familiar with the city will tell you the concept is clearly idiotic.

In recent days, however, a new venue has jumped in as a possible host: the Monticello Motor Club. Monticello is a private motorsports country club located about 75 miles northwest of Manhattan. The track has a maximum length of 4.1 miles with 22 turns depending on the configuration, and would make a magnificent site for an F1 race. While there is an airport nearby, and the track itself is new, having opened in 2008, there are currently no spectator facilities. If Monticello gets the deal to host a Grand Prix, a lot of work would have to be done, meaning a race probably wouldn't happen until at least 2012 or maybe even 2013.

[Source: AutoWeek]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      So I lived here for 22 years of my life, and never knew this place existed. This place is practically in my backyard.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Bernie is such a Troll.

      Since when does every F1 race have to be this international galmour event? I predict it will be back to Indy or not in the US.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Laguna Seca would be amazing!!! I don't know if F1 cars could actually go through the corkscrew without damage to the underside of the car, but damn it would be cool!
      • 4 Years Ago
      The only place I'd want to see F1 other than at Indy is Road America. F1 through the kink would be amazing.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Road America would be ideal but two things prevent it form ever happening -

        1) The management will never pay Bernie his extortion level fees to host the race

        2) The F1 elitist would not wanna see the Wisconsin countryside no matter how close it was to Chicago (a few hours)

        This is because F1 is an elitist sport like Tennis, have you seen how much it cost to go to F1 race?

        If Kaz and his merry men can fashion a race track in NYC, then I'm sure Herman Tilke or Alan Wilson can come up with something that works. The problem is NYC is largely uninterested in such a thing.

        • 4 Years Ago
        I do, too! But I believe that Road America didn't want to pay for the millions of dollars needed to upgrade the track a decade ago to FIA specs...and Bernie "specs".
      • 4 Years Ago
      I thought Bernie just went to the highest bidder.
      I always thought it was weird that one guy controlled everything.

      I liked Indy, I kinda miss it now. The awesome scenery, the long straight, the banked turns was unique for todays Formula One. Almost no other track like it. (maybe Monza)

      Did Tony end up making a profit after investing millions on the new garages, in-field park of the track ,etc?

      Using a historical track like Indy made Formula One more special in my book, wouldnt mind of it went back there.

      For geographical reasons, I would love a race in the West Coast.
      90 degree turns need not apply.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Is there a particular reason F1 doesn't go to Watkins Glen? It can handle all the NASCAR fan traffic; and has history yet it never comes up as a US F1 option.

      Does Bernie hate the owners of that track too?
        • 4 Years Ago
        NASCAR owns Watkins Glenn.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Just consider the calendar. Where are you going to fit this race into the schedule? Do you ditch Turkey ( notoriously bad attendance at a decent Tilke track with a 4 apex turn? )

      Do you ditch Bahrain? Do you get rid of the Spanish Street race ( Valencia )?
      Do you get rid of Singapore?

      Does Korea make it for this year? Moscow in 2013? Rome in 2012? By what year does the USGP come back?

      Also consider travel to/from Brazil and to/from Canada. How do you squeeze this race into the summer, between the Americas races, and still allow for the European holiday ( 4 weeks mid summer )?

      Don't forget, this is a European work calendar series. It's a world participated sport, but it's their based around THEIR holidays, not ours. I will attend the USGP. I can't wait to see it. But there's more than just track layout and expandability that factors into the answer.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Only one place in all of the US that is suitable for F1 and that would be in California. Biggest media market, and far more car/motorsports crazy than anywhere on the east coast...

      • 4 Years Ago
      Why not VIR or Laguna Seca?
        • 4 Years Ago
        VIR never, see Road America, its not near anything "Prominent" and F1 drivers would scream if they had to race around a TREE without any sort of barrier between them and the TREE.

        Unless you want that track which is nice to be F'ed up just for Bernie's F1 Circus, just say NO.

        Lagnua Seca produced an excellent ALMS race yesterday and years ago I believe the management was interested in hosting a US GP, but as I said Bernie's Fees are ridiculous so they said no thank you. They courted Moto GP instead and got it.

        There's nothing wrong with Laguna Seca overall one of the best tracks in America, but unless F1 becomes humble, I doubt it will ever happen.

        There were many empty seats at the NASCAR All Star Race last night. All this arrogance over the last 10 years or so is coming to ahead.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Not sure the south is a good choice. No one down there is gonna want to watch a car make a right turn. And I sure as heck don't want it to return to indy, what a boring track.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Indy's not that bad, it's just the city itself doesn't scream "international" (on a side note, you should see the women who show up for MotoGP - hot, hot, hot!). Besides, where else in the world can an F1 car run flatout for damn near a mile?

        But for now, Indy is dead in Bernie's eyes so let's talk about the possible future with Monticello. I don't think the Monticello guys fully comprehend the financial output they would have to come up with to stage a proper F1 race, especially over 10 years. It really wouldn't make any financial sense to do this unless they can secure at least 4 other racing series to race their during a season (ALMS, AMA, SBK, MotoGP, GrandAm). NASCAR flatout ISN'T an option-- they already have hissy fits racing 2 road courses a year, including Watkins Glen. Indy Car doesn't draw enough and are still stuck in the '90's with their tech.

        If they go ahead with their plans, they would be better off finding a staging parking lot away from the track (hopefully a town with proper hotel accommodations -- and after Google mapping it, ain't happening -- can you say Poughkeepsie, NY. and Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, PA.?) and bus fans in instead of building parking facilities. Once the spectators are there, they are force to buy the merchandise on hand. Yes, it sucks for the consumers but how do you expect the facility itself to make any money after what Bernie will surely take off the top for his own pockets? Any structures built should temporary and portable, similar in style to the mini-centers that the top F1 teams use on race weekends like McLaren and Ferrari.

        So in a nutshell, of course Bernie is gamed for this because he will get paid regardless.


        My personal dream: Street race, downtown Chicago through Grant Park, the museum complex, and Lake Shore Drive (LSD, giggity!). Hell I would pay to see Mayor Daley and Bernie try to negotiate this while stealing each others money (allegedly, of course).
        • 4 Years Ago
        Dang screwed up, meant that to be a reply to paul34.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Having spent time there ,Monticello is an amazing facility. The big thing with monticello is that NY state is willing to invest to make the track better and upgrade the facilities because the race would do wonders to that areas pooooorrrr economy. Also, the drive from NYC is truly only 90 minutes and really easy. Not to mention MMC has over 250 more acres to build on.
        • 4 Years Ago
        "Not to mention MMC has over 250 more acres to build on"

        I am sure the environmentalists will be happy to hear that............
        • 4 Years Ago
        IIRC correctly, the owners of Monticello made some sort of commitment to the community not to have events that would draw large crowds. Plus there is probably some noise ordinance that would force F1 to run mufflers.
      • 4 Years Ago
      What about NJ Motorsports park? They seem to want to host other big name race series (although F1 is a whole step or two above NASCAR ARCA and Nationwide series).
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